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I think EVE is an awesome game, and I had a ton of fun playing it when I did. Great writeup Mikey
I think EVE is an awesome game, and I had a ton of fun playing it when I did. Great writeup Mikey
I have so much respect for EVE.
But I do not have the patience or concentration to enjoy it. So I know to stay away.
Good guide.
But I do not have the patience or concentration to enjoy it. So I know to stay away.
Good guide.
Very nice introduction to EVE. I was actually in the process of doing something like an intro to WoW except that I would be approaching it by walking through some of the most interesting boss encounters.
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Same here with me.
EVE is probably the deepest and most impressive MMO out there, but it is more than I can bear.
For non-EVE players, the best part about EVE is the fiction and the amazing ability of the people who make trailers for its expansion packs.
Did you see the update teasers for Empyrean Age and Quantum Rise? Genius!
Same here with me.
EVE is probably the deepest and most impressive MMO out there, but it is more than I can bear.
For non-EVE players, the best part about EVE is the fiction and the amazing ability of the people who make trailers for its expansion packs.
Did you see the update teasers for Empyrean Age and Quantum Rise? Genius!
http://eve.klaki.net/heist/
This piques my intrest in this game. It sounds fascinating, but I'm actually a bit scared to join ._.
This piques my intrest in this game. It sounds fascinating, but I'm actually a bit scared to join ._.
I loved EVE for the month and a half that I played it. But I ultimately didn't have the patience or the time to invest in it. Still an amazing game.
I absolutely loved my time in EVE (Can't stress it enough, GO SALVAGER at least in the beginning, it's the fastest way to make rediculous amounts of ISK, especially running low level dungeons with lots of weak npc frigates, but even hanging around battlefields cleaning up the dead can make you rich) but I just dont have the time to play it and do justice, even with the offline training time and exp-less growth system which you never touched on! wtf nublet! ;)
Anyway, if you have time to play a crap MMO like EQ or WoW, give a real one like EVE a try, you won't be dissapointed.
Anyway, if you have time to play a crap MMO like EQ or WoW, give a real one like EVE a try, you won't be dissapointed.
FUCK EVE. People who play EVE takes things TOO SERIOUSLY. I mean what the hell? They actually have a player council every year to discuss issues with the game developers to make sure there is no foul play. That is a bit extreme. Do I want to wait a fucking year just before I can get a dreadnought or a titan? Hell NO! If you aren't in the Goonswarm alliance you are fucked. Ironically enough, Goonswarm is probably the only corporation that actually tries to have fun.
I loved this write up and I love the sound of the game, but again, I wouldn't possibly have the patience for something this deep. Heck I can't even get into Oblivion at the moment. Fable even scared me with the promise of its depth! (which turned out in the end to be all Peter Moleneux's lies!)
I tend to stay away from MMO's completely. You said you could get away with only about two hours a day, but I always feel that instead of getting deeper into that single game, I could be using those two hours to play a different game which has an end, and then moving onto different experiences.
In other words, I prefer my simpleton games!
I tend to stay away from MMO's completely. You said you could get away with only about two hours a day, but I always feel that instead of getting deeper into that single game, I could be using those two hours to play a different game which has an end, and then moving onto different experiences.
In other words, I prefer my simpleton games!
I can't make the time commitment to EVE (or any other MMO really). But I LOVE reading about what goes on in-game. I find the spying, assasinations, corporate take overs, multi hour long wars for corporate held space so interesting.
Sounds like an interesting concept, but it seems the only people who could play and be any good would have no life outside of this.
Sorry, I'll pass. I'm a serious gamer, but I also exist in the real world too.
Sorry, I'll pass. I'm a serious gamer, but I also exist in the real world too.
This summer... I will start playing EVE, and I'm going to love it. I've never gotten into the MMO scene, always thought they were dumb, and while I knew about EVE, I didn't know about EVE, ya dig? Damn, it sounds so amazing, I'm getting in on this shit. Thank you dyslikec!
Great writeup. As of now I don't have the patience (or time) for this game, but hopefully in the near future I'll pick it up. I'm going to bookmark this guide because if I had this when I played, it would have been slightly less frustrating.
But overall, I'm confused as to why this game doesn't really get as much recognition as it should.
But overall, I'm confused as to why this game doesn't really get as much recognition as it should.
I want to have the time to spend and play some EVE, it seems very different from any other MMO.
Nice writing.
Nice writing.
EVE is the only MMO that I play. I've played WoW and a few others and they're nice distractions sometimes, but I always go back to EVE. It definitely takes a certain breed of person to play it, but everyone I tell the lore to loves it.
This game is too much for me, but I love reading about it. EVE really is thecurrent pinnacle of MMOs. WoW is bigger, but EVE is a true alternate reality
Pretty good writeup.
