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just what I was worrying about . he would say I am leaving to persue social games on facebook or iphone games.
they are alright but alot of stuff I want to play in the future won't work on those platforms nad there is alot of social games that I just don't like (ie mafia wars or something like that)
they are alright but alot of stuff I want to play in the future won't work on those platforms nad there is alot of social games that I just don't like (ie mafia wars or something like that)
Executive producer? Meaning he's basically a manager? Doesn't sound like a big deal, then. Most executive producers are have little to do with the creative or technical side of things, and can be replaced without much impact, especially when a project is almost complete. Until I find out he was more important than that, I'm not going to worry much.
"Yoshifusa Hayama is leaving to make Facebook games"
"is leaving to make Facebook games"
"Facebook games"
I shed a tear.
"is leaving to make Facebook games"
"Facebook games"
I shed a tear.
great thread. Gotta agree with WhiteZOmbie here. As the medium grows in popularity it splits off into different branches.
Over time I actually think this gives creative room to developers that want to make what they want vs. develops in it for the money.
I dont think we are there yet and i agree that this might have to do with what OneRed was talking about with the Publisher's "AAA title" mentality/business model.
Over time I actually think this gives creative room to developers that want to make what they want vs. develops in it for the money.
I dont think we are there yet and i agree that this might have to do with what OneRed was talking about with the Publisher's "AAA title" mentality/business model.
Well all my respect for Dale as a gamer justwent out the window. The casual market of phones, tablets, and facebook can go eat a dick. They should be treated as a different industry the way film and tv are. Why? Because you won't find a game on your phone with AAA quality. No, not even Infinity Blade. I'm not talking graphics either. The casual market is just that, and I respect it but have zero interest. I hate the slide towards shit like facebook integration in console titles. Does anybody want to update people on that crap? Why does my 360 have twitter on it? Seems like the least likely place for me to check it.
I had hoped it would die on the vine like WebTV but if it's going to stay, keep the crossover shit down and the influence a one way street. I already have to put up with shoe horned multiplayer and simplistic controls.
I had hoped it would die on the vine like WebTV but if it's going to stay, keep the crossover shit down and the influence a one way street. I already have to put up with shoe horned multiplayer and simplistic controls.
@White Zombie
It not about popularity. Its about quality of product beginning to suffer (seemingly) in direct proportion to audience size. Happens in every format. Personally, I am of the opinion that "pop" music is complete and utter mindless garbage, big budget action films (the new mission impossible?) are a blight on american cinema, and I haven't seen but a handful of games in that last couple of years that really made me want to play them. At least in comparison to 10 years ago. "Mainstream Hater" is upset at the failing integrity that used to be much more prevalent in his beloved hobby.
It not about popularity. Its about quality of product beginning to suffer (seemingly) in direct proportion to audience size. Happens in every format. Personally, I am of the opinion that "pop" music is complete and utter mindless garbage, big budget action films (the new mission impossible?) are a blight on american cinema, and I haven't seen but a handful of games in that last couple of years that really made me want to play them. At least in comparison to 10 years ago. "Mainstream Hater" is upset at the failing integrity that used to be much more prevalent in his beloved hobby.
@Mainstream Haters - I think a lot of you really aren't old enought to remember pre-western- NES, when games weren't mainstream (except for the 2 or 3 fad years the Atari 2600, Speak n Spells and Simon machines were popular with the kiddies)
No, I'm talking the early Commodore 64 era, where us 8 year olds would pore over the magazines, trying to find the one with the best tape/demo. And if there were no tapes/demos on offer, you'd buy the mag with the best looking BASIC game (hard to tell, since there were usually no screenshots and "imaginative" artwork) and go home and type that shit out by hand, debugging for syntax errors. Because, well , there was nothing else to do! Where a piece of shit game with a flashy painted cover could become a hit, because, before the internet, before "review copies" (of all but the most hyped games, in wich case the review was most likely bullshit advertorial) - the best you could expect is a review in a magazine a month after you saw that shit game you shouldn't have bought if you kne how bad it was.
