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[Today's promoted blog is a special continuation of the discussion that Elsa's Tuesday post kicked off, written by MLG's Post Production Supervisor Adam Contini. -- JRo]

Hey, Destructoid Folks. I work for MLG, mentioned in Elsa’s recent blog about eSports, and thought I’d offer another viewpoint on the ongoing discussion of competitive gaming and its place in gaming as a whole. In the interest of full disclosure, I’m going to repeat that in bold, with caps:

I WORK FOR MLG. I AM THE FURTHEST THING FROM AN UNBIASED OR OBJECTIVE OBSERVER ON THIS TOPIC THAT YOU CAN FIND. MY INTENTION IS TO PROVIDE ANOTHER VIEWPOINT ON THIS DISCUSSION. FURTHERMORE, MY OPINIONS ARE MY OWN AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED BY MLG TO WRITE THIS.

There. Now, Elsa had a lot to say about the idea of gaming as a sport, and I have no intention of going point by point through her blog. The long and the short of it is: the post bothers a lot of people in the eSports community, and there are good reasons why, but I don’t think what Elsa said is really that much of a problem. Ultimately, a lot of people saw the blog as a casual dismissal of a movement that’s important to them by someone who doesn’t know much about it. And they’re right. That’s what it is. It is someone who doesn’t know a lot about competitive gaming explaining why it doesn’t hold her interest, and why she doesn’t think it has a lot to offer a potential audience.

And that’s all anyone can ask of her, or anyone else who feels the way she does. We talk a lot about growing eSports, but to do that we have to recognize that the greatest barrier to that growth is failing to listen to the very people who don’t get it... yet. In good faith, Elsa told us what this insane, unbelievably complex, and at times forbiddingly dense institution we’ve created looks like to her. It’s time we put our money where our mouths are, as eSports devotees. So, in equally good faith, please allow me to explain what my perspective is on this whole “are eSports really sports” discussion, as someone who works with it daily.


eSports fans... or CANASTA PLAYERS? You decide.

An old teacher of mine used to say, “dictionaries come after language,” meaning that our language changes, and we only learn to define the words we use after we’re already using them. Before everyone falls the fuck asleep, don’t worry -- this isn’t going to be a discussion of semantics. The point is, language is mutable, and our understanding of even a common word will change as we come to think of it differently. Whether we define sports as strenuous physical activity or something closer to competitive gameplay will all become moot as the term shifts and flows with the tides of public perception. Right now, I don’t care if the word sport means something that excludes gaming or not. Fuck the traditional definition. What I know is that the competitive gaming community has come to love the term eSports and use it as a rallying cry. It has united us under a convenient and easily-understood banner. There was never a joint decision to give this thing a name and stick to it, and in truth many of us don’t like or use the word eSports. But here is what I do know and care about: thousands of kids screaming for their favorite player. Thousands of kids sitting on dirty carpeting because there aren’t enough chairs and writing all over various forums about how they felt while watching an epic match. A young player who’d never played in North America before brought nearly to tears by thousands of fans he never even knew he had chanting his name after a win. That experience, the skill and the spectacle and the emotion of it -- that’s what many of us are now calling eSports.

The idea that what we’re doing is a sport has organically taken shape among us. Not everyone that works or plays in this industry feels this way, but the idea is there and people are latching onto it. Under that banner, we’ve come to believe in the legitimacy of what too many people think of as a childish pastime that grown men and women should have left behind. We’ve seen nerds become heroes, nobodies develop fans, and gaming gradually take hold in the general consciousness as something more than just dicking around in your living room. We have seen and experienced this phenomenon as it has developed, and we are immensely proud of what we’ve seen happen around us. This is why dismissing all of this as unworkable, illegitimate or somehow marginal is so frustrating, especially from fellow gamers.

I submit that the outcry from gamers who don’t yet (and may never) follow eSports, the belief that competitive gaming is not a sport, is, in its way, an attempt to give the type of gaming that they do legitimacy as an adult activity worthy of people’s attention and admiration. The idea that eSports is somehow separate from what the rest of us just call gaming might feel clique-ish sometimes, as though competitive gamers are trying to distance themselves from the gaming community at large by associating themselves with more typical athletes and sports celebrities. When Elsa, and the other people who have made similar arguments, say “There is no need for gaming to be ‘sports’ and the people that play games professionally are not ‘cyber athletes.’ They are gamers. Period. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that,” that seems to me to be saying “Hey, you don’t have to distance yourselves from the rest of us. Why are you trying to make yourself out to be something you’re not? Being a gamer is awesome. What.”

