surf dtoid with 
Rising (10+)
People you follow
So, the engine that can run on iPhone can't run on 3DS? That sounds... inaccurate. But then, they're the developers, so they'd know best I guess. (Or they just haven't tried.)
You know what? Fucking GOOD that it can't run it. This just means we won't see EVERY FUCKING GAME on the system running on some modified version of their freaking engine as we are seeing now with UE3. Ugh. Sick of it I am.
I'm sure no one wanted unreal engine on 3DS so they are butthurt and keep saying the 3DS can't handle it, so they look cool. Also this was CliffyB's idea.
Why do people keep asking about the platforms we don't love?
There's nothing against Nintendo. I hate that people somehow think that's the case.
Okay, these two things do not go together.
There's nothing against Nintendo. I hate that people somehow think that's the case.
Okay, these two things do not go together.
I love how haters are gonna hate on one of the engines that made so much possible. Big surprise that a Nintendo system doesn't have the hardware necessary, though it's kinda pathetic considering the unreal engine can run on a cardboard box.
@Stigmeyer
Whay do people hate that game so much? Some of the best games this gen like Bioshock, Gears of War and Mass Effect use that engine and they all look fantastic
Whay do people hate that game so much? Some of the best games this gen like Bioshock, Gears of War and Mass Effect use that engine and they all look fantastic
If Capcom can get MT Framework to run on the 3DS, than I see no reason why Epic couldn't do something similar. Are they actually saying that a potential 150 million install base, isn't worth pursuing? It isn't worth you're guys time, to make a dedicated UE3 Mobile Engine? May be that say something about your Engine, that its not as scalable as other engines are? Whatever, I don't even buy Epic games on my 360, so I doubt I'd ever buy them on a handheld either!
It can't run on the 3ds because they don't feel like MAKING it run on the 3ds. Not enough fratboys to make it worth their while, I suppose. Their loss. Not that I want bulletstorm 3ds anyway, eww.
Good. We don't need a bunch of shit first person shooters. Thankfully the NGP can have it's use of housing generic FPSs and the 3DS can have actual innovative games
Bet it runs on the NGP. #justsayin
Also: IV Backstab MC
Epic just took a poop all over nintendos soft and vulnerable face
^THIS^
Also: IV Backstab MC
Epic just took a poop all over nintendos soft and vulnerable face
^THIS^
saying you feel something doesn't equate to it not actually working, at the very least they could have had a really small team do a proof of concept port of the iphone version of the engine, then again, what would they even put on the 3ds anyways?
Damn,yea mt framework looks just as good if not better than unreal,so it does seem odd...I know absolutely nothing about programming or game/engine development tho, so I can't say I absolutely sont believe them either
as a nintendo fan, i have to say, i'm not upset in the least. it is a little strange that devs are talking about not supporting nintendo, though. no, we won't support the console that is in the most homes, we don't care about those people's money. we only want cash from people who like shiny graphics. if that's the case, fine, you can't have my money.
@bobyoko Yea I agree, if they don't want my money, that is fine with me, their games haven't been exciting for a while now anyways. I will always have UT '99..
@Xzyliac
That struck me as contradictory as well.
Also Epic has the Unreal Warfare engine and I am certain that could run on PS2 level hardware so I rather they just up and say they have no interest in developing games for the Nintendo platforms rather than dance around saying because they are physically unable to. It is this two faced nature that gets PC players all up in their grill with Epic as well.
That struck me as contradictory as well.
Also Epic has the Unreal Warfare engine and I am certain that could run on PS2 level hardware so I rather they just up and say they have no interest in developing games for the Nintendo platforms rather than dance around saying because they are physically unable to. It is this two faced nature that gets PC players all up in their grill with Epic as well.
That seriously sounds like garbage, especially considering that several games that use the unreal engine are available on the wii and numerous other systems, and the kind of potential that the 3ds seems to have, But hey, What I do know, being a aimple gamer?
Oh well, it's not that much of a loss. As long as companies like Capcom, Platinum Games, and Konami show the 3ds love in the future, it's all good.
Oh well, it's not that much of a loss. As long as companies like Capcom, Platinum Games, and Konami show the 3ds love in the future, it's all good.
