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[dyslixec gives us a deep hard look at why you should be playing EVE Online. -- CTZ]

EVE is the darkest, most unforgiving universe you will ever walk through. This isn't some world of alliance/horde characters running around in wheat fields waiting for you to get half health and then ganking you, or playing school yard capture the flag in an arena the size of my bathtub. This isn't a world of open pvpers killing you and getting NO reward other than just killing you. This isn't a world where you have your hand held, guided on a wire, or spoon fed all of your equipment and skill. This is EVE, a universe of cold, hard working, and merciless players. This is our world outside of the real, we are a mimic of the War Profiteers and Black Market monsters that effect everyone in real life today. We profit off of your misery, we make advancements by stealing yours, and we take your merciful attitudes, chew it up, and spit it out. But here is the best part: you will most likely mistake us for someone who cares.

We create the world, we make the history, we alter the course of the story. The players of EVE are all responsible for evolving this game. Think of its creative structure being completely driven by the players and implemented by the developers. Story, new ideas, support, all of this is in our power, and we can all bring these into the world. What do we get in return? A world created by us, and the finance to support our lives within this world we have created. There is no limit.

This is NOT a simpletons game. This is a complex, unforgiving, but vastly rewarding game if you have the patience to stick it through. If you understand how tabletop miniatures games work like Warhammer 40k, Battletech, and D&D, you will understand what I mean by complex. There are attributes for EVERYTHING in this game, and EVERYTHING in this game has a use, whether it is to make money, build ships, build weapons, or ammunition for those weapons -- everything has a purpose.

If you are looking for a constant action, twitch/fast paced adventure game, this is NOT for you. This is a mix of Sins of a Solar Empire, Freelancer, Omnitrend's Universe (very old school) and with the game pace of Homeworld/Sins of a Solar Empire. If you want to experience heart pumping adrenalin in this game, then its in the end game. That being when you join a corp and start experiencing PVP and Corporation wars, then you experience an intensity unlike any other game.

Now I will tell you, this game can be slow paced, and many get the idea that the game requires 100% attention. This is a misconception. I put in only an hour or two of (gameplay) time a day into this game if I'm lucky and I am still able to excel in this game. It all matters to what you prefer to do. This is a game for the hardcore complex casual and hardcore complex core gamers. My friend said it best, EVE is hardcore for the hardcore.

If none of this interests you and you don't think you can get into it, it's OK, just stop reading now. This isn't a game for everybody. If you are interested in playing, and have patience, then by all means keep reading! You can keep reading if you are just overall interested but not interested in playing.

What can I do in EVE? The better question would be what CAN'T you do?

What you can be in EVE is all dependent on how much of an effort you want to put into it. Ultimately, EVE is all about its player driven universe. The storyline, the events, the structure of the game and its economy is all effected from the players of EVE. What they do on a daily basis, what Corporations they bring down, the ways they find to exploit other players -- all of it brings something to the table of CCP's development for EVE.

The following is a list of the things that players do and what YOU can do in EVE. I'm not going to describe each path, for there is too much to explain.

[Side Info] YES these ALL matter in a BIG way with the EVE Universe and there are hundreds if not thousands of people doing each of these roles.

Administrative Roles - The management and arrangement of personal and personnel services in the pursuit of economic or political interests
Accountant
Alliance Executor
Chief Executive Officer
Council Representative
Recruitment Officer

Combat - Careers dealing with space navigation and flight where combat and front line support is the modus operandi
Bait Pilot
Capital Ship Pilot
Cloaking Specialist (Covert Ops)
Damage Specialist
Defense Specialist
EWAR Specialist (Electronic Warfare)
Fleet Commander
Logistics Pilot
Militia
Scout
Sniper
Speed Specialist
Tackler

ISD - Careers dealing with technical and gameplay support, understanding and advancement.
Bug Hunter
Evelopedia Administrator
Fiction Writer
Interstellar Correspondent
Support Officer

Resource - Careers dealing with the extraction, acquisition, transfer and process of materials for research and manufacture.
Explorer
Hauler
Manufacturer
Miner
Mining Supervisor
Researcher
Salvager
Starbase Manager
Trader

Service - Careers dealing with the provision of technical, creative or economic services to the players of EVE. -- "There is no way of knowing where this will lead, but we're all in it together and the promise of what we can accomplish together is astonishing" - CCP Xhagen
Adventurer
Agency Contractor
Banker
Bookmaker
Broadcaster
Cartographer
Diplomat
File Archivist
Freelancer
historian
Instructor
Mortician
Musician
PR Consultant
Software Engineer
Videographer
Writer


Where it all starts:

Now that we have gotten that out of the way, and you understand that there is a VAST world to be explored, I am here to really give you a basic start in 'breaking yourself in' into the EVE universe. I will take you through a simpletons path of breaking yourself in. I will show you the path I took and what its brought me so far, and basically give you an idea of what you can accomplish. Now there are MANY ways you can approach this game, this is just the way I did it and its helped me greatly.