Hear, hear. Being a gamer is awesome. Which is why it is my pleasure to announce that no eSports competitor, competitive gamer, MLG Pro, or ambitious amateur would ever tell you that they are not a gamer. They also would not tell you that they are a “cyber athlete,” may that miserable collection of syllables rot in whatever circle of hell is reserved for foolish and unwieldy nomenclature.

Because the idea of gaming as a sport isn’t about being like the cool kids, the millionaire athletes, and the jocks. It’s not about the physical demands associated with standard sports. It’s not about separating yourself from noncompetitive gamers, and it’s not about trying to be more than gaming can make you. It’s about recognizing what gaming can mean. For those of us who love our competitive natures, gaming can be every bit as engrossing and meaningful as baseball is to baseball fans, and as lacrosse is to heathen mongrels who will never be loved. We don’t think of this as a sport because we’re industry professionals or insiders. We (and by “we” I mean “hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people around the world”) think of this as a sport because we’re fans. Because we’re fans of the game and we’re fans of the players. Because even the players are (with some notorious exceptions) fans of all the other players. Because when we realized that you can now go to certain bars and watch StarCraft 2 matches the way people go to sports bars to watch football or curling or what have you, we practically broke our legs running to the nearest Barcraft location to join in. Because even those of us who love traditional sports love this just as much, and those of us for whom traditional sports held no appeal have now found a world that offers us just as much joy. So it’s only natural, and frankly inevitable, that we as a community would - organically - take the term that we associate with competitive fandom and joyfully claim it for ourselves. Yes, we love this sport. We have this, now, where we didn’t always. Halle-fuckin-lujah.

We love single player gaming as much as any other gamer does. We would never want to distance ourselves from it. We all skipped work the day Portal 2 came out, just like you did. As a community, we agree on nothing except this: we believe that we are contributing something amazing to gaming. Something that makes this unique and limitlessly expressive thing we all love a little bit better - not by improving what it means to be a gamer, but by expanding on it. We’re not better than gamers, and we’re certainly not different from gamers. We are gamers. We are all on the same side, and there’s room here for all of us.

So on behalf of MLG, TSL, NASL, IPL, GSL, OSL, MSL, WCG, Gotfrag, The EG Master Series, Halo50k, Quakecon, EVO, Blizzcon, Dreamhack, Gamescom, every other league or series I’ve neglected to mention and every kid running a local LAN, allow me to say “Welcome to gaming. Gaming as a live event. Gaming as online tournament. Gaming as shared experience, in awe of human potential. Yes, Gaming as a sport. Welcome to gaming our way.”








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jobias's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 14:39
jobias
This post gave me nerd chills. And this was the best possible way to respond to Elsa and Jim: With inclusion and an open invitation to learn more.
danblu3's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:07
danblu3
Its like you took everything I wanted to say, made it make more sense and made it perfect. Beautifully written post.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:09
jawshoeuh
Nice post! This is how you state a case.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:10
Elsa
Oh hell... if my rambling lil blog in response to a weekly topic brought about an article of this awesomeness... then I'll take the insults.
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:11
Hugh G Rection
"For those of us who love our competitive natures, gaming can be every bit as engrossing and meaningful as baseball is to baseball fans, and as lacrosse is to heathen mongrels who will never be loved."

and with that good sir you have my respect. Bravo.
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:11
Darckcloud723
MLG is a thing...
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:13
Hugh G Rection
You did good Elsa, it is not so much who is right and wrong, but YOU got the conversation started, and for that you should be proud. Remember the opposite of love is not hate but apathy. If no one cared about your opinion then they would not have insulted you.
Gilgamesh1317's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:13
Gilgamesh1317
If only more people like you responded like this to Elsa in the first place, eh?
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:14
Epic-Kx
#TeamElsa.
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:19
Master Snake
If only I could fap this awesome blog... three times...

Also, #TeamElsa.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:20
SephirothX
This, right here, is why Jim's article needs to be taken off the front page and forgotten.
TheRemix's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:22
TheRemix
Glad to read someone sensible related to the MLG give their view on things, because my experience with the MLG has been greatly tainted by the online crowd. While some are a good bunch of folks, a majority of my games against people that claim they're with the MLG via message or a gamer pic, either end with them quitting mid-game and calling me a "spamming f****t", or in my loss in a close game where the individual would send a message along the lines of "you would never make it in the MLG!"