For every 5 people who say that Eve is too overwhelming for them, there's at least 1 person who's now signed up and happily flying around Jita because of this article...
For every 5 people who say that Eve is too overwhelming for them, there's at least 1 person who's now signed up and happily flying around Jita because of this article...
I thought EVE was pretty good, and if you give it some time and pay attention it isn't that hard to get a good idea of what's required. I stopped playing after a couple of months because I didn't really do much social interacting so I got bored.
I guess it's a pretty good game if you get into a player corporation and seemed less demanding of my time than when I played WoW, but I'm wary of committing myself to any MMO these days.
I guess it's a pretty good game if you get into a player corporation and seemed less demanding of my time than when I played WoW, but I'm wary of committing myself to any MMO these days.
I just started playing this...I'm overwhelmed but in a good way. I'm ConsummateK we should fly together....or something. I'm looking for friends in the cold space of EVE lol >.>
Maybe I'll try playing Eve again now. The last time I tried, I had NO IDEA what I was doing. This will probably be a big help.
Couple things I'd like to point out if you want to take a moment to fix them:
The salvage you get from wrecks is used to build Rigs, not ships. Rigs are fitted to ships in Rig slots, and improve one aspect of your ship at the cost of something else. They usually sell for 4-30 million each depending on the rig, so building them may net you a bit more money than just selling the components.
Ships are built using minerals. You get minerals by mining ore from asteroids, then refining it - or, you can buy them off the market.
If you build anything you will want the skill "Production Efficiency" trained up high to reduce the amount of wasted ISK. Without this skill to 4 or 5, you'll usually make more money selling the raw materials than using them to build products.
Choosing a race doesn't lock you into anything except your general appearance. Choose the race with the appearance and backstory that you like the most - any race can train any skill, fly any ship, go anywhere in EVE without restrictions. You get a small head start toward your race's ships, but it's insignificant compared to what you'll be training on your own even in the first few days in EVE.
Faction missiles only differ from regular missiles in that they have higher damage. They aren't used for PvE very often because of how expensive they are. (10 to 1000 times what regular ammo costs)
Exploring low security (below 0.5) space is NOT the suicide trap that other players make it out to be. It is less safe than being in empire (above 0.5), to be sure, but if you keep your wits about you and make sure to run away from trouble, you can make much more money in low security space than you can in empire.
Corps in the "recruitment" channel are usually near the bottom of the barrel - they're often small startups without clear goals and with inexperienced leadership. You can find better ones by looking on the forums. "EVE University" in particular specializes in training new players.
And of course, my corp ("MEK Enterprises", ingame channel "MEK PUBLIC") is always open to everyone. We have access to fairly safe 0.0 space, plans for setting up a POS (starbase) in a wormhole system, and plenty of members from all professions and skill levels in EVE.
Wasn't expecting this to be quite so long. o.O
Best of luck
-Poly
The salvage you get from wrecks is used to build Rigs, not ships. Rigs are fitted to ships in Rig slots, and improve one aspect of your ship at the cost of something else. They usually sell for 4-30 million each depending on the rig, so building them may net you a bit more money than just selling the components.
Ships are built using minerals. You get minerals by mining ore from asteroids, then refining it - or, you can buy them off the market.
If you build anything you will want the skill "Production Efficiency" trained up high to reduce the amount of wasted ISK. Without this skill to 4 or 5, you'll usually make more money selling the raw materials than using them to build products.
Choosing a race doesn't lock you into anything except your general appearance. Choose the race with the appearance and backstory that you like the most - any race can train any skill, fly any ship, go anywhere in EVE without restrictions. You get a small head start toward your race's ships, but it's insignificant compared to what you'll be training on your own even in the first few days in EVE.
Faction missiles only differ from regular missiles in that they have higher damage. They aren't used for PvE very often because of how expensive they are. (10 to 1000 times what regular ammo costs)
Exploring low security (below 0.5) space is NOT the suicide trap that other players make it out to be. It is less safe than being in empire (above 0.5), to be sure, but if you keep your wits about you and make sure to run away from trouble, you can make much more money in low security space than you can in empire.
Corps in the "recruitment" channel are usually near the bottom of the barrel - they're often small startups without clear goals and with inexperienced leadership. You can find better ones by looking on the forums. "EVE University" in particular specializes in training new players.
And of course, my corp ("MEK Enterprises", ingame channel "MEK PUBLIC") is always open to everyone. We have access to fairly safe 0.0 space, plans for setting up a POS (starbase) in a wormhole system, and plenty of members from all professions and skill levels in EVE.
Wasn't expecting this to be quite so long. o.O
Best of luck
-Poly
Great article, but as you said it only touches on the complexity of Eve. I have played Eve for almost 4 years now and the thing that is keeping me playing is that there is always something new to learn / try. It is wonderously complex but not overbearing given paitence and a willingness to learn. Play it, live it, but be warned PIRACY RULES in Eve and the faint of heart better be adept at hiding or running if caught in the wrong neighborhood.
