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Proving that most corporate executives know jacksh*t about anything, Tim Schafer has revealed that when he started pitching Brütal Legend many years ago, the bigwigs in charge wanted the game to be based upon country or hip-hop music. According to the game creator, had Guitar Hero not happened, we may have been talking about Def Jam Legend right now.

"When we were first pitching Brütal Legend," explains Schafer, "it was before the first Guitar Hero game was announced and we were like, 'There’s this game in a heavy metal world,' [and they said], 'We like the game, but could we change it to be a hip-hop game, or maybe country music?'

"There’s nothing against that music, but it doesn’t have a lore of heavy metal, in terms of a certain kind of mythology that leads to epic, medieval battles. After Guitar Hero came out and [Black Sabbath's] Iron Man was one of the first songs on it, it seemed to expose a whole new generation to that kind of music.

"So by the time we were pitching the game for a second time there was a lot more interest in it being exactly what it is, which is a brutal heavy metal action-adventure."

I love how executives always seem to think hip-hop is the answer to everything. Just goes to show you how hard it is for a unique and original idea to get anywhere in a world where people want to put 50 Cent into everything and make all forms of entertainment look and sound exactly the same.








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Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:24
Diverse
And we could have had Busta Rhymes voice Eddie Riggs. What a waste.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:29
PappaDukes
Well I think that Brutal Legend 2 could up well with say, Flavor Flav voicing the character. I could actually see a whole series of Brutal Legend spin-offs that incorporated different genres of music. Hell, if Activision can milk the fuck out of guitar hero, then why not other IPs?
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:30
wanderingpixel
What, no Pop music?
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:31
Naim Master
We all have to agree that Flavor Flav as Eddie Riggs would be awesome !

@papdukkes
I hate you , I click on comment before your comment showed up and now you also say Flavor Flav ...
Rucksack's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:33
Rucksack
Jim, you can't deny that a Wu-Tang Clan adventure-game with samurais and ninjas wouldn't have been equally sick.

Hopefully, everyone will forget that Shaolin Style ever happened.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:38
PappaDukes
@Naim Master

I WIN! But at such a terrible cost... :-(
JRisJunior's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:40
JRisJunior
if brutal legend was about hip-hop, i might've ripped my ears off of my head.

just because i could.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:51
sickNasty
Well they want to make money. That's what businesses do. It's in their interests to create a game that sells a lot so that they make a lot of money.

Naturally it's in Schafer's interests to create the game he wants to create. Props to him for sticking to his guns on this, but I don't really think these are dumb executives who are out to make everything the same.

The fact is, heavy metal was not all that popular in the new millenium before the Guitar Hero games took off.

So in reality, the fact that this game is being made now, in an age of renewed interest in heavy metal brought about by Guitar Hero, it could be argued that this game fits neatly into a sea of sameness that is today's entertainment. A fantasy-themed hip hop adventure could be viewed as the more unique and cutting edge idea.
Agent Orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 14:57
Agent Orange
Hoorah! More pics from Jim's folder of people he idolizes! /jk

This is what happens when you put 60 year old businessmen in charge of a company manufacturing products for people half their age.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 15:06
RAB
COUNTRY MUSIC?
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WTIH THOSE FUCKING IDIOTS

BUGHHHHH IM GONNA BE SICK TO MY STOMACH
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 15:06
Blasto
FUCK NOOOOO!!! ...To elaborate;you guys have your Fiddy Cent game,let us have a god damn metal game! it's BRUTAL Legend,not DOPE Legend. brutal is a fucking metal term,god damn it. and metal has always had a shit ton of fans,there just not as popular with the impressionable, er, "shorties" as the hippity hop and they don't get played on the M TEE-VEE. METAL!!!
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 15:30
Los255
That guy is SO BOSS.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 15:40
EternalDeathSlayer
Jim: They would be stupid to make it a hip-hop game now, but 5 or 6 years ago Hip Hop was easily the most popular genre around. I know it would have been a shit game, but you can't say the executives were stupid for not wanting to OK a game based on a genre of music that wasn't very popular at the time.

Remember the first 50 Cent game, the awful one that sold millions of copies?

Now can you really blame execs who want to make a dollar for wanting a hip hop game a couple years back?

