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ESRB using computers to determine game ratings photo

The Entertainment Software Rating Board is about to embark on one of the silliest ventures this industry has ever seen, as it's planning to automate the rating of videogames. Starting with XBLA, PSN and WiiWare titles, the ESRB is going to let computers decide what ages videogames are suitable for.

Publishers will soon not need to show their game to a human, instead filling out a questionnaire to determine how much sex, violence, swearing, gambling and foul bodily function is in a game. The rating is then decided upon by a program that replicates the "ingrained cultural norms and predilections of the everyday American consumer."

At least for the trial phase, the ESRB will be testing each game with real humans to verify that the computer got it right. 

Anybody with a shred of insight will already know how wrong this could go. For a start, the game-hating pundits in the mainstream media are going to have a field day when they discover that "computers are rating computer games," not to mention I foresee publishers contesting a lot of the "decisions" this program makes. ESRB reverting back to human testers in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 

Busy Job of Judging Video-Game Content to Be Ceded to Machines [NY Times]








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UrbanExile's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:07
UrbanExile
Just another way of letting people go. May as well just outsource the esrb to mexico.
tuoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:13
tuoman
Super Mario features grown adults murdering playful childlike mushrooms while destroying brick architecture with their hands. M for Mature.
UrbanExile's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:17
UrbanExile
It makes me mad anytime i see any kind of automated anything replacing people. No matter how menial the job may seem, it's still people that suffer. Sorry, i know this is meant to be a humorous piece. I'm just bitter.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:18
Tubatic
Do they actually test these games, though? I thought it was already a process by which publishers were submitting materials (like video content and descriptions) that was then reviewed and judged.

If its just metering criteria, I'm pretty sure a bot could do that anyway. Though, of course, having someone playthrough a significant portion of a game has always seemed like the best way to judge its content.

Heck, its the reason I ended up here... Bully for who?
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:19
KingSigy
Yeah, this isn't going to go over well. Some developers is going to lie through their teeth just to get a lower rating. Hell, maybe the PC will deem something acceptable for younger audiences. There is way too much that can go wrong.
Klarden's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:43
Klarden
I'm afraid, i can't let you publish that Bobby
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:44
Chongomaster
Thermonuclear attack initiating in 5...4...3...
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:51
LittleBigD
Man these guys at the ESRB really hate to work. How lazy can you get?
Chongomaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 08:51
Chongomaster
@Klarden

That actually made laugh. Well played...
Cheater2000's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 09:04
Cheater2000
Computer will prob give lots of AO ratings and cause massive censorship.
Faux Furry's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 09:19
Faux Furry
This is the only logical course of action for the ESRB to take.

After all, human emotions and other frailties of the flesh are why games and their content need to be rated, regulated, catalogued,categorized,editted, recut or censored. There is no greater thing to aspire to than the state of they who shall now rate: Perfectly immaculatly flawless if properly debugged and maintained.
OrochiLeona's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 09:23
OrochiLeona
@Klarden:
Quote of the century. :D
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 09:24
Excel-2011
I wonder if this will make the detailed writeups even more ridiculous. The regular writers now can't pass the Turing test.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 09:34
amtalx
Desptite Jim's complete lack of insight, this is actually a very interesting idea. Perfecting the A.I. routines will be difficult, but there's a lot to be gained here. Considering the leaps we've made with A.I. recently (Watson, anyone?) it's worth investigating. Lots of trials will be necessary, but as long as the project maintains a strict scientific approach, they may be able to reach a final product that actually works.
JawKnee's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 10:34
JawKnee
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but besides your own conjecture, do you actually have any evidence that this will not work? Your prediction about 'game-hating pundits' not liking this not only doesn't bear on whether this system will produce reliable (or correct) results, but it seems equally unfounded. Are you just throwing your own opinion around?
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 10:34
mix
Hrmmm, just add some string code to your game that makes the bot pass your game as E for everyone...done.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 10:44
amtalx
@mix: Then deal with the backlash when everyone realizes you tried to play the system. The problem with falsifying a rating is that potentially millions of people will play your game. It's a crime that's impossible to get away with.
ShawnKelfonne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 10:46
ShawnKelfonne
But will the computers be able to write up the hilarious ESRB content descriptions we all know and love?
Peter Armstrong's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 10:53
Peter Armstrong
I don't hear the media attacking Apple. iOS ratings are automated.
OverlordZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 10:56
OverlordZombie
I'm gonna miss the ESBR awkward descriptions :(
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 11:01
lewness
Game: Sesame Street, The Game
Scene: A human child hugging a big hairy bird
Rating: AO

Please enter next game
OmnipotentBagel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 11:55
OmnipotentBagel
From an AI standpoint, this is definitely worth pursuing. There's a certain degree of ambiguity in determining a rating (for example, PG-13 and R rated movies often have the same levels of nudity, violence, and bad language, but context can separate two scenes that are similar in raw content). If they can design a computer program that can accurately detect these differences, which are based heavily in emotional reactions and other forms of human intuition, that's a pretty big deal.

That said, I'd be incredibly surprised if the ESRB is the one to develop that.
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 12:15
Everyday Legend
Now, watch the re-release of EarthBound get rated M because it thinks Mr. Saturn is a titty.

Technology!
Beechbone's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 12:31
Beechbone
So, GTA 5 will be now E for Everyone?
Ncrdrg's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 13:32
Ncrdrg
Jim. That was such poor reporting. To see someone who actually bothered to research the topic: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/automated-game-ratings-how-a-form-will-affect-the-games-you-download.ars
Cossner's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 15:04
Cossner
@UrbanExile: What the f*ck does that mean?
HARVESTERFTW's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 16:22
HARVESTERFTW
You need the human element for these things. Computers can't handle this stuff well.
The Sama's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 17:33
The Sama
Aside from the ridiculousness of it, does anyone else think that the "ingrained cultural norms and predilections of the everyday American consumer" sounds like a really big brother kind of statement?
personz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 17:48
personz
Oh shit does this mean the ESRB is responsible for Skynet?
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/18/2011 22:59
M47R1X
Any Terminator game: AO for being too close to the true future. ESRB KNOWS!!!
Juwaan Armstrong's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 22:18
Juwaan Armstrong
Metacritic Dev Scores all over again.
Supaiku Supigeru's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/04/2011 15:45
Supaiku Supigeru
It seems to be working for the BCS...derp...
Yukichin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/07/2011 17:47
Yukichin
Ugh, please, no. There's enough wrong with rating systems as it is, much less if it's a computer doing it.
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