Step One: Creation

So choose a race (I recommend Caldari - this is the route I went) and a bloodline. These used to matter and have specific attributes added to them, but now its all on an even playing field for all races. You start from the scratch with all races. What it all depends on now is what type of career path you choose and how you want to fight, mine, trade, manage, etc. Each race is located in different regions of the galaxy (and this is one big ass galaxy) so if you want to play with friends, its best to all go the same race so you all start in the same region of space. Otherwise you could be taking a rough and deadly journey through the galaxy just to meet up with your friend.


Step Two: Tutorials

So, you created your character and you have a vague idea as to what you want to do with yourself in the universe of EVE. You launch the game, you are in space and, well, here is where I'm going to be very blunt.

DO THE TUTORIAL.

Many people want to just start this game and skip through everything and think they can learn it all on their own. Well guess what: THIS IS NOT A SIMPLETON GAME. You will fail miserably if you try to learn this game without reading through tutorials or guides.

You will first go through the main tutorial that comes up when you launch the game. This tutorial will teach you the basic ways of combat and navigation and it will also teach some important aspects of the menu system. Once you go through this tutorial it will dock you at your races station. This station will contain three other tutorial agents that you can also find through the help menu that is located on the left side of the EVE Nav bar.

These tutorial agents were brought to my attention after the new Apocrypha patch. I saw this one month after I started playing so you will have a much better head start than I did when I started this game. These three agents will cover the aspect of hauling materials, contracts, combat, salvaging, materials reprocessing and mining. After you learn these things from these agents you are ready to make your way through the first series of the Epic Arc missions that were introduced to EVE Online with the Apocrypha patch. And with these skills you will be able to pull in AT LEAST 700,000 ISK (game currency) per mission. On average I was making 1.2 million ISK per Epic Arc mission by doing the missions, salvaging on these missions, and selling the resources you collect.


Step 3: Fitting your ship for the journey and understanding your environment.

Once you have finished the basic tutorial missions, you will go and venture out into space. But first you must fit your ship properly for the adventure. Depending on what you have been training your skills around, is what you will fit your ship with. For instance, since I have been training missiles. I am going to go with a Caldari Frigate, and for this I went with a Kestrel. The Kestrel is a basic frigate missile boat for the Caldari and uses missile launchers for its weapon systems. This ship was actually given to me as a reward for one of the tutorial missions, so it saved me some money right there.

[Side Info] The reason why I went with a Kestrel is because I am going for the Cloaking Specialist Career path which is a Covert Ops type career. With this in mind I looked up what type of Caldari Covert Ops ships there were and saw that the Covert Op Ship I wanted was a kestrel frigate. Early preparation for what I will be using I guess you could say.

The skills I have been training under Missile Launcher Operations is:
Missile Bombardment : I have trained this to lvl 5 first
Missile Launcher Operation : lvl 5
Standard Missiles: lvl 4

Now you may not start off with some of these skills so you may have to buy the skill book. If that's the case, run some missions with your basic setup and then buy the skill books. They shouldn't cost much at all. You will also want to pay attention to the time it takes to train these skills. For example, when I got my Missile Launcher Operation to Level 4, I stopped it there and trained my Standard Missiles to level 4 since it would take less time, then went back to training Missile Launcher Operation to level 5. Apart from training these, you will want to focus your training around learning and engineering if you go through this route that I'm talking about.

Now apart from selecting the proper ship, and understanding what to put on it, you must understand how to utilize materials that you purchase. For instance, when you are looking for missile launchers and missiles for those launchers you want to understand what they do. So -- IMPORTANT RULE -- Always view the product info and read up on its attributes and prerequisites. This will let you know if you can use these products or train these certain skills just yet.


[Side Info] Salvaging is another way to obtain materials to sell and build things. Whenever you destroy a ship there is always a ship wreckage and sometimes that wreckage has some cargo in it for you to exploit. That cargo can get you some cash, but if you really want to expand your profits, salvaging will help you greatly through missions. What salvaging does is it takes the ship wreck itself and tries to salvage any ship components it can. Now you wont always get something out of a wreck, but more times than not you will get enough to add another 400,000-600,000 isk to your mission. You can also collect these ship components and use them to build ships yourself if you don't want spend the money on buying them pre-built.

Ship Fitting for my adventure

Ship: Kestrel Caldari Frigate
Hardpoint Fitting (Missile launcher hardpoints) : 4 of the Standard Missile Launcher I
Secondary Fittings : Cap Regcharger I, Shield Booster I
Basic Fitting : Power Diagnostic System I, Ballistic Control System I

With these fittings I was able to plow through the Epic Arc missions with ease. There were some missions where I had to spend some time fighting a foe. At first I thought they were impossible until I learned that certain ships have a harder time hitting you the closer you orbit them.