Really, once the NES came out, and we had things like "The Wizard" and "Nintendo Power" (Commodore shoulda made their own magazine too!), and a slow escalation of genres becoming more diverse and finding larger audiences as they grew. Now I'm sure all you teens and twenty somethings look back to the era before you were born and go "wow that shit was cool, that was edgy" like you may go watch Beverley Hills Cop, but trust me, most of it was fluro derivative crap. Sure, there were hundreds of great games, but thousands, THOUSANDS of shit ones. With hindsight, when you get the "greatest 50 games of the 80's list" to look over, it's easy to imagine it was all roses, without even having to know about the shit surrounding those roses. And really - why should you? But to paint a picture of an uber cool high quality "gaming underground" era (whether it's the 70's/80's 90's or 00's you're referring to) when it never really existed - while a great fantasy to have, and to enjoy - is not justification for your "game/s I don't like is popular therefore the industry has gone to shit, let me beat you over the head with it" argument.
This whole gaming has gone too mainstream stuff is among the biggest pile of shit I have ever heard. So you don't like COD - boo fucking hoo - there's more quality indie games, more genres that FPS,wide access to nearly 40 years worth of games - generally just more fucking quality than at any previous stage in gaming in the last 28 years. And you want to cry because Joe Sixpack likes a game you don't.
If that's your attitude - just fucking give up on gaming. Now.
No, I'm talking the early Commodore 64 era, where us 8 year olds would pore over the magazines, trying to find the one with the best tape/demo. And if there were no tapes/demos on offer, you'd buy the mag with the best looking BASIC game (hard to tell, since there were usually no screenshots and "imaginative" artwork) and go home and type that shit out by hand, debugging for syntax errors. Because, well , there was nothing else to do! Where a piece of shit game with a flashy painted cover could become a hit, because, before the internet, before "review copies" (of all but the most hyped games, in wich case the review was most likely bullshit advertorial) - the best you could expect is a review in a magazine a month after you saw that shit game you shouldn't have bought if you kne how bad it was.
Really, once the NES came out, and we had things like "The Wizard" and "Nintendo Power" (Commodore shoulda made their own magazine too!), and a slow escalation of genres becoming more diverse and finding larger audiences as they grew. Now I'm sure all you teens and twenty somethings look back to the era before you were born and go "wow that shit was cool, that was edgy" like you may go watch Beverley Hills Cop, but trust me, most of it was fluro derivative crap. Sure, there were hundreds of great games, but thousands, THOUSANDS of shit ones. With hindsight, when you get the "greatest 50 games of the 80's list" to look over, it's easy to imagine it was all roses, without even having to know about the shit surrounding those roses. And really - why should you? But to paint a picture of an uber cool high quality "gaming underground" era (whether it's the 70's/80's 90's or 00's you're referring to) when it never really existed - while a great fantasy to have, and to enjoy - is not justification for your "game/s I don't like is popular therefore the industry has gone to shit, let me beat you over the head with it" argument.
This whole gaming has gone too mainstream stuff is among the biggest pile of shit I have ever heard. So you don't like COD - boo fucking hoo - there's more quality indie games, more genres that FPS,wide access to nearly 40 years worth of games - generally just more fucking quality than at any previous stage in gaming in the last 28 years. And you want to cry because Joe Sixpack likes a game you don't.
If that's your attitude - just fucking give up on gaming. Now.
The amount of closed-mindedness this community has honestly baffles me at times.
Mobile/social gaming = gaming. Deal with it.
Mobile/social gaming = gaming. Deal with it.
What IS going on there?? Why does it sound like everyone's leaving when the game is like 95% done? Should I be worried for the game? Or am I misunderstanding? I can understand if they want to work on smaller projects after this but why are we hearing now that people are leaving in the last stretch of the game's development? This is my most anticipated game. This is disconcerting.
Also what's going on in this community? Was Jimmyx banned? Is Jimboxxx his second account? Or is he a parody of Jimmyx like Jammyx? :p
Also what's going on in this community? Was Jimmyx banned? Is Jimboxxx his second account? Or is he a parody of Jimmyx like Jammyx? :p
@Football Religion
I'll lay money on it that I was gaming before you were even a twinkle in your old man's eye. I hate whiny fuckers like you; gamers with a ridiculous sense of entitlement like you; gamers who get their arses kicked online and then bitch about bro-gamers and such.
Why don't *you* fuck off, and take up a different hobby whereby you can make the rules like, I don't know, painting?