The article were some good reading. Having been played EVE for 4 years, I must say, EVE is good playground for playing out your wildest dreams. To be honest, EVE is pretty hard to get started with. There's quite a bit of boredom to live through, before the real fun starts. But it's the training time, what tests your suitability for the life in EVE.
By the words of one of EVE devs... "EVE is not cold and ruthless by accident, it's by design"
By the words of one of EVE devs... "EVE is not cold and ruthless by accident, it's by design"
to Chronic Logic.. Dude, you know nothing! I play Eve, and definitely DO NOT take it too seriously.. Its a blast! I got a wife, a career, a mortgage, and I play ONE computer game.. thats the thing with an MMO like Eve, its a great fun thing to play, but it isnt an X-Box game!
If you mean Eve players take it seriously because they put time and effort into it.. then yeah, fair point, If you mean we have grumpy frowns and sit discussing isk and skill plans all day, or the political machinations of teh empires etc.. nah, bollocks to that, most players just love to buy ships and blow shit up. Only thing is in this game, that can have DIRE consequences if you pick on the wrong people. Makes it all the more fun in my opinion :))
If you mean Eve players take it seriously because they put time and effort into it.. then yeah, fair point, If you mean we have grumpy frowns and sit discussing isk and skill plans all day, or the political machinations of teh empires etc.. nah, bollocks to that, most players just love to buy ships and blow shit up. Only thing is in this game, that can have DIRE consequences if you pick on the wrong people. Makes it all the more fun in my opinion :))
Thanks for the mention, Polysynchronicity!
If anyone is looking to give Eve a try, once you get past the first tutorial, look up 'Eve University' in-game or Google for us - we're a group of over 1,000 players from all over the world which as been going for over 5 years. Our only mission is to teach new players what they need to know to survive in Eve, though our forums, helpful members, lessons and so on, all free of charge and donated by the community.
If anyone is looking to give Eve a try, once you get past the first tutorial, look up 'Eve University' in-game or Google for us - we're a group of over 1,000 players from all over the world which as been going for over 5 years. Our only mission is to teach new players what they need to know to survive in Eve, though our forums, helpful members, lessons and so on, all free of charge and donated by the community.
Oh man, Thanks Polysynchronicity! I had no idea this was on the main page of eveonline.com, nor even promoted to dtoids front page haha, I would have definitely gone back and made some corrections!
I'll see if I can still do so, ive learned alot over the past couple of weeks since I wrote this, I only wish I could have made this article a little more accurate before CCP nabbed it XD.
I'll see if I can still do so, ive learned alot over the past couple of weeks since I wrote this, I only wish I could have made this article a little more accurate before CCP nabbed it XD.
I would like to say to dyslixec, thank you for putting such awesome mention and brief overview to one of my favorite games ever...
I myself am a proud pilot of EvE and have been for a year this coming May and I would just like to say to the people that have had their interest piqued by this article... Don't be afraid to try the game, even now with everything I can do and everything I've learned during this past year playing eve I'm still terrified by how complex is it and what the players in it have done and even now I'm still learning more about the game. But not only that I'm also getting glimpse into how some of the actual world works.
Even then despite how serious people can get about the game it's still a game and I find it fun. Give it a try, you get a 2 week trial, 3 weeks if you sign up via steam if they're still doing that, I mean what have you got to lose? And to be blunt and let the jackass in me spring forth for a moment... if you do manage to survive the first month or so you might actually grow some balls...
Seriously though, for those that haven't yet, try it you might like it. If you don't, think of it like the other games you tried, didn't like and felt like you wasted your time on, whatever.
Either way I'm gonna go kick some ass, have some laughs, and generally have a good time.
Be bold pilot. Even if you're not a pilot meant for this game, you only get one life, I say use it, you might actually enjoy it.
I myself am a proud pilot of EvE and have been for a year this coming May and I would just like to say to the people that have had their interest piqued by this article... Don't be afraid to try the game, even now with everything I can do and everything I've learned during this past year playing eve I'm still terrified by how complex is it and what the players in it have done and even now I'm still learning more about the game. But not only that I'm also getting glimpse into how some of the actual world works.
Even then despite how serious people can get about the game it's still a game and I find it fun. Give it a try, you get a 2 week trial, 3 weeks if you sign up via steam if they're still doing that, I mean what have you got to lose? And to be blunt and let the jackass in me spring forth for a moment... if you do manage to survive the first month or so you might actually grow some balls...
Seriously though, for those that haven't yet, try it you might like it. If you don't, think of it like the other games you tried, didn't like and felt like you wasted your time on, whatever.
Either way I'm gonna go kick some ass, have some laughs, and generally have a good time.
