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I always thought it would be a great idea if in the first half hour or so of Mass Effect 2 there would be some sort of crazy set piece/explosion/plot twist in an elevator. It would definitely surprise people.
So in other words we're going to be bombarded with various loading screens like Oblivion and Fallout? Great...
Fuck the complainers. Sure the elevators could get boring, but they were still 100% better than a lame-ass load screen. Thanks alot. -__-
'But lacking in significant narrative'
HEY! I loved the conversations in elevators =(
'“We've tried to make the loading screen more interesting this time by adding interesting visuals and information.”'
I hope that means giving you information about the world that you orginally had to go into the logbook/codec (?) to view before.
HEY! I loved the conversations in elevators =(
'“We've tried to make the loading screen more interesting this time by adding interesting visuals and information.”'
I hope that means giving you information about the world that you orginally had to go into the logbook/codec (?) to view before.
Has anyone noticed that all the versions of shepard we see online are always white with a shaved head. If they have character creator why not use it for once, my god. This actually pisses me off. i have a fondness for MY shepard, who was brown and had hair. When i started seeing screens for both the first and second screen i saw a white male, i thought to myself that is was odd that they did not make him a silhouette atleast on gameboxes. i understood they needed a test character to show off gameplay but every version of shepard is white shaved male.
WHERE'S THE MULTICULTURAL
WHERE'S THE MULTICULTURAL
@super2j
Seriously dude? So every screencap that is produced leaves half of us wondering who the F is that dude, is that Shepard, or a new Normandy crew member or party member, or what?. And besides, I'm not sure how the second one will be but it's been noted time and again that in the first ME, since the default model was actually modeled after some real dude, he was much better looking (in a graphical, render-y sense, not an aesthetic sense) than original creations. I bet ME2 will be no different, so they're using default Shepard for all their screens.
If you're going to bitch, bitch that they never show the default female Shepard.
Seriously dude? So every screencap that is produced leaves half of us wondering who the F is that dude, is that Shepard, or a new Normandy crew member or party member, or what?. And besides, I'm not sure how the second one will be but it's been noted time and again that in the first ME, since the default model was actually modeled after some real dude, he was much better looking (in a graphical, render-y sense, not an aesthetic sense) than original creations. I bet ME2 will be no different, so they're using default Shepard for all their screens.
If you're going to bitch, bitch that they never show the default female Shepard.
On another note. I'm sure the elevator bitchin' was from people that were too stupid to realize it was a tool to mask loading times. From what I've seen from the Dtoiders, that's not us. I get the feeling that the programmer that responded in an official capacity was masking his true response, that being "Oh so you guys WANT loading screens? Really? Uh, well, alright, dumbasses, you can have them. Makes it a lot easier on us soooo, thanks? I guess?"
Just copy the damn loading screens from COD4 already. Replace them with space and done. Also, ME2 has very nice boobs.
what if instead of elevators we have to fight a boss to load into the zone we're going to?
the load screen is a boss is what im trying to convey in my message
genius? or genetically amazing i am?
the load screen is a boss is what im trying to convey in my message
genius? or genetically amazing i am?
Aww. I'd have preferred the characters to have conversations in the lifts to cover up the loading times, like they attempted with Mass Effect 1, but actually functioning. They managed to master the unneccessarily large number of conversations between your characters in Dragon Age, so it can't be all that difficult...
@l0cke
Those loading screens make sense for COD because the progression is linear and the exposition is an extension of what just happened, ME and ME2 won't play like that because it's open ended.
The elevators would've been fine to me if they didn't glue you down, broke the illusion of seamlessness.
Those loading screens make sense for COD because the progression is linear and the exposition is an extension of what just happened, ME and ME2 won't play like that because it's open ended.
The elevators would've been fine to me if they didn't glue you down, broke the illusion of seamlessness.
the elevators would have been cool if they didn't stupidly glue your shoes to the floor.
running around in circles impatiently is the video game equivalent of popping bubble wrap.
running around in circles impatiently is the video game equivalent of popping bubble wrap.
Why don't they allow us to read the game's codex during loading times? I sure enjoyed reading about the other species and planets.
Wouldn't that be useful?
Wouldn't that be useful?
