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ECA take down ESA. \o/
ECA take down ESA. \o/
@Cudgeon
ECA represents consumers, the very patrons who support the members of the ESA. Publishers would do well to remember that he who pays the piper picks the tune.
ECA represents consumers, the very patrons who support the members of the ESA. Publishers would do well to remember that he who pays the piper picks the tune.
@Cudgeon : Please, please, please, for the love of all that is good and holy tell me you're trolling right? The fact the Tea Party are against SOPA, shows how inherently evil SOPA is, that a bunch of crazy republicans can stop judging people's sexuality and say hang on, this is evil. It's not a case of one being good because the other is evil. It's like Stalin fighting Hitler, sure, Stalin was on the same side as Britain and America, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an asshole himself.
TLDR?
Assholes can still think other things are shit and be right.
TLDR?
Assholes can still think other things are shit and be right.
Let me remind everyone about how the ECA fleeced many of their members out of promised benefits and then made it difficult to cancel their membership. (And in fact, in some cases, acknowledged a cancellation and then went ahead and charged renewals to the former members credit card months later anyway)
http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=14121
http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=14121
@TheRedDevil
Doubtful, would be more likely if ESA memvers broke off from the ESA because of its support for SOPA. Really at this point the ESA is just acting as the middle man for companies who don't want to outwardly support SOPA due to negative PR but want to at the same time fully support SOPA.
http://www.theesa.com/about/members.asp
Doubtful, would be more likely if ESA memvers broke off from the ESA because of its support for SOPA. Really at this point the ESA is just acting as the middle man for companies who don't want to outwardly support SOPA due to negative PR but want to at the same time fully support SOPA.
http://www.theesa.com/about/members.asp
Well, I'm unsubscribing to the VGVN. I'm better off with an organization that's actually for the people. Maybe some VGVN members unsubscribing en masse will change the ESA's tune.
@sotanaht
I figured in this crazy internet age, anything over 2 lines is too long for some people ;) Glad you enjoyed it!
I figured in this crazy internet age, anything over 2 lines is too long for some people ;) Glad you enjoyed it!
@Daniel OConnor
Why Daniel O'Connor, you intelligent, sensible internet commenter you. I applaud your valiant efforts at crushing the modern evil of trollism.
Seriously, I loved your response. Especially the Stalin and Hitler bit!
Why Daniel O'Connor, you intelligent, sensible internet commenter you. I applaud your valiant efforts at crushing the modern evil of trollism.
Seriously, I loved your response. Especially the Stalin and Hitler bit!
@ Daniel OConnor
Well, thats because everything that has to do with the internet is something Tea Partiers don't really get and think it has a connection to the devil. And they also love to believe conspiracy theorists.
In the end of the day, I doubt that the publisher will shut down "the internet as we know it". Their targets will most likely be torrent sites etc. and sure as hell not someone making a youtube video of himself playing video game music (as some of the people against the bill claim) or to censor a blog like destructoid (as long as they don't keep posting articles that say how much better the pirated Zelda on PC Emulators looks..).
I think its way better for every honest customer, when the companies sue the asses of pirates instead of developing more and more annyoing DRM Software to annoy their customers. And I also think that pirates, after more than ten years of rapant piracy, deserve to get their ass kicked a bit.
But whatever. If anyone really thinks that the US Gov uses this law to "censor the internet" or to make the life of honest people a bad one, then they can also sign up for the jews did 9/11 and obama is an alien from outerspace theories. Might be true as well. But don't say it out loud, else the gov will poison your breakfast cereals.
Well, thats because everything that has to do with the internet is something Tea Partiers don't really get and think it has a connection to the devil. And they also love to believe conspiracy theorists.
In the end of the day, I doubt that the publisher will shut down "the internet as we know it". Their targets will most likely be torrent sites etc. and sure as hell not someone making a youtube video of himself playing video game music (as some of the people against the bill claim) or to censor a blog like destructoid (as long as they don't keep posting articles that say how much better the pirated Zelda on PC Emulators looks..).
I think its way better for every honest customer, when the companies sue the asses of pirates instead of developing more and more annyoing DRM Software to annoy their customers. And I also think that pirates, after more than ten years of rapant piracy, deserve to get their ass kicked a bit.
But whatever. If anyone really thinks that the US Gov uses this law to "censor the internet" or to make the life of honest people a bad one, then they can also sign up for the jews did 9/11 and obama is an alien from outerspace theories. Might be true as well. But don't say it out loud, else the gov will poison your breakfast cereals.
So.. I'm not going to knock these guys, cause I don't have a reason to but we also do need a consumer advocate group for gamers (they've been around for a long time, I know this, I just wish we'd hear about them being a little more vocal more often, and not leave it up to the spewage of angry gamers in comments and forums). However, I went to their site and saw their usual "I'm a member" gif roll image and began to wonder: How many industry folks on that (or any of their) gif rolls claiming their allegiance to this group are actually FOR SOPA. I mean, just because your a part of a group doesn't mean you want to follow everything it does.
@Cudgeon: It's looking like you don't actually understand the term "Conspiracy Theorist" as a THEORY is something that has yet to be verified. All of the potentialities mentioned regarding this bill and many recent events in general are FACT. Verifiable FACT.
I'd rather not bury my head in the sand and repeat the mantra "THE GOV WON'T DO ANYTHING BAD!"
I'd rather not bury my head in the sand and repeat the mantra "THE GOV WON'T DO ANYTHING BAD!"
Probably a good idea to post this.
Even though I'm an ECA member and I know that they'd never support SOPA, I always have this flash of "WTF?!?!" when I read about how the ESA supports it because I mistakenly read it as the ECA.
Aside from their unsubscribing shenanigans a few years back, the ECA is cool people trying to make life better for all gamers and game-makers.
Even though I'm an ECA member and I know that they'd never support SOPA, I always have this flash of "WTF?!?!" when I read about how the ESA supports it because I mistakenly read it as the ECA.
Aside from their unsubscribing shenanigans a few years back, the ECA is cool people trying to make life better for all gamers and game-makers.
Cudgeon is possibly everything I hate about the internet. People running around championing things they obviously know nothing about. I'd say before you jump on this "Tea Partiers always have bad ideas" bandwagon you might want to actually check yourself first, because you're doing pretty much exactly what they do.
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