Which brings in another aspect; understand how the weapons work. Each weapon system has a certain effective range. With my setup, I can hit targets at 0-25km, any further and my missiles die out and don't do anything. The closer I am with certain ships the more damage I will do. Apart from distance, there is also importance in the types of rounds and types of launchers/turret weapons you use. Some are geared for PVP and others are geared for PVE. For instance, faction missiles are used mainly for PVP, and standard missiles are used for PVE. Understanding how your weapons work will improve your chances of survival in this universe.


Step 4: Moving deeper into the verse and running Missions

First things first, you must understand the space that you are in. The systems you start off in no matter which race you are is rather safe security territory. You can see the security of systems in the upper right of your screen where it shows the system you are in. Security status goes from 1.0 to 0.0. 1.0 to 0.5. Space is generally safe territory, and is protected by AI Police known as Concord. Concord will come to the aid to players in 1.0 to 0.5 security space, however they may not make it on time depending on where you are located and what the level of the security space is (usually the lower the security space is, the fewer Concord that are around).

0.5 and below is unsecured space and you should only go in at your own risk. Starting off you do NOT want to go into this territory, even when you first join a corp as a noob they advise that you stay away from anything below 0.5 until you can properly defend yourself or you have an escort. Players that attack players in security space going all the way down to 0.1 will have a negative standing, but that doesn't stop them. In 0.0 Security space, this is lawless territory, free game, wasteland. These are usually territories controlled by alliances, and some alliances will have open travel free territory while others will have shoot on sight territory. You will learn more about this when you get into corporations.

MISSION TIME!



Now its time for you to do your missions! So I will tell you one simple thing: Go to the Arnon System, Go to the Sisters of EVE Bureau Station, and talk to the Agent that gives you the Epic Arc mission. And from there the adventure for you begins.

System: Arnon
Station: Sisters of EVE Bureau

[Side info] You can find these stations and systems through your People & Places Dock which is located on the EVE Nav bar, here is also how you find and add other players playing the game. Your buddy list if you will.

This epic arc structure will take you through some high paying missions for starter pilots. You will make A LOT of money with this path. I went through this and did salvaging in all of the missions I was given and I finished with 20 million ISK at the end of it all.


Step 5: Your Final Destination

Now it is time for you to get your hands dirty. This is the end game, this is where it all comes to fruition, this is where it all matters. You will join a Corporation, you can find Corporation recruiters in the channel's list which is located on the EVE Nav panel on the left side of your screen. You can use this to find Corporations to join, or if you have friends that play and are in Corporations you can join up with them if they will have you.

Many Corporations will accept noobies, this is the best way to get your feet wet. With this new experience you will be on your main track of learning. They will teach you the deeper complex structure of EVE and the complex and satisfying nature of PVP & corporate war.

[side info] Corporations are like Guilds & Clans in other games/MMOs. But unlike other MMOs, these boys play shit for the profit. Their actions effect EVERYTHING in the game. They can bring down entire alliances, they can control vast amounts of EVE territory. With Corporate alliances players, will experience what its like to be a nation, they will live a virtual life of political and military unrest. Here is where all of EVE is centered around, it is what all players work for. You literally are living in a virtual capitalist society that is controlled by corporate war profiteers, black market mobs, and cold hearten pirates.


Conclusion

So there you have it. It seems like a lot, huh? Well I warned you, this is not a simpletons game, this is a very complex, very intuitive game. It is not for everybody, it is not a friendly world out there, this is as dirty as it gets. The problems of today's real life with corporate power and war profiteers is just what EVE online is. If the corporations and war profiteers of the real world were to still be in power hundreds of years from now, EVE could very well be the real. LOLOLONOES CONSPIRACY! I know, but its an interesting outlook when you make the comparison.

To say this game is horrible and sucks is just pure subjective rage. From a design aspect and community aspect this is a very innovative and brilliant structure. Sure its not for everyone, its a very underground style of gameplay, but the way it has been approached with getting the community to be a core part of its development process is nothing short of spectacular. Graphically the game is like no other, and from a design structure, nothing can compare to its complexity. I mean, we are talking about a game that had Financial and Economic Advisers aid them in creating the games economic structure.

What I explained to you today was just but one sprinkle that is on top of the frosting which sits on top of this giant cake. Besides combat there is a whole entire active world of manufacturers, traders, market exploiters, corporate managers, pirates, mercenaries, spies (quite literally there is internal espionage within Corporations that cause massive amounts of damage that can destroy years worth of a player(s) work), bankers, miners, etc. etc. And all of these aspects are taken seriously. Management, asset control -- all of it. If you are someone who is interested in business, finance, expanding a company, this game can seriously give you an insight as to what its like. There is so much more that I cannot show you in just one blog, and this was long enough.

So if you feel up to it, take the step, be bold pilot.

-WastelandTraveler (dyslixec)
-GalOre Industries of the Final Retribution Alliance.


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king3vbo's Avatar
king3vbo at 04/08/2009 09:36
OH MY GOD WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN

I think EVE is an awesome game, and I had a ton of fun playing it when I did. Great writeup Mikey
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Half left at 04/08/2009 09:39
I have so much respect for EVE.

