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How long until we get a few PS3 fanboys in here posing as "level-headed observers" and defending Sony because this man was laid-off? I can see everything he is saying with my own eyes and I'm not a Sony employee and never have been. I'm glad they make video games because they have a lot of talent under their umbrella and are always willing to take risks, but they're also really fucking stupid when it comes to competing with other hardware makers.
When I was in Middle School I would stay up late at night doing my homework but never turned it in for whatever stupid reason. It was A+ material but I was lazy and just left it at home.
That's how Sony is. I think they create really great work but they put no effort into it once it's released. They throw their kids to the wolves and hope it finds legs to stand on.
That's how Sony is. I think they create really great work but they put no effort into it once it's released. They throw their kids to the wolves and hope it finds legs to stand on.
I remember this guy. He won the first season of "The Tester".
Anyway, it seems that Sony is making more bad business decisions. They've been making some bad decisions since the beginning of this console generation, starting with the $600 PS3 price tag.
Anyway, it seems that Sony is making more bad business decisions. They've been making some bad decisions since the beginning of this console generation, starting with the $600 PS3 price tag.
His Vita comment was just flat out stupid. I've seen a few articles say this is damning, or sharp criticism, but I still don't see it.
Sony fires some PR guys, and he says they need more PR at the holiday. That's all he said.
Ooooo, so important. News at 11.
Sony fires some PR guys, and he says they need more PR at the holiday. That's all he said.
Ooooo, so important. News at 11.
Considering how absolutely awful much of Sony's marketing had been, maybe they're better off outsourcing this aspect anyways. It's just easier to make performance based contracts or to fire an ineffective contractor and various games/hardware can be outsourced to various marketing companies.
Oh, and they need to bring back Kevin Butler!
Oh, and they need to bring back Kevin Butler!
@EternalDeathSlayer "How long until we get a few PS3 fanboys in here posing as "level-headed observers" and defending Sony because this man was laid-off?"
That was about to be me, but then I saw that his points were actually proper criticism. Sony is its own worst enemy.
That was about to be me, but then I saw that his points were actually proper criticism. Sony is its own worst enemy.
do you gamers need PR people to sell you games? or do you already know what games you will be buying? why have such a large PR team when people can do more research on their own over the internet about games they already know about.
whats an ad on the side of a building going to sell? or ads all over youtube and tv? who are those ads geared towards? the non gamers? the people who wouldnt even know about those games unless they were bombarded with commercials anyway?
marketing is a true waste of money these days. everything is commercials these days. and i find myself ignoring them the more i see or hear them.
whats an ad on the side of a building going to sell? or ads all over youtube and tv? who are those ads geared towards? the non gamers? the people who wouldnt even know about those games unless they were bombarded with commercials anyway?
marketing is a true waste of money these days. everything is commercials these days. and i find myself ignoring them the more i see or hear them.
I have a Vita too, but I might as well not since I never touch it. I own one game for it so far (not counting PS1 and PSP games) and will be buying my second game two month from now (P4G).
This guy is just confirming from the inside what we've known instinctively for a while. It's baffling that such a big company can falter in so many different ways at once.
This guy is just confirming from the inside what we've known instinctively for a while. It's baffling that such a big company can falter in so many different ways at once.
I'm big Sony fanboy unfortunately and I agree with what some of this guy is saying. Bring some great games out on the Vita don't cross-play them though cause people will just buy on PS3 then.
@fetusmilk
You do know that there are tons of gamers who don't follow gaming news (let us call them, gamers lite), right? It is these people who probably make up the bulk of gaming purchases, in fact. I base this fact on pure guesswork.
You do know that there are tons of gamers who don't follow gaming news (let us call them, gamers lite), right? It is these people who probably make up the bulk of gaming purchases, in fact. I base this fact on pure guesswork.
PR Guy: Claims his layoff is the reason why the oh-so awaited Wonderbook is going to fail.
Guys is just mad he is no longer working for Sony.
Guys is just mad he is no longer working for Sony.
@islan... nope, the Kevin Butler campaign was done by an external advertising agency, not Sony's internal PR.
Well he is bitter but he's also quite right. What bugs me about this generation is that I used to love Playstation - it's not a hated brand like EA or Activision or Microsoft, but Sony are doing their best to make me despise them.
What's that? Another account of Sony's woes coming from the fact that they're all tangled up internally?
The kinds of things this guy is saying have been said for years about Sony. People know why Sony fell from grace, and it's sad that it seems like they're content to keep on business as usual. Too much compartmentalization, too many bosses, too much pride, too little common fucking sense.
Nobody wants to sacrifice their own piece for the greater pie. Promoting Lord Hirai was supposed to change that. Supposed to.
The kinds of things this guy is saying have been said for years about Sony. People know why Sony fell from grace, and it's sad that it seems like they're content to keep on business as usual. Too much compartmentalization, too many bosses, too much pride, too little common fucking sense.
Nobody wants to sacrifice their own piece for the greater pie. Promoting Lord Hirai was supposed to change that. Supposed to.
