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Nice, PSN potential. The comments during GDC kind of made me hypothetically hang my head down and kind of give an "Awe, really? Shucks." with some kind of *harumph* thrown in there.
This is good. Potential is good.
This is good. Potential is good.
There are WiiWare fans?
I can understand being a fan of the Wii for Nintendo disc-based games, but surely no-one can be a fan of WiiWare. It would be like being a fan of an snorts fetus.
I can understand being a fan of the Wii for Nintendo disc-based games, but surely no-one can be a fan of WiiWare. It would be like being a fan of an snorts fetus.
I don't like it but it's true. I don't blame Fish at all. Nintendo really needs to step their game up. And the way they've been crapping on small developers would make it sound like they've got tons of studios lined up to make great games, but that obviously hasn't been the case. It's working for everyone except for Nintendo for a reason.
*an aborted fetus.
Can't believe I have a year of shitty Apple touchscreen left. Can't wait to get an Android with a real keyboard like a man.
Can't believe I have a year of shitty Apple touchscreen left. Can't wait to get an Android with a real keyboard like a man.
Nintendo wants nothing to do with anyway. He's a "garage developer" with no experience working with big corporations that stifle creativity. "No publisher? Fuck off." -Reggie
It'd be great if there was a Steam release. That's what I got Super Meat Boy and the Bit Trip games.
meh...no real news here. Wiiware is a decent service, but no where near the giant that is XBLA.
the 3DS has potential, but we'll see if Nintendo has put their big boy pants on in the the online market. As always, they have the chance...but I'm really not expecting much.
the 3DS has potential, but we'll see if Nintendo has put their big boy pants on in the the online market. As always, they have the chance...but I'm really not expecting much.
Geeze way to be an ass about the situation. He could at least ask Friendtendo if there'd be a demo possibility for his game first before slagging it off.
Well, judging from Team Meat or Introversion experience, PC version makes most sense, not xbla:)
But XBLA may give the game some promotion and necessary spotlight
But XBLA may give the game some promotion and necessary spotlight
I agree with him , the WiiWare system is complete and utter shit. As much as I've loved the Wii this generation, online isn't it's strong suit. It's capable of some great online experiences and downloadable games, but they're weighed down by annoying friend codes and bare bones options when it comes to WiiWare. Virtual Console's pretty good though.
WiiWare fans? There are only two types of people. Those who think WiiWare is a load a shit and refuse to use it and those who think WiiWare is a load of shit but use it begrudgingly.
Unfortunately, he's right: WiiWare sucks. I'm amazed that any developer has made money on that platform. But I really do hope that a Phil Fish 3DS game is in the cards, because both Fez and Super Hypercube look like they'd be pretty cool on that platform.
I wouldn't call WiiWare a decent service.
Almost no demos, and if you replace your hardware, it is a royal pain to transfer the games you've purchased (if you are able to at all). My Wii system seems like it's on its last leg, and I would love to replace it, but I am shackled to my old white Wii (with a failing graphics chip). With both PSN and Xbox LIVE, I can play my purchased content on any console I log into.
I am annoyed when my only choice for certain online content is the Wii (I'm looking at you Bit.Trip and Cave Story).
Almost no demos, and if you replace your hardware, it is a royal pain to transfer the games you've purchased (if you are able to at all). My Wii system seems like it's on its last leg, and I would love to replace it, but I am shackled to my old white Wii (with a failing graphics chip). With both PSN and Xbox LIVE, I can play my purchased content on any console I log into.
I am annoyed when my only choice for certain online content is the Wii (I'm looking at you Bit.Trip and Cave Story).
I agree how it is kinda gay that WiiWare did not see the kind of demos we saw in Gamecube and DS store kiosks. What gives?
I have at least 50 PSN and XBLA games (each), but maybe 5 WiiWare/VC games.
Not linking them to an account if my Wii gets stolen, or I want them on the Wii 2? No thanks.
Not linking them to an account if my Wii gets stolen, or I want them on the Wii 2? No thanks.
I know what he means, though. The thing I've always loved about XBLA is that every single game is required to have a trial version. Even indie games. You start playing it, get hooked, and can easily pay and continue the full game. I wish everyone would employ a similar system. It makes discovering new games extremely easy.
Also, I'm always reluctant to buy games for WiiWare because I can't try them first. I got BitTrip Beat because of the praise it was getting all over the internet, only to find that it wasn't the game for me (this was before there was a demo of it). Very relieved to find that they started demos in some capacity and purchased BitTrip Fate because of it.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that Fez WOULDN'T work in 3D? Wouldn't adding depth ruin the optical illusions the game is based upon?
Also, am I the only one who thinks that Fez WOULDN'T work in 3D? Wouldn't adding depth ruin the optical illusions the game is based upon?