But I do not have the patience or concentration to enjoy it. So I know to stay away.

Good guide.
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SilverDragon1979 at 04/08/2009 09:57
Damn this sounds so bad ass!
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Tascar at 04/08/2009 10:11
Very nice introduction to EVE. I was actually in the process of doing something like an intro to WoW except that I would be approaching it by walking through some of the most interesting boss encounters.
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Josh Tolentino at 04/08/2009 10:32
@Half Left

Same here with me.

EVE is probably the deepest and most impressive MMO out there, but it is more than I can bear.

For non-EVE players, the best part about EVE is the fiction and the amazing ability of the people who make trailers for its expansion packs.

Did you see the update teasers for Empyrean Age and Quantum Rise? Genius!
de BLOO's Avatar
de BLOO at 04/08/2009 11:59
tl;dp

no srs, this game overwhelmed me.
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adultswim810 at 04/08/2009 13:33
http://eve.klaki.net/heist/
This piques my intrest in this game. It sounds fascinating, but I'm actually a bit scared to join ._.
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BigPopaGamer at 04/08/2009 14:09
I loved EVE for the month and a half that I played it. But I ultimately didn't have the patience or the time to invest in it. Still an amazing game.
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Numpty at 04/08/2009 14:57
I absolutely loved my time in EVE (Can't stress it enough, GO SALVAGER at least in the beginning, it's the fastest way to make rediculous amounts of ISK, especially running low level dungeons with lots of weak npc frigates, but even hanging around battlefields cleaning up the dead can make you rich) but I just dont have the time to play it and do justice, even with the offline training time and exp-less growth system which you never touched on! wtf nublet! ;)

Anyway, if you have time to play a crap MMO like EQ or WoW, give a real one like EVE a try, you won't be dissapointed.
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OedipusPrime at 04/17/2009 19:20
Did you copy/paste this from gameFAQs? Ugh.
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Chronic Logic at 04/17/2009 19:29
FUCK EVE. People who play EVE takes things TOO SERIOUSLY. I mean what the hell? They actually have a player council every year to discuss issues with the game developers to make sure there is no foul play. That is a bit extreme. Do I want to wait a fucking year just before I can get a dreadnought or a titan? Hell NO! If you aren't in the Goonswarm alliance you are fucked. Ironically enough, Goonswarm is probably the only corporation that actually tries to have fun.
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Discarded Couch Sandwich at 04/17/2009 19:52
I loved this write up and I love the sound of the game, but again, I wouldn't possibly have the patience for something this deep. Heck I can't even get into Oblivion at the moment. Fable even scared me with the promise of its depth! (which turned out in the end to be all Peter Moleneux's lies!)

I tend to stay away from MMO's completely. You said you could get away with only about two hours a day, but I always feel that instead of getting deeper into that single game, I could be using those two hours to play a different game which has an end, and then moving onto different experiences.

In other words, I prefer my simpleton games!
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Mozgus at 04/17/2009 20:13
With this article, I feel motivated to give EVE another shot. So ok, I reinstalled the game, new trail account, I just finished the tutorial, got my first mission, this is ganna be great. I can't wait to ge.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
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kalidanthepalidan at 04/17/2009 20:30
I can't make the time commitment to EVE (or any other MMO really). But I LOVE reading about what goes on in-game. I find the spying, assasinations, corporate take overs, multi hour long wars for corporate held space so interesting.
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Rick Diculous at 04/17/2009 21:42
Sounds like an interesting concept, but it seems the only people who could play and be any good would have no life outside of this.

Sorry, I'll pass. I'm a serious gamer, but I also exist in the real world too.
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aaronf at 04/17/2009 21:45
This does not sound like a game for married people with children and jobs.
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grafkhun at 04/17/2009 23:00
This summer... I will start playing EVE, and I'm going to love it. I've never gotten into the MMO scene, always thought they were dumb, and while I knew about EVE, I didn't know about EVE, ya dig? Damn, it sounds so amazing, I'm getting in on this shit. Thank you dyslikec!
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tigerfangred91 at 04/17/2009 23:44
Great writeup. As of now I don't have the patience (or time) for this game, but hopefully in the near future I'll pick it up. I'm going to bookmark this guide because if I had this when I played, it would have been slightly less frustrating.

But overall, I'm confused as to why this game doesn't really get as much recognition as it should.
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Velt at 04/18/2009 00:32
I want to have the time to spend and play some EVE, it seems very different from any other MMO.

Nice writing.
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Naim Master at 04/18/2009 00:44
@Half left

This is the most overwhelming game ever.
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blu3steel at 04/18/2009 01:37
EVE is the only MMO that I play. I've played WoW and a few others and they're nice distractions sometimes, but I always go back to EVE. It definitely takes a certain breed of person to play it, but everyone I tell the lore to loves it.
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triclops41 at 04/18/2009 02:17
This game is too much for me, but I love reading about it. EVE really is thecurrent pinnacle of MMOs. WoW is bigger, but EVE is a true alternate reality
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Dodgyc at 04/18/2009 04:10
Pretty good writeup.
For every 5 people who say that Eve is too overwhelming for them, there's at least 1 person who's now signed up and happily flying around Jita because of this article...
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Timmeh at 04/18/2009 04:42
I thought EVE was pretty good, and if you give it some time and pay attention it isn't that hard to get a good idea of what's required. I stopped playing after a couple of months because I didn't really do much social interacting so I got bored.

