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These hackers sure will have alot of non-existent stories to tell their non-existent grand-kids in the future of their past "grand endeavors" on the internetz!
@linfosoma, it's the mobile layout, they're probably just doing some maintenance and it's caused a little hiccup.
I agree with Jim, this isn't funny or frightening anymore, it really is just gonna lead to someone stepping in to start regulating these things and making it harder for regular people to enjoy.
Dammit, I hate the internet.
Dammit, I hate the internet.
"I wish the people behind them would stop if only for the fact that their bullshit could lead to some serious legal crackdowns on the Internet. I'd really rather the government and other authorities not become more interested in regulating the 'net than they already are, but this kind of crap encourages them."
Dude, Jim, I've been saying this for a while now. People keep claiming that hackers are fighting for consumer rights and online liberties and whatever, but they don't seem to realize that the government can end all that shit by pulling a few switches and all the hackers are doing is pushing them ever closer to doing it. It's not like corporations and government divisions haven't already discussed censoring the internet and limiting public access. All they need is a good reason to put them over the fence, and I think fucking over multi million and billion dollar corporations is more than good enough.
Dude, Jim, I've been saying this for a while now. People keep claiming that hackers are fighting for consumer rights and online liberties and whatever, but they don't seem to realize that the government can end all that shit by pulling a few switches and all the hackers are doing is pushing them ever closer to doing it. It's not like corporations and government divisions haven't already discussed censoring the internet and limiting public access. All they need is a good reason to put them over the fence, and I think fucking over multi million and billion dollar corporations is more than good enough.
This is really getting stupid. I'm really really getting annoyed the fact that these attacks are starting become extremely random. How is this any fun to attack companies that try to bring fun and happiness to others? Seriously, they need to cut the crap.
The good thing about the internet is that everyone has a voice. The bad part about the internet is that everyone has a voice.
It's human nature. A few gaming entities went after "hackers" for BS reasons, hackers came back and got revenge the same way gamers do when someone shits on gaming. Then, they got a ton of attention for doing it, so hackers looking to have some fun decided to jump into this new trend.
These people aren't "declaring war" on gamers, they're no different than taggers tagging walls up. Sure, there are hackers who are out to steal credit card info, but lately it seems like gaming entities are slacking in the security department and hackers are jumping on the opportunity.
Lax security and a huge amount of attention? It's like tagging the top of the Empire State building because they keep leaving the door unlocked. When hacking gaming stuff becomes old news, they'll move onto tagging other walls. It's not like hackers having been making a mockery of internet security for as long as the internet has been around, we're just giving them more of the attention they strive for when the screw with someone's site (for lulz, if you will) than anyone else is.
These people aren't "declaring war" on gamers, they're no different than taggers tagging walls up. Sure, there are hackers who are out to steal credit card info, but lately it seems like gaming entities are slacking in the security department and hackers are jumping on the opportunity.
Lax security and a huge amount of attention? It's like tagging the top of the Empire State building because they keep leaving the door unlocked. When hacking gaming stuff becomes old news, they'll move onto tagging other walls. It's not like hackers having been making a mockery of internet security for as long as the internet has been around, we're just giving them more of the attention they strive for when the screw with someone's site (for lulz, if you will) than anyone else is.
This is why we can't have nice things.
And @Sayword
Nobody "deserves" to get hacked. Thats just ignorant.
And @Sayword
Nobody "deserves" to get hacked. Thats just ignorant.
@grandmas boy I wasn't being serious I'm just stating what people were saying when psn got hacked. Wonder why no one says that shit when other things get hacked. :p
Yeah, I'm with you here Jim, I don't really think these guys know or even care that they're making the internet worse for us by pretty much forcing the government and the providers step in even more to put even more walls in between us and the things we want to do.
Proceedings on this issue are already seem to be going bad enough without hackers entering the equation, I can only seeing it being driven further into the ground with their presence.
Proceedings on this issue are already seem to be going bad enough without hackers entering the equation, I can only seeing it being driven further into the ground with their presence.
There are already bills in place to try and censor the internet as we speak, shit like this certainly isn't helping our cause. God damn, some people can be beyond retarded sometimes. Honestly, what has Epic ever done to deserve being hacked?