Be bold pilot. Even if you're not a pilot meant for this game, you only get one life, I say use it, you might actually enjoy it.
I have been playing Eve for 3 years now and it has spoiled me, everything else around pales in comparison. Yes it does require the 3 golden Ps Planning Preparation Patience but the rewards at the end of the road are unparraleled. An acheivement in eve is a noteworthy deal and the bulk of the Eve community does acknowledge your achevements. That said I was having fun with Eve right from the first day, I wasnt making billions of ISK but I was out there shooting ducking and weaving, meeting people, and making a small but steady income. As your skills, ships and standings increase the income gathers momentum and your looking at bigger and bigger toys all the time. It does consume a fair amount of time but I have 2 small children and run my own business and still have time to play Eve. Be a good idea if your thinking of playing and your married, get your spouse involved as well. As the articles state Eve accomodates a wide range of playstyles, and its ingame chat system outclasses any IM system.
I have been playing EVE for 1 year and 6 months, and im loving it, BIG TIME!!
If only this guide was made when i had started, would have been slightly easier, but still, nothing compares to being ass-whooped by a pirate to help ya learn, and quickly.
Awsome guide, and a link will be placed on my corps website for our newer players, and even our older players to read, as for some of these comments about eve, yes it's a long ass game, BUT.. i have seen websites after website of the same ppl complaining that games are too easy, to quick to complete, no challange etc etc etc, and on ,on and on, WELL WHY THE HELL AINT YOU PLAYING EVE!!!!!! quit whining about it, and play a REAL game, grow someballs as previously mentioned, actually play a game where you have to EARN your reputation, EARN your money, EARN your new toys, and not get given them like some spoilt brat saying "i want, i want".!!
And you never know, you might actually find a game that actually challanges YOU to thinking.
If only this guide was made when i had started, would have been slightly easier, but still, nothing compares to being ass-whooped by a pirate to help ya learn, and quickly.
Awsome guide, and a link will be placed on my corps website for our newer players, and even our older players to read, as for some of these comments about eve, yes it's a long ass game, BUT.. i have seen websites after website of the same ppl complaining that games are too easy, to quick to complete, no challange etc etc etc, and on ,on and on, WELL WHY THE HELL AINT YOU PLAYING EVE!!!!!! quit whining about it, and play a REAL game, grow someballs as previously mentioned, actually play a game where you have to EARN your reputation, EARN your money, EARN your new toys, and not get given them like some spoilt brat saying "i want, i want".!!
And you never know, you might actually find a game that actually challanges YOU to thinking.
People who say eve is overwhelming or harsh on noobs are the people that we eve players dont want in the game. We have a tight community which doesn't like newcomers so maybe it ISNT for you!
******EVE is NOT cruel and merciless!****
(.....unless you want it to be)
Hi. I'm a girl. I PVE, not PVP. I'm an EVE "carebear" -- that's someone that mines a lot and does PVE but not PVP -- and I love it. I'm a noob and only been playing for a month, and I have to say I'm glad I did not read this review or these comments before downloading the game, or else I would never ever have tried it.
I had hesitations but my EVE-playing boyfriend convinced me, correctly, that I have a rich sci-fi RPG available to me without any PVP if that's how i want to play it. If i had read this review or these comments, I would not have downloaded this game.
Ok. yes, this game is hard-core. We are talking DND on Mentats.
And yes, this game is unforgiving. If you like to cheet and give yourself god-mode, this game is NOT for you. Like another reviewer said, if you think most games are just too easy these day.... EVE is the game for you!
But no, this game is NOT cruel, nor does it require that you give up your social life.... unless you want it to be. You join a hard-core null-sec territory-taking-over PVP corp, it's hard-core and crule. you join some PVE-mission-running high-sec corp of people with a sense of humor, and off you go! have fun!
You can play this game for a year and not fire your gun once if that's your thing. You can PVE and mine like I do.
Yes, 90% of the corps are hard-core, mean, cruel, PVPers. But they can't convo you without paying ingame money for it, so no one bothers me for silly duels like they did in WoW. They leave cans outside stations begging for a fight... but I just fly right on by.
If you want a bunch of casual gamers with a sense of humor, you can join a corp of such! Just go thru 10 corps in the recruiting section and find the one corp that isn't cruel and mercilless and time-consuming and PVP!
Again, if you have a brain in your head, it's not hard to tell from corp description and the CEO's security rating and bio what kind of corp it is.
I joined a PVE and mining corp and I'm loving it.
The game was designed to be cruel, yes. Pirates can bother miners like me and can-flip them to taunt them into attacking. but it's *your choice* if you attack. and you know what? can-flippers are hated so much, and so many miners are alts for PVP chars, that you won't meet many of them!
Because this game IS unforgiving, it is NOT as cruel as it was designed to be!