I guess it's a pretty good game if you get into a player corporation and seemed less demanding of my time than when I played WoW, but I'm wary of committing myself to any MMO these days.
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Eschatos at 04/18/2009 08:11
Perhaps some day I'll get around to playing.
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Neonie at 04/18/2009 08:32
I've actually started the trial a few days ago. I'm quite enjoying my self.
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VisMortua at 04/18/2009 09:32
Very good write up. You've convinced me to get my feet wet.
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grasslunatic at 04/18/2009 15:36
tl;dr
I want to have a life.
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stevesan at 04/18/2009 19:09
i really think they could make EVE more newbie friendly...
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ConsummateK at 04/18/2009 19:51
I just started playing this...I'm overwhelmed but in a good way. I'm ConsummateK we should fly together....or something. I'm looking for friends in the cold space of EVE lol >.>
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Wexx at 04/19/2009 00:27
Maybe I'll try playing Eve again now. The last time I tried, I had NO IDEA what I was doing. This will probably be a big help.
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Polysynchronicity at 04/23/2009 14:04
Couple things I'd like to point out if you want to take a moment to fix them:

The salvage you get from wrecks is used to build Rigs, not ships. Rigs are fitted to ships in Rig slots, and improve one aspect of your ship at the cost of something else. They usually sell for 4-30 million each depending on the rig, so building them may net you a bit more money than just selling the components.

Ships are built using minerals. You get minerals by mining ore from asteroids, then refining it - or, you can buy them off the market.

If you build anything you will want the skill "Production Efficiency" trained up high to reduce the amount of wasted ISK. Without this skill to 4 or 5, you'll usually make more money selling the raw materials than using them to build products.

Choosing a race doesn't lock you into anything except your general appearance. Choose the race with the appearance and backstory that you like the most - any race can train any skill, fly any ship, go anywhere in EVE without restrictions. You get a small head start toward your race's ships, but it's insignificant compared to what you'll be training on your own even in the first few days in EVE.

Faction missiles only differ from regular missiles in that they have higher damage. They aren't used for PvE very often because of how expensive they are. (10 to 1000 times what regular ammo costs)

Exploring low security (below 0.5) space is NOT the suicide trap that other players make it out to be. It is less safe than being in empire (above 0.5), to be sure, but if you keep your wits about you and make sure to run away from trouble, you can make much more money in low security space than you can in empire.

Corps in the "recruitment" channel are usually near the bottom of the barrel - they're often small startups without clear goals and with inexperienced leadership. You can find better ones by looking on the forums. "EVE University" in particular specializes in training new players.

And of course, my corp ("MEK Enterprises", ingame channel "MEK PUBLIC") is always open to everyone. We have access to fairly safe 0.0 space, plans for setting up a POS (starbase) in a wormhole system, and plenty of members from all professions and skill levels in EVE.

Wasn't expecting this to be quite so long. o.O

Best of luck

-Poly
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cynuu at 04/23/2009 18:26
Great article, but as you said it only touches on the complexity of Eve. I have played Eve for almost 4 years now and the thing that is keeping me playing is that there is always something new to learn / try. It is wonderously complex but not overbearing given paitence and a willingness to learn. Play it, live it, but be warned PIRACY RULES in Eve and the faint of heart better be adept at hiding or running if caught in the wrong neighborhood.
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HenryF at 04/24/2009 02:30
The article were some good reading. Having been played EVE for 4 years, I must say, EVE is good playground for playing out your wildest dreams. To be honest, EVE is pretty hard to get started with. There's quite a bit of boredom to live through, before the real fun starts. But it's the training time, what tests your suitability for the life in EVE.

By the words of one of EVE devs... "EVE is not cold and ruthless by accident, it's by design"
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Ianladd at 04/24/2009 05:52
to Chronic Logic.. Dude, you know nothing! I play Eve, and definitely DO NOT take it too seriously.. Its a blast! I got a wife, a career, a mortgage, and I play ONE computer game.. thats the thing with an MMO like Eve, its a great fun thing to play, but it isnt an X-Box game!

If you mean Eve players take it seriously because they put time and effort into it.. then yeah, fair point, If you mean we have grumpy frowns and sit discussing isk and skill plans all day, or the political machinations of teh empires etc.. nah, bollocks to that, most players just love to buy ships and blow shit up. Only thing is in this game, that can have DIRE consequences if you pick on the wrong people. Makes it all the more fun in my opinion :))
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Kelduum at 04/24/2009 07:48
Thanks for the mention, Polysynchronicity!