They are so righteous standing up for our rights by attempting to steal our information and then selling it to the highest bidder!
It's inevitable, someone will post a variation of this comment trying to justify what these morons are doing. It's sad.
It's inevitable, someone will post a variation of this comment trying to justify what these morons are doing. It's sad.
Maybe if sites like this didnt publicise these cretins so much they might not be so inclined to pull this kind of shit.
The coverage on this site in particular of the psn hacks was OTT in the extreme.
The coverage on this site in particular of the psn hacks was OTT in the extreme.
I will use a game analogy. Give people freedom to do whatever they want and the first thing they try is to see how many whores they can run over in a minute.
Unfortunately, people tend to do the worst things just to see how far they can go. And supporting them does not help to make they stop.
Unfortunately, people tend to do the worst things just to see how far they can go. And supporting them does not help to make they stop.
"But these hackers are good hackers" ...c'mon we know there's a few idiots here that are saying something of the sort
@manwithnoname that's why I am against the modding scene. People try to cover it up saying they don't do it for piracy but to that one person modding there is a 100 people pirating using the same hacking program.
About modding, I am all right if people tries to put more RAM, put a faster blu-ray drive or add a toaster to their consoles.
What I do not understand is why they need to homebrew on the consoles, if the PC is easier to do it and distribute what you have done.
What I do not understand is why they need to homebrew on the consoles, if the PC is easier to do it and distribute what you have done.
"I wish the people behind them would stop"
Except the chances are that whoever has attacked Epic is a different group of people (or person) than those that attacked Sony and/or Codemasters.
Except the chances are that whoever has attacked Epic is a different group of people (or person) than those that attacked Sony and/or Codemasters.
I agree modding something has tons of advantages but it also opens up the door to piracy and majority of people use it that way and that's why so many people got pissed at sony for going after geohot but in my opinion someone has to step up and that's what sony did.
I don't get the complaints about modding, I just don't. Modding has been around as long as there has been games, and now suddenly the gaming community is against it? Does no one remember how awesome the modding scene was not all that long ago?
If you didn't like to toy around with a Game Genie, Codebreaker, or Gameshark, that's cool. But you know what? Some of us did like to mess with our game's code to see what kind of awesome things you could do. Of course, the "fairness" factor of online play and the silly metagames like achievements killed off that fun, but give me a break. Saying the modding community is just a community of pirates is sad, the modding community has always been present. Its just another scapegoat for an industry that can't keep up with its bloated costs.
Its like all the nerds in the gaming community were replaced by the people who used to make fun of us for gaming, and can't see any aspect of gaming outside of their insatiable need for the next Call of Duty.
If you didn't like to toy around with a Game Genie, Codebreaker, or Gameshark, that's cool. But you know what? Some of us did like to mess with our game's code to see what kind of awesome things you could do. Of course, the "fairness" factor of online play and the silly metagames like achievements killed off that fun, but give me a break. Saying the modding community is just a community of pirates is sad, the modding community has always been present. Its just another scapegoat for an industry that can't keep up with its bloated costs.
Its like all the nerds in the gaming community were replaced by the people who used to make fun of us for gaming, and can't see any aspect of gaming outside of their insatiable need for the next Call of Duty.
It's like being part of a kindergarten class.
Government: "If you behave, you can have recess early!"
Hackers: "DICKS! BALLS! COOOOOCKS!"
Government: "SILENT STUDY!"
Government: "If you behave, you can have recess early!"
Hackers: "DICKS! BALLS! COOOOOCKS!"
Government: "SILENT STUDY!"
I don't understand either, why are they targeting video game company? I love Epic Game, why them? They done nothing wrong O.o
Every company should have security to prepare for attacks... but how can anyone ever blame the ones getting hacked? There is no limit to what is "enough" security, as hackers can eventually get through most anything after time.
I'm sorry but I HAVE to respond to this...
"Of course, the "fairness" factor of online play and the silly metagames like achievements killed off that fun, but give me a break. Saying the modding community is just a community of pirates is sad, the modding community has always been present."