Uh, really? They got the Unreal engine on the iPhone but they can't get the Unreal engine on the 3DS?
Sorry but this shows that Epic just can't handle their own Engine. They can't make it scallable, they can't put it on a portable who isn't expensive enough. Talking about experience, while stating that inferior hardwares don't quite offer it, is like admitting that the programmers in their company are utter shit on manipulating the engine they made. It's just simple as thet.
Also simple, Epic does not want their games on Nintendo platforms. It may not be hatred for the hardware itself but they may not like the way the company works. Just admit the damn thing and call it a day.
Also, We won't miss muscles, guns and muscleguns on 3DS
Also simple, Epic does not want their games on Nintendo platforms. It may not be hatred for the hardware itself but they may not like the way the company works. Just admit the damn thing and call it a day.
Also, We won't miss muscles, guns and muscleguns on 3DS
I am not saying that there are not good games out there this gen that use it--there are and you guys named some of them. I am just not happy with a console generation that is seemingly so reliant on ONE company's engine. All of the great games that run on it still look strangely similar despite drastically different art direction which I find irksome so in the case of the 3DS I am glad it does not run it because it (hopefully) means we will see loads of different engines running loads of different games, each with their own strengths and weaknesses, but each contributing to the betterment of game development since these devs would not be standing on the shoulders of others to create their masterpieces.
Well thats fine cause costume game engines run better on the platform that they are on.
However I am sort of surprised by the randomness of this comment, not that I do not like Epic but why have they not made any games on a nintendo system?
They have had over a couple of decades to do so...
I agree if they do not want my money that is fine, I will be having way to much fun playing MGS3 anyway to care
However I am sort of surprised by the randomness of this comment, not that I do not like Epic but why have they not made any games on a nintendo system?
They have had over a couple of decades to do so...
I agree if they do not want my money that is fine, I will be having way to much fun playing MGS3 anyway to care
"The second Nintendo releases a piece of hardware that can run our engine well, we'll be on it like water on fish. There's nothing against Nintendo."
I'll believe this statement, when I see it for myself. Lets just see if he keeps his word on this, when Nintendo releases its next console. If it can go toe-to-toe with 360/PS3, or may be even better graphically, then we'll see if Epic really loves Nintendo, or not. What will be his excuse then? Hopefully, in the next couple of years, we'll find out!
I'll believe this statement, when I see it for myself. Lets just see if he keeps his word on this, when Nintendo releases its next console. If it can go toe-to-toe with 360/PS3, or may be even better graphically, then we'll see if Epic really loves Nintendo, or not. What will be his excuse then? Hopefully, in the next couple of years, we'll find out!
Sounds like politics and contractual obligations talking more than it seems like a real hardware issue. But you know what? Epic's only losing out on a big opportunity. That means someone else gets to sell studios on their engines.
Water on fish, guess he didn't want to say something racist like "white on rice", which is of course offensive to rice.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=408920
Read it. There's a reason that developers are hesitant about working with Nintendo. And as much as people wanna try and act like it's Epics fault, there's a reason that their engine is used so widely, and that's because it's reliable and accessable to a wide variety of genres, not just "shitty first person shooters."
If you only play games and don't bother to research the industry you claim to know and love so much, don't talk shit. All your doing is blindly sucking the dick of whatever group you're a defending.
Read it. There's a reason that developers are hesitant about working with Nintendo. And as much as people wanna try and act like it's Epics fault, there's a reason that their engine is used so widely, and that's because it's reliable and accessable to a wide variety of genres, not just "shitty first person shooters."
If you only play games and don't bother to research the industry you claim to know and love so much, don't talk shit. All your doing is blindly sucking the dick of whatever group you're a defending.
@PEICanada7
Then Epic will have their next engine out and claim that the new console can't work with it. Seriously though, his statement was kinda weird.
Personally I always find it sad if a big company doesn't support a platform (for - at least so far - dubious reasons). It might not be THAT much of a loss, but it's still a loss nonetheless and might actually keep some developers from working on 3DS titles.