Yes, EVE taunts, tempts, and at times if you're an idiot, tricks people like me into PVP. In fact, i have my first duel scheduled soon and a hard-core PVP-er helping me to outfit my ship for it. I never thought I'd do PVP, but.... this guy needs to be shot. By a girl. A noob girl. In a care-bear corp. I won't go into the details, but he NEEDS to be shot, LOL.
So I'm going to PVP with some advice and help and training. But only because I choose to!
If i die, I loose my ship. He loots it.
Again. My choice.
And... this IS the sort of game for married with children people! Because your skills level up no matter if you are logged on or not!
In WoW i knew a couple where the wife did a lot more work at home than the man, as is often the case for women. So she didn't play as much WoW. So she didn't level as much.
And he lorded it over her that he was levelling faster!
In eve... this can't happen becuase your skills always level up even while you are logged off. (this sounds wierd but trust me, it's great. You end up picking skills that you want to actually use in the game... instead of doing stuff in the game to increase your skills)
So no, this is EXACTLY the sort of game for married with children people, provided you don't want to do any hard-core POS warfare in no-sec areas. THAT's not for people with schedules. But if you don't wanna do that... don't join that sort of corp!
While WoW on a PVE server may be more my sort of *game*... I'm not a PVP person... I will stick to EVE *because* most of the people who play it are adults.
And because idiots don't last long in EVE.
So yes, EVE is a hard-core PVP game full of hard-core PVP people. but there is a place for all sorts here -- all sorts except idiots that is.
and all PVP is ultimatly by choice. You choose to go to low-sec where you know (if you paid attention to the tutorial) people can attack you. You choose to fight back to the very, very rare can-flipper.
One thing i like about the PVE in this game, is that it really varies. Sometimes it's too easy sometimes I barely warp out with my life. It's not set to the level you are at, like in Bethesda games. It's your responsiblity to survive.
So yes, eve is 'unforgiving' of stupidity. But it is NOT cruel! (unless you want it to be).
(.....unless you want it to be)
Hi. I'm a girl. I PVE, not PVP. I'm an EVE "carebear" -- that's someone that mines a lot and does PVE but not PVP -- and I love it. I'm a noob and only been playing for a month, and I have to say I'm glad I did not read this review or these comments before downloading the game, or else I would never ever have tried it.
I had hesitations but my EVE-playing boyfriend convinced me, correctly, that I have a rich sci-fi RPG available to me without any PVP if that's how i want to play it. If i had read this review or these comments, I would not have downloaded this game.
Ok. yes, this game is hard-core. We are talking DND on Mentats.
And yes, this game is unforgiving. If you like to cheet and give yourself god-mode, this game is NOT for you. Like another reviewer said, if you think most games are just too easy these day.... EVE is the game for you!
But no, this game is NOT cruel, nor does it require that you give up your social life.... unless you want it to be. You join a hard-core null-sec territory-taking-over PVP corp, it's hard-core and crule. you join some PVE-mission-running high-sec corp of people with a sense of humor, and off you go! have fun!
You can play this game for a year and not fire your gun once if that's your thing. You can PVE and mine like I do.
Yes, 90% of the corps are hard-core, mean, cruel, PVPers. But they can't convo you without paying ingame money for it, so no one bothers me for silly duels like they did in WoW. They leave cans outside stations begging for a fight... but I just fly right on by.
If you want a bunch of casual gamers with a sense of humor, you can join a corp of such! Just go thru 10 corps in the recruiting section and find the one corp that isn't cruel and mercilless and time-consuming and PVP!
Again, if you have a brain in your head, it's not hard to tell from corp description and the CEO's security rating and bio what kind of corp it is.
I joined a PVE and mining corp and I'm loving it.
The game was designed to be cruel, yes. Pirates can bother miners like me and can-flip them to taunt them into attacking. but it's *your choice* if you attack. and you know what? can-flippers are hated so much, and so many miners are alts for PVP chars, that you won't meet many of them!
Because this game IS unforgiving, it is NOT as cruel as it was designed to be!
Yes, EVE taunts, tempts, and at times if you're an idiot, tricks people like me into PVP. In fact, i have my first duel scheduled soon and a hard-core PVP-er helping me to outfit my ship for it. I never thought I'd do PVP, but.... this guy needs to be shot. By a girl. A noob girl. In a care-bear corp. I won't go into the details, but he NEEDS to be shot, LOL.
So I'm going to PVP with some advice and help and training. But only because I choose to!
If i die, I loose my ship. He loots it.
Again. My choice.
And... this IS the sort of game for married with children people! Because your skills level up no matter if you are logged on or not!
In WoW i knew a couple where the wife did a lot more work at home than the man, as is often the case for women. So she didn't play as much WoW. So she didn't level as much.
And he lorded it over her that he was levelling faster!