Ah WiiWare does have demos now, so what is he talking about? I get a kick out of everyone saying that Nintendo doesn't like indie developers. Yeah they really hated 2D Boy making World of Goo for WiiWare and Nicalis remaking Pixels Cave Story for both WiiWare, and DSiWare. They never said anything about not wanting indie developers.
All they said is, that they don't want garage developers AKA hobbyist developers. Who don't have the business sense, to have thousand of dollars for dev kits and would have to pay hundreds, or even thousands of dollars more for a ESRB rating. There's a big difference in the two. Indie developers are small, but they are still doing a job, not a hobby!
All they said is, that they don't want garage developers AKA hobbyist developers. Who don't have the business sense, to have thousand of dollars for dev kits and would have to pay hundreds, or even thousands of dollars more for a ESRB rating. There's a big difference in the two. Indie developers are small, but they are still doing a job, not a hobby!
For the record, I think Nintendo's downloadable service is shit, too, but his logic really doesn't make all that much sense.
It truly is a shame how WiiWare has floundered due to Nintendo's short-sightedness and inability to imagine any worthwhile promotions. There is a lot of great content on the service that just sits there, ignored, since it's a chore to find anything worthwhile.
I sure hope their next console has an account-driven system so that I can buy stuff like You, Me & The Cubes, Space Invaders Get Even, Bit.Trip Runner and And Yet It Moves.
I sure hope their next console has an account-driven system so that I can buy stuff like You, Me & The Cubes, Space Invaders Get Even, Bit.Trip Runner and And Yet It Moves.
As a consumer I do not buy games by playing their demos and i sort of do find that his demands a bit irrational exepecially for the scale of audeince he is trying to match.
I mean DERP!!! yeah they are not going to give you everything on a silver saucer if you are a indie gamming company with little to no REP, that like going to hollywood and talking to Paramount distrubution and saying your inde movie trailer should go up on their main website eventhough you have made only one movie that did not go to any crazy good film festivals ( will quite litterally laugh their @$$E$ off and shut the door )
SO far I have look at their site and they have one finished prodject and while it looks ok, its sort of dumb to be asking so much with so little to represnet themseves sure nintendo may loose out on a great game but by all mean this is very pathetic statement by Mr.Fish
I mean DERP!!! yeah they are not going to give you everything on a silver saucer if you are a indie gamming company with little to no REP, that like going to hollywood and talking to Paramount distrubution and saying your inde movie trailer should go up on their main website eventhough you have made only one movie that did not go to any crazy good film festivals ( will quite litterally laugh their @$$E$ off and shut the door )
SO far I have look at their site and they have one finished prodject and while it looks ok, its sort of dumb to be asking so much with so little to represnet themseves sure nintendo may loose out on a great game but by all mean this is very pathetic statement by Mr.Fish
The big problem I have with Wiiware is with the limited system memory and having to manage data all the time. I've found the system itself as bad as most people make out. I've stopped using it because I'm tired of having to shift games around on the memory card.
@Cryotek
I understand your grevances, and while there seems to be no risk to giving full services to this game you have to understand that they have allowed there indie devloper to put this game on their service and that the only reason that this game is not comming to wiiware is that the devloper themselves will not accept that they do not get a feature that was not avalible untill recently and only for games that were currently on their service.
I understand your grevances, and while there seems to be no risk to giving full services to this game you have to understand that they have allowed there indie devloper to put this game on their service and that the only reason that this game is not comming to wiiware is that the devloper themselves will not accept that they do not get a feature that was not avalible untill recently and only for games that were currently on their service.
How about more releasing good games and less running your fucking mouth, bub?
That's not to say that WiiWare isn't where games go to die or that Fez won't be any good but when your game is repeatedly referred to as 'vaporware' it's probably best to be a bit humble. At least until you release the thing and it's actually good.
That's not to say that WiiWare isn't where games go to die or that Fez won't be any good but when your game is repeatedly referred to as 'vaporware' it's probably best to be a bit humble. At least until you release the thing and it's actually good.
doesn't a WiiWare game have to be 40mb or less? That's what I heard when Team Meat said the Super Meat boy won't be coming to WiiWare
Totally understandable. One of the things I like the most about the XBLA marketplace is that they let me play demos for all (most?) of the indie games. I wouldn't have been as rude as the developer when explaining the reason, but he seems passionate about his work, and that's something I have to respect.
I like this guy. Nintendo's been refusing to change with the times and, by comparison, has become more and more consumer-unfriendly. Developers don't seem to care for them either.
SuperHyperCube's interesting as a proof of concept. The anaglyphic 3D doesn't add much to the experience and it's a 2D/3D visualization fit the block in the hole game. Probably not worth the effort of installation and controls aren't PC-centric.
SuperHyperCube's interesting as a proof of concept. The anaglyphic 3D doesn't add much to the experience and it's a 2D/3D visualization fit the block in the hole game. Probably not worth the effort of installation and controls aren't PC-centric.
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