If anyone is looking to give Eve a try, once you get past the first tutorial, look up 'Eve University' in-game or Google for us - we're a group of over 1,000 players from all over the world which as been going for over 5 years. Our only mission is to teach new players what they need to know to survive in Eve, though our forums, helpful members, lessons and so on, all free of charge and donated by the community.
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WastelandTraveler at 04/24/2009 20:19
Oh man, Thanks Polysynchronicity! I had no idea this was on the main page of eveonline.com, nor even promoted to dtoids front page haha, I would have definitely gone back and made some corrections!

I'll see if I can still do so, ive learned alot over the past couple of weeks since I wrote this, I only wish I could have made this article a little more accurate before CCP nabbed it XD.
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xj076a at 04/24/2009 22:26
I would like to say to dyslixec, thank you for putting such awesome mention and brief overview to one of my favorite games ever...

I myself am a proud pilot of EvE and have been for a year this coming May and I would just like to say to the people that have had their interest piqued by this article... Don't be afraid to try the game, even now with everything I can do and everything I've learned during this past year playing eve I'm still terrified by how complex is it and what the players in it have done and even now I'm still learning more about the game. But not only that I'm also getting glimpse into how some of the actual world works.

Even then despite how serious people can get about the game it's still a game and I find it fun. Give it a try, you get a 2 week trial, 3 weeks if you sign up via steam if they're still doing that, I mean what have you got to lose? And to be blunt and let the jackass in me spring forth for a moment... if you do manage to survive the first month or so you might actually grow some balls...

Seriously though, for those that haven't yet, try it you might like it. If you don't, think of it like the other games you tried, didn't like and felt like you wasted your time on, whatever.

Either way I'm gonna go kick some ass, have some laughs, and generally have a good time.

Be bold pilot. Even if you're not a pilot meant for this game, you only get one life, I say use it, you might actually enjoy it.
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Lag Hon at 04/25/2009 01:19
I have been playing Eve for 3 years now and it has spoiled me, everything else around pales in comparison. Yes it does require the 3 golden Ps Planning Preparation Patience but the rewards at the end of the road are unparraleled. An acheivement in eve is a noteworthy deal and the bulk of the Eve community does acknowledge your achevements. That said I was having fun with Eve right from the first day, I wasnt making billions of ISK but I was out there shooting ducking and weaving, meeting people, and making a small but steady income. As your skills, ships and standings increase the income gathers momentum and your looking at bigger and bigger toys all the time. It does consume a fair amount of time but I have 2 small children and run my own business and still have time to play Eve. Be a good idea if your thinking of playing and your married, get your spouse involved as well. As the articles state Eve accomodates a wide range of playstyles, and its ingame chat system outclasses any IM system.
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kombat601 at 04/25/2009 07:04
I have been playing EVE for 1 year and 6 months, and im loving it, BIG TIME!!
If only this guide was made when i had started, would have been slightly easier, but still, nothing compares to being ass-whooped by a pirate to help ya learn, and quickly.
Awsome guide, and a link will be placed on my corps website for our newer players, and even our older players to read, as for some of these comments about eve, yes it's a long ass game, BUT.. i have seen websites after website of the same ppl complaining that games are too easy, to quick to complete, no challange etc etc etc, and on ,on and on, WELL WHY THE HELL AINT YOU PLAYING EVE!!!!!! quit whining about it, and play a REAL game, grow someballs as previously mentioned, actually play a game where you have to EARN your reputation, EARN your money, EARN your new toys, and not get given them like some spoilt brat saying "i want, i want".!!
And you never know, you might actually find a game that actually challanges YOU to thinking.
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thingymawotzit at 04/26/2009 22:26
People who say eve is overwhelming or harsh on noobs are the people that we eve players dont want in the game. We have a tight community which doesn't like newcomers so maybe it ISNT for you!
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RedD Kochanski at 04/26/2009 23:28
******EVE is NOT cruel and merciless!****

(.....unless you want it to be)


Hi. I'm a girl. I PVE, not PVP. I'm an EVE "carebear" -- that's someone that mines a lot and does PVE but not PVP -- and I love it. I'm a noob and only been playing for a month, and I have to say I'm glad I did not read this review or these comments before downloading the game, or else I would never ever have tried it.
I had hesitations but my EVE-playing boyfriend convinced me, correctly, that I have a rich sci-fi RPG available to me without any PVP if that's how i want to play it. If i had read this review or these comments, I would not have downloaded this game.

Ok. yes, this game is hard-core. We are talking DND on Mentats.

And yes, this game is unforgiving. If you like to cheet and give yourself god-mode, this game is NOT for you. Like another reviewer said, if you think most games are just too easy these day.... EVE is the game for you!

But no, this game is NOT cruel, nor does it require that you give up your social life.... unless you want it to be. You join a hard-core null-sec territory-taking-over PVP corp, it's hard-core and crule. you join some PVE-mission-running high-sec corp of people with a sense of humor, and off you go! have fun!

You can play this game for a year and not fire your gun once if that's your thing. You can PVE and mine like I do.

