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ELSPA shoots down the '90 percent' R4 story photo

We all knew something was up with a recent quote by John Hillier, Manager of ELSPA's Intellectual Property Crime Unit. The Sunday Post, a Scottish newspaper, quoted Hillier saying "In America it's thought 90 percent of Nintendo users are playing pirated games because of R4s.” Now the ELSPA says that the Sunday Post article contains false quotes.

A spokesperson for ELSPA told GamesIndustry.biz that, "[John] didn't quote The Sunday Post on any figures whatsoever. ELSPA would certainly never presume to comment about America or anywhere else outside of the UK."

It seems that the Sunday Post article is a mishmash of a real conversation with Hillier, facts from a Singaporean article, and false quotes. Or that's that the ELSPA says.

"The quotes from The Sunday Post were ascribed to his name from another article which originates from a website in Singapore. This, it appears, is where The Sunday Post first found out about the supposed R4 situation and for some reason unknown to John have quoted him on what this article said."

The spokesperson also added that Nintendo views the reported facts in the article as false.

"As far as Nintendo are concerned, the facts are completely spurious."

I think that a comment by Destructoid reader DeusPayne sums things up well: "I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that even 90% of DS owners KNOW what an R4 is, let alone own one."

You guys are too smart for this crap, right? 


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Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:34
Shin Oni
that was already hard to believe when DS systems fly off the shelf along with games and as stated, half of the people buying DS Lites don't even know of R4. let along games even being possible to download on a DS cartridge.
outrage's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:35
outrage
Fox News what?
Sam Spectre's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:39
Sam Spectre
I doubt even 9%
Video Cognito's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:46
Video Cognito
Yeah, there was probably a decimal point out of place.
supermetroid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:47
supermetroid
Ahahahahahahahah. Ha.
Pwnt.

There's something about made-up statistics that makes me really annoyed.

/prepares for onslaught of sarcastic statistics jokes
/tries saying that 10 times fast
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:47
Neonie
Told you that that figure was bull shit :)
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:50
Samit Sarkar
90% of all statistics are made up, on the spot, by the person who cites them.
Psywolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 19:57
Psywolf
even if 90% of americans owned an r4 doesn't mean they know how to use them

almost all older people that see me playing mine ask me if i have the brain training games and kids just like any game

and when i tell them i'm not playing a game i'm reading a comic they say "you can do that? how?"

so i explain everything it can do and tell them how and they get really interested but mostly say "i'd never understand all that if i buy one can you just do it for me"
coleadams's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 20:18
coleadams
All anyone would need to do is include the Whitehouse in the address and your e-mail would automatically be ¡°lost.¡±
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Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 20:45
Cowboy TTop
We all knew it was bull, and its good to see that when we are right and kick up a fuss, some of these muppets recheck themselves, for their credibilty is at stake.

I'm still gonna buy me an R4 though, as I really want to use Colors ap on my DS. Its amazing some of the artwork people have made via this little program (that's right, it lets you draw and upload your DS work online). Result.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 20:47
DeusPayne
Zomg. I'm famous. Too bad my clog isn't a little more interesting to link to. :p
MatCD's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 20:54
MatCD
funny you should mention it, there was some girl that i was sitting next to before a collage lecture who was using one, and then later a guy was talking about how his friend had one

got me thinking that i might be the only person getting games legitimately
WhiteX's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 20:57
WhiteX
I live in Brazil here the R4 attachment ratio closes to 100%, it is this or playing any of the bundled games because it is not officially out here and a new, imported game goes up to 140 bucks, closely half of the minimum wage.
Einhander's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 20:58
Einhander
Nice; at least they owned up to the mistake.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 21:14
Cheeburga
...I want one.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 21:30
JonDarkwood
90% of Nintendo DS users have the hardcore pornographic scenes from mass effect converted to a video format that plays on their R4DS
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 21:30
JonDarkwood
and of those 90% approximately 450% are murderers/GTA players
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 21:37
The-Excel
@Cheeburga:
No you don't.
NightDehumidifier's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 22:29
NightDehumidifier
It's probably PSP. I mean forty bucks for a game you can easily download onto a two (or even one) gig memory stick with easy enough programming that Michael J. Fox can wildly flail his arms and still manage to program it to play his favorite games he played while on the set of Teen Wolf back in the day, it's not hard. You'd have to be borderline stupid to pull off failing to program it. It's so easy to hack, the PSP is like a drunk girl at a party who always bends over to pick up her cigarettes and flashes her ass like she doesn't know it.
outrage's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 22:47
outrage
@BrOnXbOmBr21: I see what you did there... making up a statistic; clever.
chickennoodlespraypaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2008 23:46
chickennoodlespraypaint
R4 card confirmed for brawl.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 03:55
mistic
mine's on the way in the mail...

also, can somebody please ban that mmofly dick?
razerangel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 05:36
razerangel
I told you lot, The Sunday Post is highly uninformed. I was right, oh yeah XD!
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 10:48
JonDarkwood
It's not like you needed to tell us, it was pretty effing obvious that the people writing it are idiots.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 11:22
Necros
Knew it, 90% was way too high.
crane0102's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 11:24
crane0102
Alright the ds sucks! The psp is better! I know cause looking at the status of each let me ask all you little fuckers 3 questions. Does the ds play music, HELL NO, does it play movies, NO, does it go on internent as good, NO. The only reason people buy the ds is to have on screen on the top and one screen on the bottom to look at and get you all fucking confused. Who agrees with me?
Vanima's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 13:38
Vanima
@crane0102

Probably not very many people. The PSP and the DS are completely different systems and there are lots of people that enjoy each of them in different ways. I'm sure there are probably a few people here that even own both. Just because you prefer one over the other doesn't mean you should run around and insult the people that prefer a system you don't. It's just not very nice at all.
Rbj's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 16:27
Rbj
This just reminded me to buy a r4, thanks :)
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 17:11
MissHinasaki
Well this all makes a lot more sense now...
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2008 17:39
The-Excel
They need to stop publicizing this if they want to make any progress.
Touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 15:46
Touch
crane0102: don't seem to have found anybody to agree with you yet, huh? That's probably because all the features you listed have nothing to do with playing games and you're on a gaming site.

A simple truth: the DS has about a thousand times more decent [u]games[/u] than the PSP.

Another simple truth: if I wanted something that could "play music, play videos and surf the internet", I'd use my mobile phone - which I do, frequently!
Touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 15:48
Touch
"Cool kids use BB code", eh?

Shame this site doesn't!
Justin Villasenor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:22
Justin Villasenor
I knew there was no way the number could possibly be that high.
crane0102's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2008 22:37
crane0102
Hey Touch. Why don't you you go touch a dogs dick and fucking suck it.
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