In eve... this can't happen becuase your skills always level up even while you are logged off. (this sounds wierd but trust me, it's great. You end up picking skills that you want to actually use in the game... instead of doing stuff in the game to increase your skills)
So no, this is EXACTLY the sort of game for married with children people, provided you don't want to do any hard-core POS warfare in no-sec areas. THAT's not for people with schedules. But if you don't wanna do that... don't join that sort of corp!
While WoW on a PVE server may be more my sort of *game*... I'm not a PVP person... I will stick to EVE *because* most of the people who play it are adults.
And because idiots don't last long in EVE.
So yes, EVE is a hard-core PVP game full of hard-core PVP people. but there is a place for all sorts here -- all sorts except idiots that is.
and all PVP is ultimatly by choice. You choose to go to low-sec where you know (if you paid attention to the tutorial) people can attack you. You choose to fight back to the very, very rare can-flipper.
One thing i like about the PVE in this game, is that it really varies. Sometimes it's too easy sometimes I barely warp out with my life. It's not set to the level you are at, like in Bethesda games. It's your responsiblity to survive.
So yes, eve is 'unforgiving' of stupidity. But it is NOT cruel! (unless you want it to be).
Ok i have been playing eve for only 9 days but i am enjoying every second of it. why i started playing was that i was checking out alot of trials for mmorpgs all over. the f2p ones like ethersaga,rohan,shaiya,and also trial games like warhammer online. none of them even intrested me for the whole day (or for maybe a few days).i used to play WoW but now im married with kids and i remembered how addicted i was to it so i didnt wanna start it up. the only way i quit was because i was going through hard times and my computer messed up on me (thank God).Now i knew about eve like 3 years ago when my friend dad was playing it and he had 3 accounts with 3 computers mining. i saw this game and was like the graphics are ok but i never saw him do anything. he was always just doing that mining or in menus doing stuff. so i thought it was boring and im like what kinda fag plays something like that. i was actually gonna be like screw mmorpgs because i couldnt find a good one that hooked me but i was very desperate when i tried the eve trail.The first day i was overwhelmed in EvE. i didnt know what i was doing i was just clicking and reading. there were menus after menus of text.i consider myself a hardcore gamer but i was like this is too much...but i was like i cant judge this game yet i havent did anything...everygame nowadays have boring tutorials so i stuck it out for like a couple more hours until my first tutorial mission. after i saw another ship blow up i was like cool and was hooked afterwards.
Actually learning the game is a gradual process..so for people who are new or thinking about joining dont overwhelm urself and take it one step at a time. there is a rookie chat so u can ask all the dumb questions u want and they respond to them too (i asked dumb questions that most other mmorpgs would pick on u for but eve community is modest). I will close out with this. If u are tired of grinding mob after mob to reach ur highest level and u are lookin for a game u can play casually or hardcore then this is the game for you..just my advice i have to add is dont quit before tutorial...stick it out!!!!
Actually learning the game is a gradual process..so for people who are new or thinking about joining dont overwhelm urself and take it one step at a time. there is a rookie chat so u can ask all the dumb questions u want and they respond to them too (i asked dumb questions that most other mmorpgs would pick on u for but eve community is modest). I will close out with this. If u are tired of grinding mob after mob to reach ur highest level and u are lookin for a game u can play casually or hardcore then this is the game for you..just my advice i have to add is dont quit before tutorial...stick it out!!!!
"Sorry, I'll pass. I'm a serious gamer, but I also exist in the real world too."
Someone said this silly statement. You don't know what a "serious gamer" is. Serious gaming is when you sit playing for 12 hours with out getting up unless you want to pee. There are up to 50,000 people on the server at a time all of us who have a real lie, yet we manage to do both.
Someone said "This is not a game for married people with kids". Not necessarily true but even if it is so what? This game was made for certain people in mind. If you don't like that tough luck, there always simple games out there for people with short attention spans.
So many people want instant gratification and if they don't get it they want to whine. One whiner said he doesn't want to wait a year to get a Titan. You won't be even close to a Titan in a year. So cry me a river.
This game is hard, unforgiving and challenging, and a blast for people with patience, and in my experience, people with a higher IQ. If you want to play something easy there is always WOW.
Someone said this silly statement. You don't know what a "serious gamer" is. Serious gaming is when you sit playing for 12 hours with out getting up unless you want to pee. There are up to 50,000 people on the server at a time all of us who have a real lie, yet we manage to do both.
Someone said "This is not a game for married people with kids". Not necessarily true but even if it is so what? This game was made for certain people in mind. If you don't like that tough luck, there always simple games out there for people with short attention spans.
So many people want instant gratification and if they don't get it they want to whine. One whiner said he doesn't want to wait a year to get a Titan. You won't be even close to a Titan in a year. So cry me a river.
This game is hard, unforgiving and challenging, and a blast for people with patience, and in my experience, people with a higher IQ. If you want to play something easy there is always WOW.