Yes, 90% of the corps are hard-core, mean, cruel, PVPers. But they can't convo you without paying ingame money for it, so no one bothers me for silly duels like they did in WoW. They leave cans outside stations begging for a fight... but I just fly right on by.
If you want a bunch of casual gamers with a sense of humor, you can join a corp of such! Just go thru 10 corps in the recruiting section and find the one corp that isn't cruel and mercilless and time-consuming and PVP!
Again, if you have a brain in your head, it's not hard to tell from corp description and the CEO's security rating and bio what kind of corp it is.
I joined a PVE and mining corp and I'm loving it.

The game was designed to be cruel, yes. Pirates can bother miners like me and can-flip them to taunt them into attacking. but it's *your choice* if you attack. and you know what? can-flippers are hated so much, and so many miners are alts for PVP chars, that you won't meet many of them!
Because this game IS unforgiving, it is NOT as cruel as it was designed to be!

Yes, EVE taunts, tempts, and at times if you're an idiot, tricks people like me into PVP. In fact, i have my first duel scheduled soon and a hard-core PVP-er helping me to outfit my ship for it. I never thought I'd do PVP, but.... this guy needs to be shot. By a girl. A noob girl. In a care-bear corp. I won't go into the details, but he NEEDS to be shot, LOL.
So I'm going to PVP with some advice and help and training. But only because I choose to!
If i die, I loose my ship. He loots it.
Again. My choice.

And... this IS the sort of game for married with children people! Because your skills level up no matter if you are logged on or not!

In WoW i knew a couple where the wife did a lot more work at home than the man, as is often the case for women. So she didn't play as much WoW. So she didn't level as much.
And he lorded it over her that he was levelling faster!
In eve... this can't happen becuase your skills always level up even while you are logged off. (this sounds wierd but trust me, it's great. You end up picking skills that you want to actually use in the game... instead of doing stuff in the game to increase your skills)

So no, this is EXACTLY the sort of game for married with children people, provided you don't want to do any hard-core POS warfare in no-sec areas. THAT's not for people with schedules. But if you don't wanna do that... don't join that sort of corp!
While WoW on a PVE server may be more my sort of *game*... I'm not a PVP person... I will stick to EVE *because* most of the people who play it are adults.
And because idiots don't last long in EVE.

So yes, EVE is a hard-core PVP game full of hard-core PVP people. but there is a place for all sorts here -- all sorts except idiots that is.
and all PVP is ultimatly by choice. You choose to go to low-sec where you know (if you paid attention to the tutorial) people can attack you. You choose to fight back to the very, very rare can-flipper.

One thing i like about the PVE in this game, is that it really varies. Sometimes it's too easy sometimes I barely warp out with my life. It's not set to the level you are at, like in Bethesda games. It's your responsiblity to survive.
So yes, eve is 'unforgiving' of stupidity. But it is NOT cruel! (unless you want it to be).
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Shibuyax at 04/27/2009 00:54
Ok i have been playing eve for only 9 days but i am enjoying every second of it. why i started playing was that i was checking out alot of trials for mmorpgs all over. the f2p ones like ethersaga,rohan,shaiya,and also trial games like warhammer online. none of them even intrested me for the whole day (or for maybe a few days).i used to play WoW but now im married with kids and i remembered how addicted i was to it so i didnt wanna start it up. the only way i quit was because i was going through hard times and my computer messed up on me (thank God).Now i knew about eve like 3 years ago when my friend dad was playing it and he had 3 accounts with 3 computers mining. i saw this game and was like the graphics are ok but i never saw him do anything. he was always just doing that mining or in menus doing stuff. so i thought it was boring and im like what kinda fag plays something like that. i was actually gonna be like screw mmorpgs because i couldnt find a good one that hooked me but i was very desperate when i tried the eve trail.The first day i was overwhelmed in EvE. i didnt know what i was doing i was just clicking and reading. there were menus after menus of text.i consider myself a hardcore gamer but i was like this is too much...but i was like i cant judge this game yet i havent did anything...everygame nowadays have boring tutorials so i stuck it out for like a couple more hours until my first tutorial mission. after i saw another ship blow up i was like cool and was hooked afterwards.

Actually learning the game is a gradual process..so for people who are new or thinking about joining dont overwhelm urself and take it one step at a time. there is a rookie chat so u can ask all the dumb questions u want and they respond to them too (i asked dumb questions that most other mmorpgs would pick on u for but eve community is modest). I will close out with this. If u are tired of grinding mob after mob to reach ur highest level and u are lookin for a game u can play casually or hardcore then this is the game for you..just my advice i have to add is dont quit before tutorial...stick it out!!!!
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TTBrundleFly at 04/27/2009 07:11
"Sorry, I'll pass. I'm a serious gamer, but I also exist in the real world too."

Someone said this silly statement. You don't know what a "serious gamer" is. Serious gaming is when you sit playing for 12 hours with out getting up unless you want to pee. There are up to 50,000 people on the server at a time all of us who have a real lie, yet we manage to do both.

