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It's like Epic has this badass story worth telling, yet they can't step back from the imagine they have in their heads and not understand how people aren't getting it. It's like they can't look critically at their own story.
I will quote Cliffy B "I didn't always make these dude-bro games at Epic. The intent was to make Gears of War a lot more [like] Band of Brothers and take it a lot more serious."
I am left mouth agape wondering how they weren't even going for that and yet made a game that completely embodies it.
I will quote Cliffy B "I didn't always make these dude-bro games at Epic. The intent was to make Gears of War a lot more [like] Band of Brothers and take it a lot more serious."
I am left mouth agape wondering how they weren't even going for that and yet made a game that completely embodies it.
I think the Gears games has become alot deeper thanks to the books as well. Having read them i saw so much of it in the 3rd gears that im very hopeful to what the new one will be.
Oh and people that are going to complain about the game, have you at least tried playing it before hating on it?
Oh and people that are going to complain about the game, have you at least tried playing it before hating on it?
They've got a long way to go... Alien invasion stories have been done way better and if they really want to improve the story they really need a hell of a lot more than just story element with little to no cutscenes. I like when games do that, such as Dead Space, and does it well.
I dunno, I suppose worse stories have been told well, but Gears of War is basically "Cliffy B's 8th Grade Trapper Keeper: The Game". Don't get me wrong, parts of it are awesome, but it's always been more exciting than coherent. It's weird that they're trying to get us to care about the plot now, especially since the major plot points have been resolved. Unless of course they're tying a new story or even a new universe into the Gears brand, in which case I wholeheartedly approve.
@32BitSin
As someone who has played and loved all the gears games and read the books I feel compelled to point out you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
At no point have the locust ever been "aliens". The introduction of the first gears game clearly shows the locust emerging from underground.
I suppose it is possible that the "aliens" teleported their flying saucers underground and conducted thetor invasion from mantle to surface but nothing in the games or books points to the locust being aliens.
Also. There's plenty of cutscenes in the gears games, each game adding longer cutscenes as the series progresses.
I get the feeling you've not played a gears game. Ever.
As someone who has played and loved all the gears games and read the books I feel compelled to point out you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
At no point have the locust ever been "aliens". The introduction of the first gears game clearly shows the locust emerging from underground.
I suppose it is possible that the "aliens" teleported their flying saucers underground and conducted thetor invasion from mantle to surface but nothing in the games or books points to the locust being aliens.
Also. There's plenty of cutscenes in the gears games, each game adding longer cutscenes as the series progresses.
I get the feeling you've not played a gears game. Ever.
@32BitSin
I should add that its fine if you are less invested or not invested at all in the franchise. However, if that's the case, its probably best not to trash something you clearly know very little about.
I should add that its fine if you are less invested or not invested at all in the franchise. However, if that's the case, its probably best not to trash something you clearly know very little about.
@Bakewell
First of all, he didn't "trash" the series. he gave a critical assessment.
As for mine, you sound like a butt-hurt xbox fanboy all torn asunder with the fact that the world is slowly not giving a damn about your only two viable exclusive IP's anymore. Tough nuggets tween.
First of all, he didn't "trash" the series. he gave a critical assessment.
As for mine, you sound like a butt-hurt xbox fanboy all torn asunder with the fact that the world is slowly not giving a damn about your only two viable exclusive IP's anymore. Tough nuggets tween.
If gears has a really sad emotional part ill know how it came about. Anyway, the whole gears story line must be hard to work with being interactive and all. Still a fun game.
After freaking awesome Bulletstorm why would People Can Fly need someone's help. They can make better story than all three Gears combined.
@startyde
I can't see why you've made that assesment unless you're looking for a fight (sadly you won't get a rise from me)
Perhaps you should eat more fruit and get some more sleep, you seem very agressive.
P.S.
When making a "critical assesment" it helps to fully understand the topic you are critically assessing. Just a little suggestion, do with it as you please.
I can't see why you've made that assesment unless you're looking for a fight (sadly you won't get a rise from me)
Perhaps you should eat more fruit and get some more sleep, you seem very agressive.
P.S.
When making a "critical assesment" it helps to fully understand the topic you are critically assessing. Just a little suggestion, do with it as you please.
@Startyde
XBLA and XBLIC would like to have a word with you.
Just by reading your comment history, I can tell you're a anti-Microsoft hater and that you love your PS3. Sorry, you're no better than anyone else here. :)
XBLA and XBLIC would like to have a word with you.
Just by reading your comment history, I can tell you're a anti-Microsoft hater and that you love your PS3. Sorry, you're no better than anyone else here. :)
@32BitSin Are you saying that Gears should do more storytelling in the game engine and not with cut scenes or that Gears needs more cutscenes? I think it's the former, but I wasn't 100% sure.
For what it's worth, I think all games need fewer cut scenes.
For what it's worth, I think all games need fewer cut scenes.
@Bakewell
It's an alien planet called Sera. Regardless of what you say, that makes them aliens, as well as being aliens in the other form ; a noncitizen resident of country: a citizen of a country other than the one he or she is currently in.