I'll lay money on it that I was gaming before you were even a twinkle in your old man's eye. I hate whiny fuckers like you; gamers with a ridiculous sense of entitlement like you; gamers who get their arses kicked online and then bitch about bro-gamers and such.
Why don't *you* fuck off, and take up a different hobby whereby you can make the rules like, I don't know, painting?
It's a step down in creative freedom I'm sure, but I guarantee it's a step up in pay. Middle-aged women with nothing better to do are willing and ready to part with their husband's cash, and social gaming is right there waiting for it.
Remember when video games were this thing that was fun and we didn't worry about silly, pointless shit cause we were having a blast?
@JimmyDanger
Absolutely well said. It is an incredible time for videogames. There is quality, there is diversity, and games aren't even that expensive, relatively speaking, if you're willing to wait a couple of months. I've said it over and over, but if you do not like a particular videogame, then don't play it. There is a greater selection now than ever before, so why would anyone stress about a title or a genre they do not enjoy when they can simply pick up one they will enjoy.
I don't care for military shooters, but it doesn't bother me if someone else does. I don't care for social games, but it does not bother me if someone else does. I've been in gaming since I first wiggled that Combat cartridge into our family's Atari 2600, and I have no problem where gaming is right now.
Absolutely well said. It is an incredible time for videogames. There is quality, there is diversity, and games aren't even that expensive, relatively speaking, if you're willing to wait a couple of months. I've said it over and over, but if you do not like a particular videogame, then don't play it. There is a greater selection now than ever before, so why would anyone stress about a title or a genre they do not enjoy when they can simply pick up one they will enjoy.
I don't care for military shooters, but it doesn't bother me if someone else does. I don't care for social games, but it does not bother me if someone else does. I've been in gaming since I first wiggled that Combat cartridge into our family's Atari 2600, and I have no problem where gaming is right now.
Wow, this is scaring the shit out of me. We need some hardcore investigation into this game and it's release date.
@ Vanor
Dude, I've played the SHIT out of SotC. After I beat the original 5 times and completed all the time challenges for each difficulty setting, I bought the HD version and did it again.
@ Vanor
Dude, I've played the SHIT out of SotC. After I beat the original 5 times and completed all the time challenges for each difficulty setting, I bought the HD version and did it again.
I smell a 10 year project, followed up with a shelfing. 2-3 years later we'll have some indy company pick up the rights and finally release it.
Someone needs to whack them all on the heads to knock some sense back into them. Get this done and get it out!
Someone needs to whack them all on the heads to knock some sense back into them. Get this done and get it out!
Does anyone here actually know what an "executive producer" does? They're practically the lawyers of the company, not exactly a major creative contributor.
god damn Vanor, Red One, JimmyDanger
someone ANYONE give these guys a fucking trophy
very well said especially JimmyDangers part where we have a selection of games up to 40 years!!
seriously you can game on portables?? choices PSP, DS, 3DS, Vita, GBA, GBC, PC gaming, console gaming.
this is why i love gaming. sooo many to choose from it's hard not to play any game on any system.
someone ANYONE give these guys a fucking trophy
very well said especially JimmyDangers part where we have a selection of games up to 40 years!!
seriously you can game on portables?? choices PSP, DS, 3DS, Vita, GBA, GBC, PC gaming, console gaming.
this is why i love gaming. sooo many to choose from it's hard not to play any game on any system.
Today's games are going downhill fast. Nothing wrong trying to catch more people, but too many companies try to sell themselves out. They dilute their game until it's so general it loses all of its specialization. When multiple companies do this, what sets them apart? If you like Farmville or Angry Birds, fine. You enjoy what you like. My problem is when companies try their hardest to appeal to people like you, people who wouldn't have an interest in such a game anyways. You pick it up, play it for a month and then it is forgotten about. Games like Daggerfall, 007 Goldeneye, Mario and Final Fantasy are still talked about because they were great games. Great games that stay true to what they are last forever. Watered down games don't and are forgotten when the new one comes out.
I can just about tolerate the excruciatingly slow development time, the trickle of obscure information that serves only to further intrigue and confuse and the fact that I know less about this game now than I thought I did when it was first announced. I cannot handle the possibility that the game could be facing major setbacks, or even postponement. This is of course a petty concern, based on nothing more than the creeping hunch that this game just isn´t going to happen.
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