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ELSPA shoots down the '90 percent' R4 story photo

We all knew something was up with a recent quote by John Hillier, Manager of ELSPA's Intellectual Property Crime Unit. The Sunday Post, a Scottish newspaper, quoted Hillier saying "In America it's thought 90 percent of Nintendo users are playing pirated games because of R4s.” Now the ELSPA says that the Sunday Post article contains false quotes.

A spokesperson for ELSPA told GamesIndustry.biz that, "[John] didn't quote The Sunday Post on any figures whatsoever. ELSPA would certainly never presume to comment about America or anywhere else outside of the UK."

It seems that the Sunday Post article is a mishmash of a real conversation with Hillier, facts from a Singaporean article, and false quotes. Or that's that the ELSPA says.

"The quotes from The Sunday Post were ascribed to his name from another article which originates from a website in Singapore. This, it appears, is where The Sunday Post first found out about the supposed R4 situation and for some reason unknown to John have quoted him on what this article said."

The spokesperson also added that Nintendo views the reported facts in the article as false.

"As far as Nintendo are concerned, the facts are completely spurious."

I think that a comment by Destructoid reader DeusPayne sums things up well: "I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that even 90% of DS owners KNOW what an R4 is, let alone own one."

You guys are too smart for this crap, right? 


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Shin Oni's Avatar
Shin Oni at 02/01/2008 19:34
that was already hard to believe when DS systems fly off the shelf along with games and as stated, half of the people buying DS Lites don't even know of R4. let along games even being possible to download on a DS cartridge.
outrage's Avatar
outrage at 02/01/2008 19:35
Fox News what?
Sam Spectre's Avatar
Sam Spectre at 02/01/2008 19:39
I doubt even 9%
Video Cognito's Avatar
Video Cognito at 02/01/2008 19:46
Yeah, there was probably a decimal point out of place.
supermetroid's Avatar
supermetroid at 02/01/2008 19:47
Ahahahahahahahah. Ha.
Pwnt.

There's something about made-up statistics that makes me really annoyed.

/prepares for onslaught of sarcastic statistics jokes
/tries saying that 10 times fast
Neonie's Avatar
Neonie at 02/01/2008 19:47
Told you that that figure was bull shit :)
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 02/01/2008 19:50
90% of all statistics are made up, on the spot, by the person who cites them.
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Psywolf at 02/01/2008 19:57
even if 90% of americans owned an r4 doesn't mean they know how to use them

almost all older people that see me playing mine ask me if i have the brain training games and kids just like any game

and when i tell them i'm not playing a game i'm reading a comic they say "you can do that? how?"

so i explain everything it can do and tell them how and they get really interested but mostly say "i'd never understand all that if i buy one can you just do it for me"
coleadams's Avatar
coleadams at 02/01/2008 20:18
All anyone would need to do is include the Whitehouse in the address and your e-mail would automatically be ¡°lost.¡±
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Cowboy TTop at 02/01/2008 20:45
We all knew it was bull, and its good to see that when we are right and kick up a fuss, some of these muppets recheck themselves, for their credibilty is at stake.

I'm still gonna buy me an R4 though, as I really want to use Colors ap on my DS. Its amazing some of the artwork people have made via this little program (that's right, it lets you draw and upload your DS work online). Result.
DeusPayne's Avatar
DeusPayne at 02/01/2008 20:47
Zomg. I'm famous. Too bad my clog isn't a little more interesting to link to. :p
MatCD's Avatar
MatCD at 02/01/2008 20:54
funny you should mention it, there was some girl that i was sitting next to before a collage lecture who was using one, and then later a guy was talking about how his friend had one