But lacking in significant narrative
What!?! Not only did I find the elevators insightful into the characters it was the rare oppurtunity you actually got to see your party directly interacting and those radio broadcast (which also unlocked missions) were a cool way to keep up with the ME universe and never repeated for yours truly and I did plenty of elevator riding. More than neccesary.
I prefer the elevators over a loading screen vastly. Loading screens make everything feel so disconnected.
Also, this:
On another note. I'm sure the elevator bitchin' was from people that were too stupid to realize it was a tool to mask loading times. From what I've seen from the Dtoiders, that's not us. I get the feeling that the programmer that responded in an official capacity was masking his true response, that being "Oh so you guys WANT loading screens? Really? Uh, well, alright, dumbasses, you can have them. Makes it a lot easier on us soooo, thanks? I guess?"
I can not believe anyone would prefer loading screens. Even if they stick your feet to the floor. I think that's better and more realistic than a loading screen for every friggin' level of the Citadel.
What!?! Not only did I find the elevators insightful into the characters it was the rare oppurtunity you actually got to see your party directly interacting and those radio broadcast (which also unlocked missions) were a cool way to keep up with the ME universe and never repeated for yours truly and I did plenty of elevator riding. More than neccesary.
I prefer the elevators over a loading screen vastly. Loading screens make everything feel so disconnected.
Also, this:
On another note. I'm sure the elevator bitchin' was from people that were too stupid to realize it was a tool to mask loading times. From what I've seen from the Dtoiders, that's not us. I get the feeling that the programmer that responded in an official capacity was masking his true response, that being "Oh so you guys WANT loading screens? Really? Uh, well, alright, dumbasses, you can have them. Makes it a lot easier on us soooo, thanks? I guess?"
I can not believe anyone would prefer loading screens. Even if they stick your feet to the floor. I think that's better and more realistic than a loading screen for every friggin' level of the Citadel.
Mass Effect allowed you to choose between Loading Screens and elevators in all but one case, as far as the Citadel goes. EVERY single elevator, except the one from the Docking Bay to the Main Station, was optional and could be completely ignored by using Citadel Rapid Transit instead, which gave you a regular Loading Screen. The Dock elevator was used/needed because it triggers 2 events when you get out of it (Ship inspection & TV interview).
The fact that this is STILL not known really shows that people don't go to great enough lengths to dispel propaganda spread by people that probably missed half the game's mechanics. Whenever I hear about Mass Effect some stupid elevator comment is near, and every single time it just shows the stupidity of the commenter.
The fact that this is STILL not known really shows that people don't go to great enough lengths to dispel propaganda spread by people that probably missed half the game's mechanics. Whenever I hear about Mass Effect some stupid elevator comment is near, and every single time it just shows the stupidity of the commenter.
^ What Kaalinn said.
They main thing about the elevators was that you couldn't teleport inside your ship, as in the Citadel. I never understood why the Rapid Transit stations led to shorter loading than the elevators though :)
They main thing about the elevators was that you couldn't teleport inside your ship, as in the Citadel. I never understood why the Rapid Transit stations led to shorter loading than the elevators though :)
@Kaalinn
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought most of the elevator complaints were about how long it took the damn lift to get down to the armory/hangar in the Normandy. Pretty sure there wasn't a way to avoid them...
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought most of the elevator complaints were about how long it took the damn lift to get down to the armory/hangar in the Normandy. Pretty sure there wasn't a way to avoid them...
Sad. It would've been better if they allowed the elevator rides to stay, but they would just be dependent on how long it takes to load the next level. But i just hope they will make pre-rendered cutscenes to be skippable as in Arkham Asylum (so, when the level after the cutscene is loaded, you can skip the rest of the movie).
Now they will be filled with ad space like at the movie theaters. Queue in the DB who's supposed to be hip and entertaining but isn't. FTW
I definitely prefered the elevators to a boring load screen. As people have said, you could learn about new missions and hear about your exploits from the radio broadcasts. And Ashley and Liara would have pretty funny little exchanges from time to time.
Keep the elevators but do prefetching instead.
God, the elevator inside the ship pissed me off. So slow for so little change. And each ship level was not that big.