Even if those people are not officially with the MLG, they claim to represent it, and actions like these give the users and community a bad name. As far as I'm concerned, if competitive gaming wants to be taken more seriously by people not already involved, please take the time to explain proper etiquette, or establish some rules in that respect. Something that is very important about sports, is sportmanship, which IN MY EXPERIENCE is very much lacking when it comes to competitive gaming.
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:25
eduh
very cool post.
KtMack23's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:25
KtMack23
This is amazing.
StriderHoang's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:27
StriderHoang


But seriously, great response article.
MrFunsockz's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:28
MrFunsockz
What a great article.

I don't know what to say other than that.
Shaumarai's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:28
Shaumarai
@TheRemix, That is just the immature children, take anyone who has MLG in their name or using one of the gamer pics with a grain of salt.

Thank you for this very well written C-Blog and thank you DToid for publishing it.

This needs to be read by more than it will be.

-Shaum
meteorscrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:29
meteorscrap
This is what a proper counterpoint looks like.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:30
Mr Andy Dixon
Great counterpoint! It's awesome to see some level heads and intelligent posts regarding this debate :)
kalidanthepalidan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:31
kalidanthepalidan
Hooary for Elsa and hooray for this post. It's nice to see a well thought out response instead of the internet sewage we saw earlier.
spironredmage's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:33
spironredmage
Dj wheat could have scored a lot more by saying it like this indeed. i like him a lot he does a lot for competitive gaming. However he handled himself very poorly. Very well written, then again i think Jims and Elsa's post were well done also. Its always everyone else who fucks up the pie.
NukilarCommando's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:35
NukilarCommando
Well, it is nice to see a "professional gamer" not acting silly and stating "I AM PROFESSIONAL, RESPECT ME AND STAND BACK IN AWE". Or someone related to them, anyway. I think many "real sports" people are big dickheads, otherwise, we wouldn't have the "jock" stereotype. And the "I am a professional gamer" creeps are nothing more than jocks who play all day long.

Or something like that, I don't know if I made much sense at all.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:35
garethxxgod
Glad we finally got that levelheaded response. Nicely written.
fulldamage's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:40
fulldamage
Now this was the counterpoint I was waiting for. Well played, sir. I might come around to your way of thinking yet!
CaptainHowdy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:46
CaptainHowdy
I love to play fighting games competitive but still have fun. This was a great post, very well written.
LuigiLemonFan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:47
LuigiLemonFan
Very nice counterpoint :)

I have to say I'm still leaning more to the idea that eSports are eSports, Sports are Sports, eSports =/= Sports. Also... to be honest, I don't really have an interest in sports, but I've watched my fair share of professional matches and definitely enjoyed them.

Also, I greatly appreciate this viewpoint, and it really does seem like you understand the other side of the discussion: "that seems to me to be saying “Hey, you don’t have to distance yourselves from the rest of us. Why are you trying to make yourself out to be something you’re not? Being a gamer is awesome. What.”"
Ardent Snow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:50
Ardent Snow
I still don't think it should be called a sport. It's just competitive gaming. And having to try to justify it lowers the credibility in my opinion. Seriously, how can you put MLB, NFL, NBA athletes in the same category as a gamer. I love video games, and I love sports. I play baseball competitively and I think it would be awesome to play games competitively but if I was a professional gamer, I wouldn't consider it a sport. Thats just silly. Why can't it just be what it is. Vidja Gaemz.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:53
Jim Sterling
This is what we need more of. <3
Th908's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 15:55
Th908
Hi everyone,

I'm glad to see how cool Destructoid is reacting to this article, I didn't know this community but it seems like you're a good bunch. :)

I would like to ask for a small favor.Please take 2 minutes of your time and watch this youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkuGrI3JJ4U

This was at the recent MLG Anaheim a few weeks back. I want to give an even better idea how passionate we are about esports and why this subject is very near to our hearts

Thanks.
Ardent Snow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:08
Ardent Snow
I also feel that if we are calling it a sport based on the fact that there are fans that loves the games, and the players then video game developing would be a sport. People love the industry, people love the companies, and the people within them, and it's competitive. That would mean all business was a sport.
Kakashi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:10
Kakashi
I agree with this article. Though I still think gaming isn't a sport. Someone should come up with a term for it besides competitive gaming. Or we should just call it that: competitive
Kakashi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:10
Kakashi
*competitive gaming. Fuck this phone.
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:12
Hugh G Rection
I see this as the same thing that plagued Extreme sports. Growing up no one thought of skateboarders as "athletes". But now we have X-games, Street League, sixteen year old kids making millions off the sport. I'm glad that my kids will have those opportunities I did not and I can say that skateboarding CAN get you somewhere; an olympic medal; your face on a wheatie's box.