When PSP hacks started, it was all fairly innocent. Then the mods to play ISOs arrived and PSP software sales dropped like a fucking rock. Post ISO dumping, one of the major games to see extended sales boost was a game used to downgrade firmware, Liberty City Stories. The fact of what the modding communities impact was on PSP was not theory, it was fact.
When PS3 got hacked, what was the very first stuff that was done? Piracy, hacking online leaderboards, dramatic increase in online cheating, exploiting and gaming the trophy system, and some hacks even effected opponents game saves. (suck as the infamous Call of Duty hack which would, at whim, remove all experience gained by a player throughout their playing history) I used to be all about the homebrew what what stuff it allowed, but look at the consequences to consoles AND they're users when it happens.
I don't mind if you want to hack your copy of Unreal Tournament 3 with a god mode. But once you take that copy online and use it to effect your stats, you're being a self-entitled cunt. A mental 5 year old who can't take the humiliation of having lost at a game. And frankly, the sooner we send these bitches to time out, the better.
"Of course, the "fairness" factor of online play and the silly metagames like achievements killed off that fun, but give me a break. Saying the modding community is just a community of pirates is sad, the modding community has always been present."
When PSP hacks started, it was all fairly innocent. Then the mods to play ISOs arrived and PSP software sales dropped like a fucking rock. Post ISO dumping, one of the major games to see extended sales boost was a game used to downgrade firmware, Liberty City Stories. The fact of what the modding communities impact was on PSP was not theory, it was fact.
When PS3 got hacked, what was the very first stuff that was done? Piracy, hacking online leaderboards, dramatic increase in online cheating, exploiting and gaming the trophy system, and some hacks even effected opponents game saves. (suck as the infamous Call of Duty hack which would, at whim, remove all experience gained by a player throughout their playing history) I used to be all about the homebrew what what stuff it allowed, but look at the consequences to consoles AND they're users when it happens.
I don't mind if you want to hack your copy of Unreal Tournament 3 with a god mode. But once you take that copy online and use it to effect your stats, you're being a self-entitled cunt. A mental 5 year old who can't take the humiliation of having lost at a game. And frankly, the sooner we send these bitches to time out, the better.
Im Only saying this for the sake of clarity but these people are Crackers and not Hackers. There is a big difference between the two. Hackers are people curious and creative they tend to hack away at software you know like most open source software that runs the internet just a few examples (DNS Wb server email servers) or your beloved Windows Linux and MacOS.
Crackers on the other hand are a bunch of opportunists looking to cause problems have a few laughs on you or make money.
Info: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/hacker-vs-cracker/1400
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker
Special attention to the Hacker (security) section
These idiots most of who are probably as good with a pc as the general public are called script kiddies. cause they take someones else work and run it blindly and usually it is they that make the 6 o’clock news.
So please people do not be as misinformed as the medias who just plainly do not care what they report, If in doubt how many false deaths have been reported and then extracted due to someone jumping on the twitter bus looking at CNN on that one.
The net has information go out and search it.
As for me i will go back to playing games and making sure the servers I operate always have the latest patches which would have solved in most cases all these issues.
So for those not in the know always update your computers damn it, I like repairing them cause that is how i make $ but for god sake not 3 times a week.
and damn it Jim is 100% correct when he says we the regular internet users will be the ones to pay for all this shit.
Crackers on the other hand are a bunch of opportunists looking to cause problems have a few laughs on you or make money.
Info: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/hacker-vs-cracker/1400
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker
Special attention to the Hacker (security) section
These idiots most of who are probably as good with a pc as the general public are called script kiddies. cause they take someones else work and run it blindly and usually it is they that make the 6 o’clock news.
So please people do not be as misinformed as the medias who just plainly do not care what they report, If in doubt how many false deaths have been reported and then extracted due to someone jumping on the twitter bus looking at CNN on that one.
The net has information go out and search it.
As for me i will go back to playing games and making sure the servers I operate always have the latest patches which would have solved in most cases all these issues.
So for those not in the know always update your computers damn it, I like repairing them cause that is how i make $ but for god sake not 3 times a week.
and damn it Jim is 100% correct when he says we the regular internet users will be the ones to pay for all this shit.
Btw has this site been hacked? As im sick of clicking on a link on this site and the Sport Uk website loading up.
