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ESRB defends its 'tough love' stance, 3D Realms scoffs photo

Sometime back in early July, 3D Realms found itself on the receiving end of a nastygram from the self-governing ESRB. The warning as it turned out, was in response to several infractions of non-compliance found on their website. They were swiftly given 10 days to comply, or face heavy fines of $10,000 per occurrence -- as well as suspension of ESRB rating services for all of their games. It was a pretty sobering experience, as Scott Miller, CEO and founder of 3D Realms recalled:

"To say I was shocked is an understatement. The letter came from out of the blue giving us only 10 days to comply and it didn't even occur to them to send us the correct graphics or even link to where we might find them. Boy, I sure do feel good about having these guys as our industry overlords. The Dark Side is in control."

The funny thing was (as Miller observed), the 31 infractions in question concerned games that were at least 6-8 years old, and whose descriptions at the time were well within the ESRB's minimal accepted requirements: 

 "Am I supposed to know that every time the ESRB updates its icons, I need to update mine? How would I know that? I wonder how many other developers are aware of this requirement?"

Catch the Dark Sides ESRB's response and more, after the jump. 

So what does Patricia Vance of the ESRB have to say about this? Something down the lines of "Sorry about those fragile feelings you have there, Mr. Miller -- but we have a job to do. Oh, and by the way, ignorance is no excuse, and nobody else complains."

"It's unfortunate that Mr. Miller's feelings were hurt, but let's be clear. The ESRB is the self-regulatory body for the video game industry. We were established by the industry and we simply enforce the rules and guidelines that the industry has imposed upon itself. The games industry determined that there should be rules with regard to the proper display of rating information and that ESRB should enforce those rules by notifying companies who are not in compliance. We created a standard notice by which to do so, and that's precisely what Mr. Miller received. 

"Unfortunately, due to 3D Realms' lack of experience submitting games to the ESRB, it would appear that they were unaware of the various industry guidelines in place and the consequences of not complying with those guidelines. However, that possibility aside, many other companies have received similar notices over the years and not one of them has ever complained about their tone. To the contrary, they are typically grateful for the information and being given the opportunity to fix the problem without further enforcement measures being necessary."

Does this sound like tough love to you, or has the ESRB started to overcompensate for being criticized as being a bit too lax in its early years? Scott Miller seems to think that the latter applies in his case. After all, they were called to the carpet (as he says) over questionable graphics in old games that they don't even think about any more. Perhaps this is more a matter of appeasing public perception of the ESRB, than looking out for the best interests of all involved. What do you think?

[Via GameDailyBiz -- Thanks to Topher for the pic!] 








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juniorlikespie's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 11:57
juniorlikespie
i loved how she said that 3d realms has little experience submitting games to the esrb.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:01
Maurice Tan
I tried to read through the whole gamedailybiz article, but all that came to mind was: There are still 3D Realms game packages in stores? Duke3D came out 2 years after the ESRB was born, so I kinda agree with 3D Realms that they don't have an obligation to change their ancient game packaging with every "update".
On the other hand, they could just as well just be one of many who received such standard letters, and be the first to openly whine about it. But what kid buys Duke3D for the strippers these days anyway??

UNESCO should just name Duke3D as cultural heritage imho.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:02
Gameboi
@juniorlikespie

That one had me pondering a bit, as well.
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:12
thisissami
ESRB are just a bunch of fucking idiots. and yes they're definitely overcompensating.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:30
JonDarkwood
Overcompensating. They'll end up being the RIAA of the gaming industry, or something.
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:30
BlackDove
Parasites.
dgenerate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:37
dgenerate
I really try to side with the ESRB. I think that accurate game ratings are a good thing that help people make informed choices blah blah blah...

But come on! Every time I hear something about the ESRB lately I just want to have it dismantled.
Rosseh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:47
Rosseh
At first I thought it was just them bumbling but then I read their response. What a bunch of idiots and they were especially snide about it. This whole thing is ridiculous. They're like kids (not 3D Realms).
What they're asking sounds idiotic. If they're 5-6 years old in their eyes wouldn't "the damage have already been done?"

I say we all chip in and buy an island.
Churchhills Dog's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 13:01
Churchhills Dog
As much as Scott Miller and George Broussard can be arrogant assholes at times they have a good point here. Much like the FCC's current crusade of fining things they never looked twice at before the ESRB is very much overcompensating in a bid for a better PR image. Most of it I think would tie into next years elections as they would benefit greatly by the endorsement of candidates. Being hooked up with the ESRB would be like getting a turn-key platform they (candidates) could fall back on when its time to address the issue of gaming violence/sexuality.
jerrt's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 13:04
jerrt
seems like sudden tough love with is just a little too fishy for my taste. shouldn't they have been given more time to change things.
bluemeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 13:56
bluemeep
3D Realms' lack of experience submitting games to the ESRB

Critical hit!
Brandon Undead's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 14:12
Brandon Undead
Super Smash Bros. is rated Teen for violence. The ESRB is gay.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 14:33
Aaron Mxy Yost
Just like with the Manhunt 2 AO rating, this is pure overcompensating.
Warning's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 15:15
Warning
I lost all respect for the ESRB when I found out a game like SSBM and Whacked have the same T rating.
dr3nd4r's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 15:28
dr3nd4r
I had enough of the ESRB

RWarrior1CO's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 17:02
RWarrior1CO
I've got issues with 3DRealms' inability to release a product, but this action by the ESRB strikes me as completely unnecessary. I mean, what are they doing here? These infractions, whatever they are, surely can't be that serious. Are they just pushing people around to flex their muscles or something?
entropyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2007 01:31
entropyman
I don't understand how they can force a company to "update" a released game- i am not going to to a store and see a dvd that was PG in a more lax period of ratings in the 70s and 80s and all of a sudden find it R or NC-17 on the dvd why should he game industry be any different? If they fail to have a renewable policy or make a "mistake" at the game release that is it- end of story- too bad so sad you failed.
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