Not suprised. The mainstream console gamer will put up with anything as long as it has guns in it and it looks/plays like Gears of War, Halo or Call of Duty.

How the hell did Kane and Lynch 2 sell that much? Did everyone have a bad case of the shits or something?

I agree, it's f***ed up. I didn't buy either because Kane & Lynch 2 was an absolute mess and the demo for Enslaved really didn't do anything for me.

People say all the time that we're preventing creativity in the industry by buying Call of Duty and Guitar Hero games year after year. I think the real problem isn't that we're buying the rehashed games, but that we AREN'T buying the games that try to do something even marginally different.

/facepalm.

Oh well, at least SOME of us know a good game when it smacks you in the face.

A couple of things:

1. Didnt recent Guitar Hero games sell pretty poorly actually?

2. Didnt you guys need to buy a copy of K&L2 for the review?

3. Is 460k copies really that bad for a original Ip? I mean the Armored Core franchise never went higher than 400k for any of its games and that series has like 13 installments as of now.

ACK, MY SOUL!!!

I...damn. I loved enslaved, would've expected way more people to have picked it up but yeah...

Shit is fucked.

"We complain about sequels and rehashes, we whine about publishers not putting out original content...."

Every fucker whines when elements of sequels get changed aswell. There really is no pleasing anyone.

A lot of people only want innovation on their terms. Change to much of an existing franchise or create a new one and most people just aren't interested.

I'm proud to say I am one the 460,00 who bought Enslaved and enjoyed the hell out of it and hope Ninja Theroy the best luck in their next game

@Malfegor It's bad if the game that sold 2 million copies is a piece of shit and the game that sells 460k is not a piece of shit. So yeah, it's bad that Kane and Lynch 2 sold that much.

Some people have no taste for greatness.

Just goes to show how far a very well invested advertisement campaign will get you.


You should tell Dale North to play this game, just tell him that one of the characters is some angsty Japanese teenage boy who has mystical powers he doesnt understand. Who also speaks to a magic floating cat that only he can see. and the cat also has giant breasts.

while I agree with Kane and Lynch I just can´t force myself to pass the second chapter of Enslaved.. that game it´s just a big ZZZzzzzZzzzz for me

wow jim, you are REALLY pissed off.

Jim, your opinions mean nothing. Kane and Lynch wasnt shit and the worst game. Deadly Premonition was. And what did you give that, for god sake, just so you could get recognition.

Honestly, I'm all for originality, but Enslaved wasn't even that good. The controls are loose, the combat is incredibly repetitive with 3-4 combos with 3-4 enemy types repeated for 8 hours, the puzzles are rudimentary and simple, and the framerate drops constantly. It's a 7/10 game at best, and I don't blame anybody looking at it and saying "8 hour average game with zero replay value? Not worth $60 bucks"

I enjoyed Enslaved, but I think calling it one of the most well-crafted games of last year is a bit of a stretch. Still, its a shame it didn't do better.

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Get over yourselves. Kayne and Lynch was not that bad. Maybe not worth $60 but not the worst game of the year by far. Go into a gamestop, close your eyes, spin around and point at the Wii games. Now open your eyes. That game is worse than Kayne and Lynch.

I loved Enslaved, my first game for my PS3.

i bought both. am i a bad person?

Fuck that. Fuck that to death. Enslaved is a fantastic fucking game. PLUS, it takes longer than 3 hours to beat.

I guess this means Kane & Lynch 2 is the better game.

trolololololololo lololo trololololololololololo hahahahaha!

Seriously though. I don't care for either of those games. I must be Satan and Jesus combined.

:'(

Eh, didn't buy either one so no harm or good from me. I rented both, Kane and Lynch 2 was horrible and Enslaved... I just lost interest pretty quickly.

@Lenigod Well written, involving and genuinely exciting sludge, more like it. Really, I don't get many people's complaints about it. For the setting, the environments were awesomely diverse, the combat was quick and had a bit of impact, even if it didn't have much depth to go with it, and simply the different scenarios were awesome.

Plus, probably the best music I've heard in a Western game outside of Diablo.

I am damn sad that Enslaved was outsold by such a game as Kane & Lynch 2. Not to mention flabbergasted. I know Enslaved didn't sell great and is seemingly hard to market to the trigger happy adrenaline-junkie that makes up a great degree of western gamers. But seriously, Kain & Lynch 2?

@Kranitoko What the hell did you smoke? Kayne and Lynch was a rusty piece of shit coming out of a dead cat's ass. I'll let you have your opinion, but your an idiot if you think that it was a good game. Jim is doing his job, so F off.