I've been playing since last June and just love it. The game's complexity isn't too much if you take in a piece of the game at a time. Once you figure out the basics, though, you can start to realize that the social element of this game goes much farther than other online games.
The game mechanics behind corporations and alliances is very detailed. The concept of corporations is central to the game's design. There is no all-powerful individual in Eve, either. You never have a ship that can't be trumped by something, so to cover your own weaknesses you have to have friends.
Also, the alliances formed by a corp (or an official alliance) creates serious relationships between players when you are away from the protection of the non-player-controlled security forces. You NEED friends, and the relationships between pilots, corps, and alliances is what keep the low security regions of EVE from becoming a chaotic free-for-all that isn't any fun for anybody.
Your choices have to be intelligent. You are not anonymous. You invest a lot of time into your character, so you don't want to just quit when you've made others hate you.
I've seen young people play that are impatient with the game. They want to be ultra-heroes right away. Eve is too much like a real world for that to happen. Become very good at anything requires a lot of patience, but for those that stick to it it has a lot of rewards.
You don't have to spend a lot of game time, either, if you don't want to. Your character is training all the time whether you are on or not. If you want a month off, set a skill with a long training time, take a vacation, and come back having learned something serious.
The game mechanics behind corporations and alliances is very detailed. The concept of corporations is central to the game's design. There is no all-powerful individual in Eve, either. You never have a ship that can't be trumped by something, so to cover your own weaknesses you have to have friends.
Also, the alliances formed by a corp (or an official alliance) creates serious relationships between players when you are away from the protection of the non-player-controlled security forces. You NEED friends, and the relationships between pilots, corps, and alliances is what keep the low security regions of EVE from becoming a chaotic free-for-all that isn't any fun for anybody.
Your choices have to be intelligent. You are not anonymous. You invest a lot of time into your character, so you don't want to just quit when you've made others hate you.
I've seen young people play that are impatient with the game. They want to be ultra-heroes right away. Eve is too much like a real world for that to happen. Become very good at anything requires a lot of patience, but for those that stick to it it has a lot of rewards.
You don't have to spend a lot of game time, either, if you don't want to. Your character is training all the time whether you are on or not. If you want a month off, set a skill with a long training time, take a vacation, and come back having learned something serious.
I'm a proud pilot in EVE for 2,5 years, my friend will be celebrating his 5th in few days. It's an awesome game with total freedom of doing anything you like or want to. It can not be compared to any other MMO, because it's so different than any other MMO. I believe everyone can find his own way of enjoying this fantastic game.
Internet spaceships FTW :)
Internet spaceships FTW :)
Very nice post. I've been playing on and off since 2006. I stopped again though, need to concentrate on work. I get addicted easily with EVE that's why I stopped. ^_^
Great guide! A few errors but all in all it gives an excellent perspective from a young pilot's point of view.
I believe that the greatest aspect of Eve is the fact that I am rarely the eldest person in the room! Other games it was rare to not be the old fart in the corner. With Eve, there are many people my own age.
Regards and happy flying..
I believe that the greatest aspect of Eve is the fact that I am rarely the eldest person in the room! Other games it was rare to not be the old fart in the corner. With Eve, there are many people my own age.
Regards and happy flying..
Very good guide, wish I had it when I started playing!
Very accurate as well. When the author says this isn't a game for impatient people, he's right.
I will tell you this though. The rush you get when you start PVP is addictive. I've been playing Eve since Aug. '07, and I still get that same rush when I engage a target.
For all you new players: Beware what you do and who you join up with. Scamming is 100% allowed and there are people who will paint a beautiful picture for you just to take all of your money and items away in the end and laugh as you whine about it. All your complaints will be replied to a "So you're quitting? Can I have your stuff?". If something seems too good to be true, then it is. Join up with Eve University. They will show you the right path and teach you what you need to know. When you graduate and love PVP, then look me up. =)
Very accurate as well. When the author says this isn't a game for impatient people, he's right.
I will tell you this though. The rush you get when you start PVP is addictive. I've been playing Eve since Aug. '07, and I still get that same rush when I engage a target.
For all you new players: Beware what you do and who you join up with. Scamming is 100% allowed and there are people who will paint a beautiful picture for you just to take all of your money and items away in the end and laugh as you whine about it. All your complaints will be replied to a "So you're quitting? Can I have your stuff?". If something seems too good to be true, then it is. Join up with Eve University. They will show you the right path and teach you what you need to know. When you graduate and love PVP, then look me up. =)
I have played eve off and on for years. I will be the first to say It has its flaws. However, It's flaws have purpose. Things like logistics. A large war takes high end logistics using combined efforts and countless hours.
But you have to understand effort and time make intense moments heighten. When your resources are limited each enemy kill (or fellow loss) so much more important ,it adds a tenseness usually only found in real life.