"Sony in general is serving too many masters. Each company should operate autonomously." This is the EXACT same thing critics of Microsoft have been saying about them for years so this "news" isn't really all that surprising.
Well, honestly some of the stuff he's saying is true.
But the fact that he's a recently unemployed Sony PR guy saying "Sony needs more PR" doesn't exactly do much to boost his credibility.
But the fact that he's a recently unemployed Sony PR guy saying "Sony needs more PR" doesn't exactly do much to boost his credibility.
Am I the only one who finds it pretty silly that we are inferring things about or judging Sony based on hiring and firing policies for PR personnel?
What is next after this? Are we going to be upset because SCE is notoriously low on post-it notes and find out that the TV division has been taking them all?
What is next after this? Are we going to be upset because SCE is notoriously low on post-it notes and find out that the TV division has been taking them all?
Like Playstation.
Hate Sony.
Pretty much where I stand PSP, PS3 and Vita have all had great potential, stifled by Sony. They all live in PS2's shadow, but at least PSP came closest to escaping it.
Hate Sony.
Pretty much where I stand PSP, PS3 and Vita have all had great potential, stifled by Sony. They all live in PS2's shadow, but at least PSP came closest to escaping it.
@kid gloves
Except anyone that knows anything about Sony as a company knows exactly what this guy is talking about. He's not dropping bombshells, here, he's saying exactly what has been said about Sony since their TV division stopped making money a decade ago.
How about we talk about how SCE wouldnt let Sony use the Playstation name on their line of phones, forcing them to call it the XPeria Play? Post it notes are funny, but are they as funny as Sony not letting Sony use the Playstation name?
Except anyone that knows anything about Sony as a company knows exactly what this guy is talking about. He's not dropping bombshells, here, he's saying exactly what has been said about Sony since their TV division stopped making money a decade ago.
How about we talk about how SCE wouldnt let Sony use the Playstation name on their line of phones, forcing them to call it the XPeria Play? Post it notes are funny, but are they as funny as Sony not letting Sony use the Playstation name?
Its interesting to see someone flat out say it at least, there are game companies out there that seemingly do the same thing with some of their titles, they release them at what seems like the worst possible time, like Rayman going up against MW3, that's just retarded.
yeah i have been seeing some stupid decisions by Sony Computer Entertainment as a whole.
hopefully they'll bounce off with Vita :P
hopefully they'll bounce off with Vita :P
If I was in charge of Sony, I wouldn't promote Wonderbook or Sports Champions 2 either. Because they're both shitty ideas.
Glad to see at least SOMEone at Sony is making good decisions.
Seriously, nobody was ever gonna care at all about Wonderbook.
Glad to see at least SOMEone at Sony is making good decisions.
Seriously, nobody was ever gonna care at all about Wonderbook.
The PR department did an insanely bad job, is it any real surprise that they got downsized?
I wonder if Phoenix Wright is handling his severance case.
I wonder if Phoenix Wright is handling his severance case.
If anything, I believe Sony's branches are too autonomous.
What is the point of Sony Pictures licencing game rights to Microsoft? Or having a new camera if it took them years to interact with it? What is it with Playstation acting like the XPeria doesn't exists? Sony Music has a huge library of licensed music at their disposal, why didn't they ever thought about making them PS3 exclusives for Rock Band and Guitar Hero?
Does it makes sense for them to compete with themselves?
What is the point of Sony Pictures licencing game rights to Microsoft? Or having a new camera if it took them years to interact with it? What is it with Playstation acting like the XPeria doesn't exists? Sony Music has a huge library of licensed music at their disposal, why didn't they ever thought about making them PS3 exclusives for Rock Band and Guitar Hero?
Does it makes sense for them to compete with themselves?
"Recently laid-off Sony PR man Will Powers has taken to Twitter to share some views on his former bosses, questioning the company's recent business decisions and suggesting that its big titles are being thrown to the wolves. It's pretty stern stuff!"
"It's a pretty harsh assessment of Sony's position heading into the holiday season, but it seems like level-headed criticism when you separate it from the fact that a recently laid-off worker said it. "
Right Awesome, A PR guy who takes to twitter to criticize his former employers.. This guy must have ton's of interviews lined up.
Not saying he isn't right, or that that the situation doesn't suck for those still there.. But seriously? Professionalism? Is there even a definition for that any more? Does he think this actually makes him look good, airing the dirty laundry?
"According to Powers, Sony's actually incurring more costs by firing its internal PR team and then giving the work to outsourced contractors. "
Well look at it this way too: If they don't have good PR going, they won't get people buying this shit.. So, in turn, they've got a huge amount of sending they've done, with little profit being made... Overspending to get any PR at all is just one weakness in the chain.
""That being said, you have to question the priorities of the company as a whole -- What [is] the point of AdHoc multiplayer when no one has a Vita?" "
I take issue with this cause he's chosing to forget the fact that Sony wanted people to own this.. They just aren't doing much to push people into feeling like they need it... Thats why AdHoc multiplayer is there.. No one having a Vita isn't a reason not to have it, or plan for it, its just a result of something else entirely.