Someone said "This is not a game for married people with kids". Not necessarily true but even if it is so what? This game was made for certain people in mind. If you don't like that tough luck, there always simple games out there for people with short attention spans.

So many people want instant gratification and if they don't get it they want to whine. One whiner said he doesn't want to wait a year to get a Titan. You won't be even close to a Titan in a year. So cry me a river.

This game is hard, unforgiving and challenging, and a blast for people with patience, and in my experience, people with a higher IQ. If you want to play something easy there is always WOW.
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umbra at 04/27/2009 13:29
I've been playing since last June and just love it. The game's complexity isn't too much if you take in a piece of the game at a time. Once you figure out the basics, though, you can start to realize that the social element of this game goes much farther than other online games.

The game mechanics behind corporations and alliances is very detailed. The concept of corporations is central to the game's design. There is no all-powerful individual in Eve, either. You never have a ship that can't be trumped by something, so to cover your own weaknesses you have to have friends.

Also, the alliances formed by a corp (or an official alliance) creates serious relationships between players when you are away from the protection of the non-player-controlled security forces. You NEED friends, and the relationships between pilots, corps, and alliances is what keep the low security regions of EVE from becoming a chaotic free-for-all that isn't any fun for anybody.

Your choices have to be intelligent. You are not anonymous. You invest a lot of time into your character, so you don't want to just quit when you've made others hate you.

I've seen young people play that are impatient with the game. They want to be ultra-heroes right away. Eve is too much like a real world for that to happen. Become very good at anything requires a lot of patience, but for those that stick to it it has a lot of rewards.

You don't have to spend a lot of game time, either, if you don't want to. Your character is training all the time whether you are on or not. If you want a month off, set a skill with a long training time, take a vacation, and come back having learned something serious.
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Revennant at 04/28/2009 01:28
I'm a proud pilot in EVE for 2,5 years, my friend will be celebrating his 5th in few days. It's an awesome game with total freedom of doing anything you like or want to. It can not be compared to any other MMO, because it's so different than any other MMO. I believe everyone can find his own way of enjoying this fantastic game.

Internet spaceships FTW :)
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g3xadt at 04/28/2009 01:54
Very nice post. I've been playing on and off since 2006. I stopped again though, need to concentrate on work. I get addicted easily with EVE that's why I stopped. ^_^
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Dracarou at 04/28/2009 11:58
Great guide! A few errors but all in all it gives an excellent perspective from a young pilot's point of view.

I believe that the greatest aspect of Eve is the fact that I am rarely the eldest person in the room! Other games it was rare to not be the old fart in the corner. With Eve, there are many people my own age.

Regards and happy flying..
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STK-S AizenSousuke at 04/28/2009 12:58
Very good guide, wish I had it when I started playing!
Very accurate as well. When the author says this isn't a game for impatient people, he's right.

I will tell you this though. The rush you get when you start PVP is addictive. I've been playing Eve since Aug. '07, and I still get that same rush when I engage a target.

For all you new players: Beware what you do and who you join up with. Scamming is 100% allowed and there are people who will paint a beautiful picture for you just to take all of your money and items away in the end and laugh as you whine about it. All your complaints will be replied to a "So you're quitting? Can I have your stuff?". If something seems too good to be true, then it is. Join up with Eve University. They will show you the right path and teach you what you need to know. When you graduate and love PVP, then look me up. =)
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Oxykottin at 04/28/2009 13:17
I have played eve off and on for years. I will be the first to say It has its flaws. However, It's flaws have purpose. Things like logistics. A large war takes high end logistics using combined efforts and countless hours.

But you have to understand effort and time make intense moments heighten. When your resources are limited each enemy kill (or fellow loss) so much more important ,it adds a tenseness usually only found in real life.

Another amazing factor in Eve is strategy. It's like a complex RTS but each pilot is a real living person not a mindless drone following orders. People make mistakes that the Flight Commander has adapt to or lose everything.

Information much like real life combat is Everything; in a battle knowing what your enemy has, where they are and who could possibly join them is so important.

(Often while listening to combat communication I think of a book I have read many times called Enders game. If you get this reference you will want to join immediately I know )


What other MMO lets you make decisions that can actually change the face of the entire game.

That one person can bring the arguably the most powerful entity (BOB) in game down with cunning, guile, and good old fashion espionage.

Most other mmorpg's like WOW you are just playing dress up. Trying to have the prettiest sword or armor piece that is useless when the next expansion comes out. With combat having no real risk except for aggravation of your fellow raid members and a few gold.

Despite all this the greatest flaw to Eve is not just its learning curve (which is insanely high See http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg) its the fact that its so easy to get stuck with people who just suck.

It is hard to find a corp that is good that will except people who are new or clueless. So my best advice is to make due learn everything there is to learn. Know your shit before you want to do high end pvp.

This game takes effort to be good at, It is like a real breathing world with an economy and a personality.

Well I rambled on enough I hope someone enjoyed my comment.
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