Im almost sure its this site thats the problem as it only happens here and besides this site has always been slow and buggy while browsing.
Im almost sure its this site thats the problem as it only happens here and besides this site has always been slow and buggy while browsing.
Do you REALLY think the Govt will stop trying to control the internet just because these assholes stop what they're doing? Don't be naive, Jim.
@sheppy
Fair point, but this was always the case. The people hacking in CoD matches, while ass, are not that much worse than your average CoD online player.
You know why it never mattered back in the day, or at least mattered much less? Because online games had actual in game communities, unlike today's console experience. The communities were self policing because custom servers were the norm, and there was little to no emphasis on stats and matchmaking. The people who cheated were called out on it, and eventually the only people the cheaters could play with were other cheaters because the in game community pretty much cast them out.
It's not our fault matchmaking became the norm, pretty much killing any chance of an in game community forming and self policing. Cheaters have been around forever, but it never became a real problem until FPS games went full on mainstream and implemented matchmaking systems to keep everyone on an even playing field. For the fairness of stats, we gave up real in game communities (none of this forum based crap).
You wonder why PC gamers fight matchmaking so hard. Dedicated servers foster real communities to form and self police. If you want to mod, you go to a room of modders, and there is never an overbearing matchmaking system forcing you to play with random strangers every game who have no real social deterrent from glitching/modding your face in.
You want them to quit it? Demand that developers return to a system that creates communities, rather than segregating players. When there are social implications to cheating, cheating either stops or moves into a space with nothing but cheaters. It worked a hell of a lot better back in the day than today's "cheat and maybe we IP ban you" sissythreats. Today's "Keep it fair for everyone" attitude created today's problem with malicious modding/glitching by completely removing the threat of being labeled a cheater among your peers and becoming friendless.
Fair point, but this was always the case. The people hacking in CoD matches, while ass, are not that much worse than your average CoD online player.
You know why it never mattered back in the day, or at least mattered much less? Because online games had actual in game communities, unlike today's console experience. The communities were self policing because custom servers were the norm, and there was little to no emphasis on stats and matchmaking. The people who cheated were called out on it, and eventually the only people the cheaters could play with were other cheaters because the in game community pretty much cast them out.
It's not our fault matchmaking became the norm, pretty much killing any chance of an in game community forming and self policing. Cheaters have been around forever, but it never became a real problem until FPS games went full on mainstream and implemented matchmaking systems to keep everyone on an even playing field. For the fairness of stats, we gave up real in game communities (none of this forum based crap).
You wonder why PC gamers fight matchmaking so hard. Dedicated servers foster real communities to form and self police. If you want to mod, you go to a room of modders, and there is never an overbearing matchmaking system forcing you to play with random strangers every game who have no real social deterrent from glitching/modding your face in.
You want them to quit it? Demand that developers return to a system that creates communities, rather than segregating players. When there are social implications to cheating, cheating either stops or moves into a space with nothing but cheaters. It worked a hell of a lot better back in the day than today's "cheat and maybe we IP ban you" sissythreats. Today's "Keep it fair for everyone" attitude created today's problem with malicious modding/glitching by completely removing the threat of being labeled a cheater among your peers and becoming friendless.
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@OneNorm: And that's exactly why I have stayed as a PC gamer as there still is a huge amount of dedicated servers for the games i play
@OneRead You make a very good point there mate. Ive always thought online FPS multiplayer for console was a cesspit of everything thats wrong with online gaming. You just given me one more reason to hate it even more.
The day PC follows suit is when I stop playing online FPS games.
The day PC follows suit is when I stop playing online FPS games.
@RedOne
'Its like all the nerds in the gaming community were replaced by the people who used to make fun of us for gaming, and can't see any aspect of gaming outside of their insatiable need for the next Call of Duty.'
I agree with you on everything else you said, but I find this to be incredibly true. I think a lot of the problems in the game industry right now revolve around this crowd.
'Its like all the nerds in the gaming community were replaced by the people who used to make fun of us for gaming, and can't see any aspect of gaming outside of their insatiable need for the next Call of Duty.'
I agree with you on everything else you said, but I find this to be incredibly true. I think a lot of the problems in the game industry right now revolve around this crowd.
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