I played the first game all the way through and half of the second. Yes, I'm not very invested in it. The narrative simplicity is rather disappointing and so is the weaponry, but the gameplay is fun to an extent, not worth 2 sequels IMO.
It's an alien planet called Sera. Regardless of what you say, that makes them aliens, as well as being aliens in the other form ; a noncitizen resident of country: a citizen of a country other than the one he or she is currently in.
I played the first game all the way through and half of the second. Yes, I'm not very invested in it. The narrative simplicity is rather disappointing and so is the weaponry, but the gameplay is fun to an extent, not worth 2 sequels IMO.
@32BitSin
If its an alien planet (or exo-planet) then surely we would be the aliens, no?
In your definition are we (humans) not the "noncitizen resident of country: a citizen of a country other than the one he or she is currently in."
Either way your point and my follow up question is moot considering much of gears 2 pointed to the locust being hybrid/mutated/experimented upon humans. The locust queen is a human.
I respect your opinion on the cutscenes and story but the enemies in gesrs are certainly not aliens.
If its an alien planet (or exo-planet) then surely we would be the aliens, no?
In your definition are we (humans) not the "noncitizen resident of country: a citizen of a country other than the one he or she is currently in."
Either way your point and my follow up question is moot considering much of gears 2 pointed to the locust being hybrid/mutated/experimented upon humans. The locust queen is a human.
I respect your opinion on the cutscenes and story but the enemies in gesrs are certainly not aliens.
@MonsieurMeu
This is totally true dude. We all haveour parts to play in the gaming circle of life, haha.
This is totally true dude. We all haveour parts to play in the gaming circle of life, haha.
@32BitSin
How does one make a game like gears without cutscenes tho. You cant really cram in Skyrim style dialogue bits. You could have lots of things going on in the background that you just run through, but those arent really interative either.
A game that is mostly about action benefits nicley to having some nice little scenes in betwen all the chainsawing as little rewards.
How does one make a game like gears without cutscenes tho. You cant really cram in Skyrim style dialogue bits. You could have lots of things going on in the background that you just run through, but those arent really interative either.
A game that is mostly about action benefits nicley to having some nice little scenes in betwen all the chainsawing as little rewards.
As someone who loathes "dude bro," football and Frat-boy culture, I am always wondering why everyone else sees "dude-bro" douchieness in Gears of War and I never have. Is it because they are grotesquely huge guys? Is because Marcus and Dom are in love with each other? I don't know. I never got the hate gamers had for the Gears story-telling. It comes off as snobby elitism, to be honest, from a group of people (gamers) who have no reason to be snobs. The Gears story is fantasical and cartoony, more Star Wars meets Dead Alive, but y'all make sound like The Jersey Shore meets The Rock.
Anyway, Gears 3's constant cinematic interruptions do grate, so if they can tell more story in the gameplay, as with Dead Space, I'm all for it.
Anyway, Gears 3's constant cinematic interruptions do grate, so if they can tell more story in the gameplay, as with Dead Space, I'm all for it.
@Bakewell
Dear lord... the invading force is of an entirely different race/species. That is the definition of alien. Get over it. The queen being human does not change that either.
@Themuad
I prefer games to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. I really want the kind of storytelling that's more fluid and natural; ie. if I need information I just need to ask or read it in game and talking to someone and leaving mid convo makes them question why I was walking away when they weren't done (which Dark Souls did rather well). I'm tired of the best action sequences or plot elements in games being cutscenes. I want to be able to perform in a game, not just watch movies in a game.
I'd love to see gaming where you can ask NPCs question in your own voice and move you body any way you want in a natural way. Until then, our games should allow a lot more body control for navigation and acting the way you would act or want to act in the games situations. Basically, drawing the player in with actually being a part of the world, rather than just viewing it and simply going from point a to point b.
Dear lord... the invading force is of an entirely different race/species. That is the definition of alien. Get over it. The queen being human does not change that either.
@Themuad
I prefer games to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. I really want the kind of storytelling that's more fluid and natural; ie. if I need information I just need to ask or read it in game and talking to someone and leaving mid convo makes them question why I was walking away when they weren't done (which Dark Souls did rather well). I'm tired of the best action sequences or plot elements in games being cutscenes. I want to be able to perform in a game, not just watch movies in a game.
I'd love to see gaming where you can ask NPCs question in your own voice and move you body any way you want in a natural way. Until then, our games should allow a lot more body control for navigation and acting the way you would act or want to act in the games situations. Basically, drawing the player in with actually being a part of the world, rather than just viewing it and simply going from point a to point b.
@32BitSin
Yeah i just think you are out for a completley diffrent genra to Gears.
Saying you want that sort of interactivity in a gears game is like me asking for inventory managment and item crafting in sim city.
Gears does have a story, and it is around you at all times. You over hear it while walking betwen gun fights during squad banter. But the focous is on the fact that i have a effing machine gun with a chainsaw on it. Having me go through 30 minute dialogue sequances betwen fights would be completley mental.
Yeah i just think you are out for a completley diffrent genra to Gears.