Maybe it's just too much work for them, who knows ? If it's really just that they "don't like" Nintendo though, then that's a pretty stupid reason for a company.
Then Epic will have their next engine out and claim that the new console can't work with it. Seriously though, his statement was kinda weird.
Personally I always find it sad if a big company doesn't support a platform (for - at least so far - dubious reasons). It might not be THAT much of a loss, but it's still a loss nonetheless and might actually keep some developers from working on 3DS titles.
Maybe it's just too much work for them, who knows ? If it's really just that they "don't like" Nintendo though, then that's a pretty stupid reason for a company.
The Unreal Engine is a game engine developed by Epic Games. First illustrated in the 1998 first-person shooter game Unreal, it has been the basis of many games since, including Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex, Turok, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas, America's Army, Red Steel, Gears of War, BioShock, BioShock 2, Star Wars Republic Commando, Tactical Ops: Assault on Terror, Borderlands, Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Section 8, Stranded, and so forth. Although primarily developed for first-person shooters, it has been successfully used in a variety of genres, including stealth (Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell), MMORPG (Vanguard: Saga of Heroes) as well as RPG with Mass Effect, The Last Remnant, Killing Floor, and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.
Funny, I've played
lot these and they sure as fuck don't all look the same.
Funny, I've played
lot these and they sure as fuck don't all look the same.
The best iPhone gpu runs at 100-200MHz with 500Mpx. The 3DS runs at 200-400MHz with 800Mpx. I highly doubt that UE3 couldn't run on the 3DS. My guess is that the iPhone supports directx and OpenGL, where the 3DS has yet to.
@Shotgun
You are aware that the wiki page you are quoting from is talking about 3 drastically different Unreal engines, right?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Unreal_Engine_Comparison.jpg
You are aware that the wiki page you are quoting from is talking about 3 drastically different Unreal engines, right?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Unreal_Engine_Comparison.jpg
I think this is BS. If a fucking iPhone can run Unreal 3, there's no reason why a system with actual specifications can't.
I'm not seeing any reason why they couldn't get this running on a 3DS when there's a version for iPhone. Hell, you've got older versions of your engine, I'm sure someone could get one of those running on a 3DS.
the unreall engine is to cpu heavy, the gpu isn't the problem here also mt framework also ran on the wii and unreal engine 3 doesn't some engine's are just heavier than others.
"The studio VP stated that he doesn't FEEL the 3DS could handle Unreal Engine" How about you try, if the iphone could do the 3DS could as well...
@instigator
Obviously. The point was to inform people of the fact that gears of war and other current generation franchises are not the only games developed with this engine, and regardless of what is said, it's an important asset to the industry and has been for some time.
@Cryo
Point taken, I know what your talking about. I don't remember which Unreal Tournament looked just like gears of war. But less important than graphics is game play, and rare is it that you'll play a game that utilizes an version of the unreal engine that is crippled by bugs and broken mechanics.
Obviously. The point was to inform people of the fact that gears of war and other current generation franchises are not the only games developed with this engine, and regardless of what is said, it's an important asset to the industry and has been for some time.
@Cryo
Point taken, I know what your talking about. I don't remember which Unreal Tournament looked just like gears of war. But less important than graphics is game play, and rare is it that you'll play a game that utilizes an version of the unreal engine that is crippled by bugs and broken mechanics.
@instigator
Obviously. The point was to inform people of the fact that gears of war and other current generation franchises are not the only games developed with this engine, and regardless of what is said, it's an important asset to the industry and has been for some time.
@Cryo
Point taken, I know what your talking about. I don't remember which Unreal Tournament looked just like gears of war. But less important than graphics is game play, and rare is it that you'll play a game that utilizes an version of the unreal engine that is crippled by bugs and broken mechanics.
Obviously. The point was to inform people of the fact that gears of war and other current generation franchises are not the only games developed with this engine, and regardless of what is said, it's an important asset to the industry and has been for some time.
@Cryo
Point taken, I know what your talking about. I don't remember which Unreal Tournament looked just like gears of war. But less important than graphics is game play, and rare is it that you'll play a game that utilizes an version of the unreal engine that is crippled by bugs and broken mechanics.
follow