got me thinking that i might be the only person getting games legitimately
WhiteX's Avatar
WhiteX at 02/01/2008 20:57
I live in Brazil here the R4 attachment ratio closes to 100%, it is this or playing any of the bundled games because it is not officially out here and a new, imported game goes up to 140 bucks, closely half of the minimum wage.
Einhander's Avatar
Einhander at 02/01/2008 20:58
Nice; at least they owned up to the mistake.
Cheeburga's Avatar
Cheeburga at 02/01/2008 21:14
...I want one.
JonDarkwood's Avatar
JonDarkwood at 02/01/2008 21:30
90% of Nintendo DS users have the hardcore pornographic scenes from mass effect converted to a video format that plays on their R4DS
JonDarkwood's Avatar
JonDarkwood at 02/01/2008 21:30
and of those 90% approximately 450% are murderers/GTA players
The-Excel's Avatar
The-Excel at 02/01/2008 21:37
@Cheeburga:
No you don't.
NightDehumidifier's Avatar
NightDehumidifier at 02/01/2008 22:29
It's probably PSP. I mean forty bucks for a game you can easily download onto a two (or even one) gig memory stick with easy enough programming that Michael J. Fox can wildly flail his arms and still manage to program it to play his favorite games he played while on the set of Teen Wolf back in the day, it's not hard. You'd have to be borderline stupid to pull off failing to program it. It's so easy to hack, the PSP is like a drunk girl at a party who always bends over to pick up her cigarettes and flashes her ass like she doesn't know it.
outrage's Avatar
outrage at 02/01/2008 22:47
@BrOnXbOmBr21: I see what you did there... making up a statistic; clever.
chickennoodlespraypaint's Avatar
chickennoodlespraypaint at 02/01/2008 23:46
R4 card confirmed for brawl.
mistic's Avatar
mistic at 02/02/2008 03:55
mine's on the way in the mail...

also, can somebody please ban that mmofly dick?
razerangel's Avatar
razerangel at 02/02/2008 05:36
I told you lot, The Sunday Post is highly uninformed. I was right, oh yeah XD!
JonDarkwood's Avatar
JonDarkwood at 02/02/2008 10:48
It's not like you needed to tell us, it was pretty effing obvious that the people writing it are idiots.
Necros's Avatar
Necros at 02/02/2008 11:22
Knew it, 90% was way too high.
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crane0102 at 02/02/2008 11:24
Alright the ds sucks! The psp is better! I know cause looking at the status of each let me ask all you little fuckers 3 questions. Does the ds play music, HELL NO, does it play movies, NO, does it go on internent as good, NO. The only reason people buy the ds is to have on screen on the top and one screen on the bottom to look at and get you all fucking confused. Who agrees with me?
Vanima's Avatar
Vanima at 02/02/2008 13:38
@crane0102

Probably not very many people. The PSP and the DS are completely different systems and there are lots of people that enjoy each of them in different ways. I'm sure there are probably a few people here that even own both. Just because you prefer one over the other doesn't mean you should run around and insult the people that prefer a system you don't. It's just not very nice at all.
Rbj's Avatar
Rbj at 02/02/2008 16:27
This just reminded me to buy a r4, thanks :)
MissHinasaki's Avatar
MissHinasaki at 02/02/2008 17:11
Well this all makes a lot more sense now...
The-Excel's Avatar
The-Excel at 02/02/2008 17:39
They need to stop publicizing this if they want to make any progress.
Touch's Avatar
Touch at 02/03/2008 15:46
crane0102: don't seem to have found anybody to agree with you yet, huh? That's probably because all the features you listed have nothing to do with playing games and you're on a gaming site.

A simple truth: the DS has about a thousand times more decent [u]games[/u] than the PSP.

Another simple truth: if I wanted something that could "play music, play videos and surf the internet", I'd use my mobile phone - which I do, frequently!
Touch's Avatar
Touch at 02/03/2008 15:48
"Cool kids use BB code", eh?

Shame this site doesn't!
Justin Villasenor's Avatar
Justin Villasenor at 02/03/2008 17:22
I knew there was no way the number could possibly be that high.
crane0102's Avatar
crane0102 at 02/05/2008 22:37
Hey Touch. Why don't you you go touch a dogs dick and fucking suck it.
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