Saying you want that sort of interactivity in a gears game is like me asking for inventory managment and item crafting in sim city.
Gears does have a story, and it is around you at all times. You over hear it while walking betwen gun fights during squad banter. But the focous is on the fact that i have a effing machine gun with a chainsaw on it. Having me go through 30 minute dialogue sequances betwen fights would be completley mental.
@Bakewell
To clarify, even if the books or games said the humans on Sera were from Earth, then both are aliens. If the humans on Sera were also born there, the other definition of alien applies. Simple.
To clarify, even if the books or games said the humans on Sera were from Earth, then both are aliens. If the humans on Sera were also born there, the other definition of alien applies. Simple.
Well I've played all 3 games to completion and I can't tell you what the hell it's about in anything but broad strokes.
It's cool that they want to improve upon what they have but I find that despite all of this Marcus & crew aren't all that interesting and they stand out but for reasons that don't help give you any idea you're in for a compelling ride.
They're meatheads ladies and gentlemen, sometimes loveable other times forgettable meatheads. What really matters is that the Gears games are fun, they play well and have a surprisingly deep multiplayer. I know for alot, the Gears games being fun is all that really matters.
It's cool that they want to improve upon what they have but I find that despite all of this Marcus & crew aren't all that interesting and they stand out but for reasons that don't help give you any idea you're in for a compelling ride.
They're meatheads ladies and gentlemen, sometimes loveable other times forgettable meatheads. What really matters is that the Gears games are fun, they play well and have a surprisingly deep multiplayer. I know for alot, the Gears games being fun is all that really matters.
Though story wise I gotta give them props for turning Dom from a capable soldier into a broken man in the 3rd game. It shows it's not all rah rah rah chainsaws.
Though story wise I gotta give them props for turning Dom from a capable soldier into a broken man in the 3rd game. It shows it's not all rah rah rah chainsaws.
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I wonder what kind of fan base Gears would have if it wasn't a console exclusive? Some of these comments hurt my brain.
I'll admit Gears of War made me buy my 360 back in '07 after playing it over at a buddy's place one night over some beers. Had a freakin' blast with it. I didn't really think the sequel to it was all that great, and haven't even bothered with the 3rd. TBH, Marcus kinda started getting annoying to me.. *shrugs* Don't ask me why. I'm seriously hoping the new Gears game can get me back into the series. Baird and Cole were my faves from the start and as I get older, I kinda appreciate a good story more than ever.
I love Gears, it's the whole reason I bought a 360. But the story? It's been okay. Nothing amazing, but not terrible either. I'm glad they're taking steps trying to improve it.
@32bitsin
No offence buddy but you are a typical example of why most gaming communities suck mould covered dick.
You know little about the games but feel qualified to be overly critical of them.
Can you not accept that after only playing half of the games and reading none of the literature you are probably not best qualified to make sweeping, incorrect statements about them?
The fact you didn't think the game deserved 2 sequels probably should have been a clear sign to yourself that commenting on a 4th gears game was a bad idea.
No offence buddy but you are a typical example of why most gaming communities suck mould covered dick.
You know little about the games but feel qualified to be overly critical of them.
Can you not accept that after only playing half of the games and reading none of the literature you are probably not best qualified to make sweeping, incorrect statements about them?
The fact you didn't think the game deserved 2 sequels probably should have been a clear sign to yourself that commenting on a 4th gears game was a bad idea.
All about the multiplayer for me. It pisses over all over multiplayers, especially now. The story is, er, kinda, er, sci-fi which means it's never going to be amazing. Sci-fi never truly is unless it's one of the classics.
I never understood why so may people diss the Gears story. I've always thought it was truly an amazing story. One of the few games where I've actually beat the entire game in a sit in. While everyone does have their own taste in gaming, that shouldn't give you the right to bash a game you don't find interesting.
But on topic, I'm glad to hear their going to improve on its story telling. Will it have your basic mulit player also? Or will it be like reach and include new maps?
But on topic, I'm glad to hear their going to improve on its story telling. Will it have your basic mulit player also? Or will it be like reach and include new maps?
Surely SURELY the storyline is not be the reason people continue buying these games. I would venture to guess it is not eve a contributing factor. Perhaps if it's the power fantasy you're after or the screaming inbred teenagers in multiplayer one liked I could understand but this just seems a wasted effort.
Why even bother trying at this point? I am sure you could make plenty of money by halfheartedly throwing out a few more map packs and continuing pretending to be a development house while living of licensing fees made on your newest grey-brown abomination of a game engine.
Why even bother?
I suppose if thinking you have some ability to tell a story helps you lazy, self obsessed creatively bankrupt fucks sleep at night then sweet dreams.
Why even bother trying at this point? I am sure you could make plenty of money by halfheartedly throwing out a few more map packs and continuing pretending to be a development house while living of licensing fees made on your newest grey-brown abomination of a game engine.
Why even bother?
I suppose if thinking you have some ability to tell a story helps you lazy, self obsessed creatively bankrupt fucks sleep at night then sweet dreams.
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