God, the elevator inside the ship pissed me off. So slow for so little change. And each ship level was not that big.
the only problem I had was with the elevator in the ship. That elevator was tedious. Other than that the elevators weren't too problematic.
I'd rather listen to lounge music from the future while still controlling Shepard (and seeing some interaction between the squad) than staring at a loading screen.
"But lacking in significant narrative"
Seriously, did anyone ever actually bother to listen to what the characters said? I personally loved the elevator conversations because it gave us insight into the mentality and personality of the various party members. To see how Kaiden interracted with Wrex, or how Garrus and Tali talked, it was a nice touch that I thought made the elevator rides worth it.
And since they were used to compensate for loading, I guess now we get to have dozens of boring loading screens instead. Yay.
Seriously, did anyone ever actually bother to listen to what the characters said? I personally loved the elevator conversations because it gave us insight into the mentality and personality of the various party members. To see how Kaiden interracted with Wrex, or how Garrus and Tali talked, it was a nice touch that I thought made the elevator rides worth it.
And since they were used to compensate for loading, I guess now we get to have dozens of boring loading screens instead. Yay.
I didn't think the elevator scenes were a big deal...the only person I even remember complaining about them is Jim Sterling, to be honest.
And I bet by "interesting information," they mean the typical "OMG TIPS" that you often see on loading screens. It' d be cool if they had a random entry from the codex show up on the loading screens, though. We'll see what happens...but either way the game will kick ass.
And I bet by "interesting information," they mean the typical "OMG TIPS" that you often see on loading screens. It' d be cool if they had a random entry from the codex show up on the loading screens, though. We'll see what happens...but either way the game will kick ass.
I miss the loading screens from The Darkness, maybe if we filled these loading screens with just... a little longer dialogue? Or even a narrated clip from the Codex. It bothered me that I had to read everything in the Codex. Don't get me wrong wrong, I like to read, but I hate having to read seperate bits of info as I get them. I remember just sitting back during Mass Effect and let the Codex Narrator serenade me with knowledge as I took a break from driving around in the Mako and finding things I could decrypt due to a poor Electronics skill.
New Codex: Note
NEW QUEST AVAILABLE: Vague Quest Name Here
...open the Codex, read the damn note, ahh, so that's what started the quest.
...or when pickpocketing people, it always just says "Item Acquired" then forcing you to shuffle through your inventory to see what it was. Bleh, I don't know why I didn't like Dragon Age, probably because I played a console version, but I have my hopes up for Mass Effect 2.
Woah, straying off topic much? (short post: elevator scene was good)
New Codex: Note
NEW QUEST AVAILABLE: Vague Quest Name Here
...open the Codex, read the damn note, ahh, so that's what started the quest.
...or when pickpocketing people, it always just says "Item Acquired" then forcing you to shuffle through your inventory to see what it was. Bleh, I don't know why I didn't like Dragon Age, probably because I played a console version, but I have my hopes up for Mass Effect 2.
Woah, straying off topic much? (short post: elevator scene was good)
If the load times are de facto, whether localized in elevators or not, I think I'd prefer it if the elevators were kept in game. Besides, I adored the combinations of dialogue between the various characters.
"Has anyone noticed that all the versions of shepard we see online are always white with a shaved head. If they have character creator why not use it for once, my god. This actually pisses me off. i have a fondness for MY shepard, who was brown and had hair. When i started seeing screens for both the first and second screen i saw a white male, i thought to myself that is was odd that they did not make him a silhouette atleast on gameboxes. i understood they needed a test character to show off gameplay but every version of shepard is white shaved male.
WHERE'S THE MULTICULTURAL"
Have you ever played Mass Effect? The basic white, shaved head Shepard was the only one I ever used because the while the character creator was good, it was kind of like using a Created Superstar on SvR... They looked fakish and out of place next to the designed characters. Plus, this Shepard is badass anyways, so why change him?
WHERE'S THE MULTICULTURAL"
Have you ever played Mass Effect? The basic white, shaved head Shepard was the only one I ever used because the while the character creator was good, it was kind of like using a Created Superstar on SvR... They looked fakish and out of place next to the designed characters. Plus, this Shepard is badass anyways, so why change him?
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