On a side note though, thank God it never happened. Can't wait to play Brutal Legend in all it's metal glory.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 15:51
Darren Nakamura
I would hate to be an executive, because I'd know that my job is to stifle creativity in order to make more money. But then, I do like piles of money and I wouldn't mind sleeping on one.
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 15:57
The Amazing Shenazin
"After Guitar Hero came out and [Black Sabbath's] Iron Man was one of the first songs on it, it seemed to expose a whole new generation to that kind of music."

wow, that is really fucking sad
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 16:02
Syn
That's funny. There aren't hardly any metal tracks on any of the Guitar Hero games that aren't almost 30 years old. But people get whiny when I suggest something a little more recent.

Hip-hop Legend...that's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all day.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 16:23
whormongr
god- hip hop legend would be stupid as shit... so would country legend though it would at least be funny stupid
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 16:54
Black Nexus
Brutal Legend... A Spike Lee joint.



Yeah I'm happy they went rock because I'm doing the other possibilities in my head, and I'm not enjoying what I'm hearing.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 17:07
Daxelman
I think the next music themed game should be done by the RZA, or fuck it, all of the Wu-Tang Clan.

It'd be like Afro Samurai, only the game would tons better.

I could drool over the thought over a samurai/rap experience that's like Samurai Champloo or Afro Samurai.

Drool, goddamnit...
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 17:12
gatorsax2010
The execs clearly didn't get what he was going for. Like he said, the game is based on the "lore" or heavy metal (Norse gods, ancient lands, and all that craziness). A hip-hop version of that is just another inner city GTA/Saint's Row game. And what "lore" does country have? A land where your wife leaves you and you shoot a man in Reno just to watch him die?
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 17:22
Johnny Justice
"Hip-hop Legend...that's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all day."

Um no one said it would have been called that, you just came up with it.

While I think the metal theme is the way to go, I think a hip hop fantasy adventure could work as well. If you're talking mainstream hip hop, forget it. However something in a similar vein to [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVht5GaRe6Q]Wave Twisters[/url] could work.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 17:27
Johnny Justice
Oops. Let me try that again: Wave Twisters

Also, country? WTF are they thinking?!
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 17:43
DaedHead8
Can anybody help me? I literally just laughed my ass off.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 19:02
Holyetheline
I can't wait for the day that an indie developer makes a game about an indie musician and calls it "Indie Legend"....
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 19:07
B-Radicate
Well, 50 Cent made a game. Hell, he made two. So... they got what they wanted.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 19:23
Chronic Logic
Put your cap on the right way, lose the bling, pull up your pants, wear a smaller shirt.
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 20:59
Gyrael
Jesus fucking shit. How do these "execs" get to be in their positions in the first place? What a pile of worthless.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 21:19
Daxelman
Nobody listened to the Wu-Tang Clan?

I'm sorry, but yall fucking suck.
bodybreak's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/06/2009 22:32
bodybreak
i love jack black, and heavy metal is my roots -- but i'm still not going to spend $60 on this game.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/07/2009 01:09
WarZombie
@ bodybreak

I can guarantee that this game ill be one of the best this year. Guarantee it. If you don't pick it up, you'll be missing out.

And really, you can't blame execs for wanting to make money. They saw what was hot at the moment, and wanted to capitalize on it. If they have to ignore creative ideas to get the job done, then that's what they'll do. Props to Tim Schafer for sticking it out and still making this game, even when other said it wouldn't work.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/07/2009 04:13
JustLikeBuck
Hip Hop = Bought by the Middle Classes to give the appearance they've suffered enough as the lower, and have had just as hard a life.

The execs go where the money is.

Not sure what the hell they were thinking Country... But a Brutal Legend featuring Willie Nelson would be sweet :D
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/07/2009 04:37
hjd uk
They tried to kill the Metal....
Rucksack's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/07/2009 05:55
Rucksack
@Justlikebuck

Or, it could be that you've built a up completely unrealistic stereotype around a genre of music and the individuals who choose to listen to it.

I love independent hip-hop, because it displays an intelligence and love of elocution that most other music is lacking. It also challenges racial and ethnic stereotypes.

Obviously, you're right though. Hip Hop is complete garbage, because your assumptions are obviously grounded in fact.
sega shaman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/13/2011 20:21
sega shaman
Of course it stayed metal, metal is to powerful for those weaker types. In a country game, you'd start of fine, but as you go on your wife leaves you, your dog dies, and your truck breaks. In a hip-hop game, it's just about...what, booty-buttcheeks? (yeah, Boondocks!)
Now METAL, it's just all-out, raw power. You're riding a chariot through a storm, summoning demons from the wind, all while gods of thunder are cracking the earth as you charge into battle. It's the Charlie Sheen of music, just winning all the time.
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