I'm playing through Enslaved right now, but it's a rental. Guess I'm part of the problem :-D

I've never played a Kane & Lynch game, though.

Enslaved was very average. 400k is a good mark for it. But theres no excuse for K&L2 to sell that well. Its an insult.

While Kane & Lynch 2 had it's faults, I enjoyed it and hope that they get to perfect the concept with a third game. Enslaved isn't as original as you seem to think it is, but I really liked that game as well, so here's hoping Enslaved 2 sells better.

Jim, you know I love you, right? Enslaved sucked major donkey balls. I hate that game with so much passion. Style over substance.

You should note that Kane and Lynch was featured in one of the Christmas Steam sales for I think about $7.50. I'm sure a lot of people bought it then out of morbid curiosity.

That's a crime it really is.

Seriously Kane and lynch 2 looked like such a halfass game I never bothered with it.

still in the case of enslaved it might be a case of karma coming back to bite them in the ass, they can't blame Sony or the ps3 this time can they. Heavenly sword broke the 2 million mark,as an exclusive to boot that's starting to look like high hopes for enslaved.

but that still doesn't explain Kain and lynch, every review I read said the same thing, broken boring uninspired garbage.

God dammit this is gonna encourage square enix to make more of this crap. Seriously who bought Kane and lynch?

( For the record I don't own enslaved as my backlog is full but I was under the impression it was doing alot better than that, definitely getting it now.)

Yea this pretty fuck sad. Enslaved was pretty damn awesome.. most gamers don't give a fuck . They got their call of duty. Who cares. Fuck everything else. Bobby Kotick wants my money so let's give to him. Him being rich is more important than have new and awesome game

I thought Kane & Lynch 2 was far and away a better game than the first. I'm amazed a second game exists due to how bad the first was.

Enslaved I haven't gotten to but Kane & Lynch 2 which admittedly I bought cheap drew me in because of it's co-op friendly ways. More games need co-op in their campaigns.

if you bought kane and lynch 2 youre a simple fuck.

Wow.

I bought Enslaved, did YOU?

I liked both games but I bought Enslaved for $60 on 360 (still quite cheap in AUS) and K&L2 for $5 on Steam

Remember the Community Manager from Treyarch? The one you blasted for voicing an opinion? Yeah, you just completely agreed with what he said, by the way.

Great, now Jims all pissed at us. I didn't even buy KaL2.

If you can find either game for about $15 they are both a 10.

"The mainstream console gamer..."

i dont think we can put all blame on the mainstream. The "hardcore" gamers (blogger/message boards) are really failing at this. Many discussions concerning this game devolve into proclaiming Enslaved horrible.

There is nothing horrible about the game. I can only recall one negative during the cave/boat level where sound synch was off key.

It seems all the Devil May Crybabies successfully managed to convince gamers that the game is shit.

Next you see gamers saying "im waiting for 20 dollars" etc. THE GAME WAS 25 dollars for freak sake!

Hey Man, I bought Enslaved and not K&L 2.

Fucking empty comments.

Anyways, I still want to try Kane And Lynch 2, just because I enjoyed the demo so much. I've missed my chance on trying to pick it up for 5 bucks twice now (Both Steam Sales at the tail end of the year), so I guess I could just wait for a Spring Sale.

I never expected Enslaved to do well at all. You can't sell a game nobody knows fuck all about. 400k for shit marketing is a godsend. I'll have to pick it up myself sometime soon as well, as I also enjoyed the demo for that one.

Whoa there haws. Enslaved was by no means that fucking awesome. I played it and was not all that blown away. K&L2 may have sucked, but I completed it. It is getting a bit tiring for the enthusiast press to constantly suck the dicks of games like Vanquish and Enslaved; they were not all that great. Be honest.

I want Enslaved, though I'm bothered by the IMO poor character design. I'm part of the problem there for sure. At least I didn't even consider buying Kane & Lynch 2.

I bought two copies of Enslaved and a copy of Majin, did not buy Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, Rock Band 3, Kane and Lynch, or any ImagineZ games. This year. Maybe 2011 will be the year I'll buy a dozen Imagine Monkey Rabiez games to make up for it.

Bought enslaved
totally loved it (although it was a bit too easy, just gime heavenly sword 2 :D)

You really hate K&L2 Jim.

I think that you have to consider something: K&L 2 went on sale at Steam for only $5. Also, it's a 3 platform title while Enslaved is on X360 and PS3 only.

They were both fun rentals but neither had enough content to buy. In fact I'm surprised either sold this much. Enslaved certainly deserves a sequel as it really was unique with an excellent story.