Another amazing factor in Eve is strategy. It's like a complex RTS but each pilot is a real living person not a mindless drone following orders. People make mistakes that the Flight Commander has adapt to or lose everything.
Information much like real life combat is Everything; in a battle knowing what your enemy has, where they are and who could possibly join them is so important.
(Often while listening to combat communication I think of a book I have read many times called Enders game. If you get this reference you will want to join immediately I know )
What other MMO lets you make decisions that can actually change the face of the entire game.
That one person can bring the arguably the most powerful entity (BOB) in game down with cunning, guile, and good old fashion espionage.
Most other mmorpg's like WOW you are just playing dress up. Trying to have the prettiest sword or armor piece that is useless when the next expansion comes out. With combat having no real risk except for aggravation of your fellow raid members and a few gold.
Despite all this the greatest flaw to Eve is not just its learning curve (which is insanely high See http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg) its the fact that its so easy to get stuck with people who just suck.
It is hard to find a corp that is good that will except people who are new or clueless. So my best advice is to make due learn everything there is to learn. Know your shit before you want to do high end pvp.
This game takes effort to be good at, It is like a real breathing world with an economy and a personality.
Well I rambled on enough I hope someone enjoyed my comment.
But you have to understand effort and time make intense moments heighten. When your resources are limited each enemy kill (or fellow loss) so much more important ,it adds a tenseness usually only found in real life.
Another amazing factor in Eve is strategy. It's like a complex RTS but each pilot is a real living person not a mindless drone following orders. People make mistakes that the Flight Commander has adapt to or lose everything.
Information much like real life combat is Everything; in a battle knowing what your enemy has, where they are and who could possibly join them is so important.
(Often while listening to combat communication I think of a book I have read many times called Enders game. If you get this reference you will want to join immediately I know )
What other MMO lets you make decisions that can actually change the face of the entire game.
That one person can bring the arguably the most powerful entity (BOB) in game down with cunning, guile, and good old fashion espionage.
Most other mmorpg's like WOW you are just playing dress up. Trying to have the prettiest sword or armor piece that is useless when the next expansion comes out. With combat having no real risk except for aggravation of your fellow raid members and a few gold.
Despite all this the greatest flaw to Eve is not just its learning curve (which is insanely high See http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg) its the fact that its so easy to get stuck with people who just suck.
It is hard to find a corp that is good that will except people who are new or clueless. So my best advice is to make due learn everything there is to learn. Know your shit before you want to do high end pvp.
This game takes effort to be good at, It is like a real breathing world with an economy and a personality.
Well I rambled on enough I hope someone enjoyed my comment.
All of you forget to read that this game requires no attention.
It's only boring if you let it be boring.
This game doesn't hold your hand and take you to Six Flags. It takes you to an uncharted continent. You and thousands of other people. And you have to fend for yourself, or team up with the others.
I have a job and go to college for computer programming, and yet I have time to play EVE.
When I'm at work or in class, I log in occasionally to change which skill I'm training. When I get home, I use the skills that I've trained to equip a ship and go do something. Anything. Hell, one of the most fun things to do in the game is take a trip to Jita in a fast ship with a big cargo hold and a tractor beam, and go steal from all the pirates trying to bait people. I've made over 100m in a night before.
And when I'm too busy to play EVE... I just train my skills. Takes no time at all. And when I have time to play, I've progressed however much time I was gone.
This is a game for people that know what kind of fun they want to have, not for people wanting the game to tell them what fun there is to do. Oh, and even for that last part, the game /does/ tell you all the fun things you can do that you can do in other MMO's, it just doesn't hold your hand through it. Ever. The Epic Arc and the new Tutorial Missions are the closest the game has ever come to it, and those are both new for this year.
It's only boring if you let it be boring.
This game doesn't hold your hand and take you to Six Flags. It takes you to an uncharted continent. You and thousands of other people. And you have to fend for yourself, or team up with the others.
I have a job and go to college for computer programming, and yet I have time to play EVE.
When I'm at work or in class, I log in occasionally to change which skill I'm training. When I get home, I use the skills that I've trained to equip a ship and go do something. Anything. Hell, one of the most fun things to do in the game is take a trip to Jita in a fast ship with a big cargo hold and a tractor beam, and go steal from all the pirates trying to bait people. I've made over 100m in a night before.
And when I'm too busy to play EVE... I just train my skills. Takes no time at all. And when I have time to play, I've progressed however much time I was gone.
This is a game for people that know what kind of fun they want to have, not for people wanting the game to tell them what fun there is to do. Oh, and even for that last part, the game /does/ tell you all the fun things you can do that you can do in other MMO's, it just doesn't hold your hand through it. Ever. The Epic Arc and the new Tutorial Missions are the closest the game has ever come to it, and those are both new for this year.
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