""Sony in general is serving too many masters. Each company should operate autonomously. PlayStation shouldn't suffer b/c TVs are overpriced."
Right, but we've known for years now that the only reason the Playstation brand was able to survive the beating they took at the beginning of this generation was because Sony has overpriced TVs (well, everything). If one hand didn't pass money to the other we'd probably be lamenting the fall of the brand by now.
Also, theres a PS branded 3DTV out there, in case he forgot.. Sony's made it so some of those different areas bleed into each other. Even if it hasn't worked out for them, doesn't mean that there hasn't been nothing coming from the other, unnecessary, areas.
"Then again, I've long given up trying to understand Sony's business decisions and motivations myself. It just moves in mysterious ways."
Right. Just like we never understand what Nintendo does.. Or what Sega did back when they were still making consoles.. And whats the unifying factor here?
They're Japanese.
I'm seriously not playing the race card to be a douche, but I am playing it to point out that they see business (and EVERYTHING) completely different then we do, and they seem to be able to live with what their companies give them, no matter how backwards. Problem being, they haven't exactly caught on that they live in a global market, even though they've been a part of it for decades now.
"It's a pretty harsh assessment of Sony's position heading into the holiday season, but it seems like level-headed criticism when you separate it from the fact that a recently laid-off worker said it. "
Right Awesome, A PR guy who takes to twitter to criticize his former employers.. This guy must have ton's of interviews lined up.
Not saying he isn't right, or that that the situation doesn't suck for those still there.. But seriously? Professionalism? Is there even a definition for that any more? Does he think this actually makes him look good, airing the dirty laundry?
"According to Powers, Sony's actually incurring more costs by firing its internal PR team and then giving the work to outsourced contractors. "
Well look at it this way too: If they don't have good PR going, they won't get people buying this shit.. So, in turn, they've got a huge amount of sending they've done, with little profit being made... Overspending to get any PR at all is just one weakness in the chain.
""That being said, you have to question the priorities of the company as a whole -- What [is] the point of AdHoc multiplayer when no one has a Vita?" "
I take issue with this cause he's chosing to forget the fact that Sony wanted people to own this.. They just aren't doing much to push people into feeling like they need it... Thats why AdHoc multiplayer is there.. No one having a Vita isn't a reason not to have it, or plan for it, its just a result of something else entirely.
""Sony in general is serving too many masters. Each company should operate autonomously. PlayStation shouldn't suffer b/c TVs are overpriced."
Right, but we've known for years now that the only reason the Playstation brand was able to survive the beating they took at the beginning of this generation was because Sony has overpriced TVs (well, everything). If one hand didn't pass money to the other we'd probably be lamenting the fall of the brand by now.
Also, theres a PS branded 3DTV out there, in case he forgot.. Sony's made it so some of those different areas bleed into each other. Even if it hasn't worked out for them, doesn't mean that there hasn't been nothing coming from the other, unnecessary, areas.
"Then again, I've long given up trying to understand Sony's business decisions and motivations myself. It just moves in mysterious ways."
Right. Just like we never understand what Nintendo does.. Or what Sega did back when they were still making consoles.. And whats the unifying factor here?
They're Japanese.
I'm seriously not playing the race card to be a douche, but I am playing it to point out that they see business (and EVERYTHING) completely different then we do, and they seem to be able to live with what their companies give them, no matter how backwards. Problem being, they haven't exactly caught on that they live in a global market, even though they've been a part of it for decades now.
Wow, no company will ever hire this idiot again for saying things like that about his former employer! And for the record, he's stupid, because I already pre-ordered " LBPK, Sports Champions 2, Wonderbook", with no stupid PR required.
Wake up disgruntled worker, no one needs PR anymore in the Internet age. Games sites do the PR for you!
Wake up disgruntled worker, no one needs PR anymore in the Internet age. Games sites do the PR for you!
Ha-ha. Oh Sony you are always good for laughs. This is not news really. Sony really does have issues we know this, and my only complaint is that he used "twitter" to get his word out. I loathe' twitter. It's made for pre-teens by pre-teens who love drama, and need that school yard drama to survive.
He lost some points for twitter, and well.. Being a contestant on 'Tester'. Oh lord what a fuck up that is -- again by Sony.
He lost some points for twitter, and well.. Being a contestant on 'Tester'. Oh lord what a fuck up that is -- again by Sony.
Sony could really take some notes on how to deal with being back into a corner from Nintendo. That's when Iwata and company tend to be shine the most, but Sony just remains overwhelmed in the face of disaster.
Sony's business decisions really don't make sense sometimes. Why is the Vita still $250+? You'd think that a $250 PS3 with a massive library of good games would be the perfect way to compete against the Wii-U this holiday, yet Sony went and INCREASED the price o_O. Now it's easier to justify spending the extra $30 and pick up a Wii-U instead, especially since it's backward compatible with so many awesome Wii games.
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