I feel it should be the same for gamers. Just because it is not main stream doesn't mean it is not a sport.
dr spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:17
dr spaceman
A good response, but still not enough to sway my opinion! :)

You had me going until this:

"Because the idea of gaming as a sport isn’t about being like the cool kids, the millionaire athletes, and the jocks. It’s not about the physical demands associated with standard sports."

Then why think of it as a sport? Sports are ALL about physical demands. Clearly, this is something different. Why not think of it as Competitive Gaming?

I'm thrilled that there is a dedicated group of gamers and fans who are bananas about video games, and want to be competitive and root for players, and to bring this to other people and get them involved, but being passionate about something doesn't make it a sport. I fully support your cause, and I fully support expanding the notion of what "gaming" is, but why use a term that just doesn't fit?
Cossner's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:19
Cossner
A single tear rolled down my cheek.
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:22
Hugh G Rection
@ Dr Spaceman

UncleReg's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:24
UncleReg
Props dude, well done.
HeaT1's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:31
HeaT1
id like to see eSports take a step forward into having people play as a profession, in the sense that an athlete is a pro(fessional).

this would allow people outside of the top 2 in the world to make legitimate money.

for example in tennis even if you go out first round you still make money, hence people can play the sport as a profession.
DrFeelgood's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:38
DrFeelgood
@Dr Spaceman,
Chess is a recognized sport of the International Olympic Committee ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess )
Lucky Pierre's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:39
Lucky Pierre
This is a great article that brings up legitimate points and should be treated as such. I still don't understand why people are so up in arms over the use of the word 'sports' as they relate to video games though. Just because someone doesn't want to call competitive games a sport doesn't mean that the individual deserves to have a legion of white knights ride out and show them that they are wrong.

I don't consider golf a sport, that opinion is probably one that people will disagree with me on, that doesn't mean I don't want to play golf or watch a game of golf on occasion. Why are people arguing over the use of a noun that may or may not accurately describe an activity.

I personally watched quite a bit of EVO this year, and I enjoy watching SC2 streams and LOL because these games interest me. I don't know if I'm willing to call these games a sport, but at least you made an argument that didn't devolve into calling a writer an idiot because they didn't do "proper research."
dr spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:41
dr spaceman
@Hugh

I had a paragraph typed out about Extreme Sports as well, but my comment was getting too long so I deleted it.

I think it's a great comparison to make, because it is a similar plight. However there's still a ton of athleticism involved in extreme sports, and a big reason it got popular is that there's something universally and undeniably exciting about watching a person slide down a 30 ft ramp and launch into the air. Now when will gamers start doing that? :)
RaginDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:46
RaginDude


I still fail to understand why people get so worked up over an opinion saying that gaming is not a sport...
Vallanthaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:51
Vallanthaz
It's not a sport. It never will be.

Sorry.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:53
killias2
But but but Jim said some people who commented on a blog about eSports were.. IMMATURE!!!

Therefore, eSports can never EXIST!!!

/sarcasm
barnes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 16:59
barnes
this is the way to disagree, not yelling at the other person, not cursing , not saying they are wrong, but seeing where they come from and trying to tell them how you think , bravo to both Elsa and you.Makes me proud to be a gammer when this side comes out.
TYFIGHTER's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 17:00
TYFIGHTER
Video games are not a fucking sport.
dr spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 17:14
dr spaceman
@Hugh
lol you could post pictures of half the MLB for the same effect. i never said they had to be in good shape...

@DrFeelgood
Yes, it is. Modern chess has also been around since 1475, gained incredible popularity worldwide, has had ranked competitions since the late 1800s, has structured national and international leagues, is regulated by an international organization, and submits to all the rules and regulations of the IOC such as doping tests. So it's not impossible for gaming to be recognized a sport, but just saying it's one doesn't make it so.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 17:19
Vanilla Gorilla
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

This makes me so happy! ^_^

Unification rather than vilification. If only this approach was considered "normal."
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/11/2011 17:29
flintmech
Consider my mind opened and my stance swayed.

Great post.
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