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I can see PS3 and PC games as they are only supported by the developer, but 360? What's the fucking point of paying for Live if the games go offline?
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I feel sorry for anybody wanting to go back and dig up old treasures, only to find major components missing. It's basically strong arming you into buying the latest products and sure, while that makes sense to keep up with crowds, what of the people who want to check out the stuff that was missed first time around?
Sure, we can laugh at Army of Two's misfortune, but isn't the whole point of that game centered around tactical co-op? I don't want to go looking for this title in a year's time (well, if ever) only to find I'm stuck with inane AI. Does the half-price on GoD or pre-owned/eBay really justify all that?
Right now, I'm dusting off the original Bad Company and I'm amazed at the amount of folks still playing that. How long is that going to last when Battlefield 3 turns up? I don't like this idea of moving forward, but then, the idea of a company losing money on goodwill is obviously not a viable option for them.
Sure, we can laugh at Army of Two's misfortune, but isn't the whole point of that game centered around tactical co-op? I don't want to go looking for this title in a year's time (well, if ever) only to find I'm stuck with inane AI. Does the half-price on GoD or pre-owned/eBay really justify all that?
Right now, I'm dusting off the original Bad Company and I'm amazed at the amount of folks still playing that. How long is that going to last when Battlefield 3 turns up? I don't like this idea of moving forward, but then, the idea of a company losing money on goodwill is obviously not a viable option for them.
These cocks are trying to get to where their yearly sports titles' online component is only available for a year after initial release.
Online functionality should remain throughout the life-cycle of the console.
It's bad enough that you cheap bastards won't allow for free up to date roster updates for older titles.
If you want people to buy your games every 12 months, earn their purchase by releasing innovative software. Don't try to weasle another purchase out of them by disabling/restricting features to only the most current releases.
Online functionality should remain throughout the life-cycle of the console.
It's bad enough that you cheap bastards won't allow for free up to date roster updates for older titles.
If you want people to buy your games every 12 months, earn their purchase by releasing innovative software. Don't try to weasle another purchase out of them by disabling/restricting features to only the most current releases.
Stevil put the right point, servers are not cost free to maintain. Hoping that the responsible for paying for them will keep them running forever is utopic at best.
This means platinum trophies for any of these games will be impossible. No matter to me, only one I'm at all interested in going for is NFS, maybe, and I have till August to decide/do it.
Its the nature of the beast I think. These servers just arent worth the cost to maintain. Reminds me of those guys who kept playing Halo 2 for a while to keep the servers going. Dedicated fellas.
Personally I feel that when this is done there should still be a way to connect peer to peer with someone on your friends list or by ip on pc.
I have an Uncle who works at EA and he says that they're going to be doing this to even more recent games very soon, just to piss off people who bought into the EA Online Pass.
where are the people,ya know like the linux ps3 people, complaining that what i paid for is no longer useable to its fullest capacity. i hate internet connected consoles. always have.
"Fancy leaving on our x-Box with one of those games on like those guys did for Halo?"
"No."
"I don't blame you."
"No."
"I don't blame you."
@Stevil
Thankfully you can play Army of Two co-op locally. Did it with a friend a couple months back. It's still bullshit, though.
Thankfully you can play Army of Two co-op locally. Did it with a friend a couple months back. It's still bullshit, though.
But but but, isn't Battlefield 2 like the best FPS game ever brought to consoles?
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
This is quite a bummer.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
This is quite a bummer.
While I am disappointed that games do go offline....it is a necessary evil.
Though it is happening faster for games these days. The original XBOX LIVE games lasted for much longer.
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat ...good stuff....why did they remove unlimited mines again?? I rememebr laying 100s of mines on that level with the bridge....BRING THAT BACK DICE!
Though it is happening faster for games these days. The original XBOX LIVE games lasted for much longer.
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat ...good stuff....why did they remove unlimited mines again?? I rememebr laying 100s of mines on that level with the bridge....BRING THAT BACK DICE!
Just another reason to steer me further away from online-centric games. Single player games like oblivion can't be shut down.
One of my most hated aspects about consoles.
Wish they could at least set it up to where if a fan wanted to they could run a server for it. Though with MS and Sony that won't really happen.
What if I want to play some army of two coop? I better get my friend to my house who lives 5 states away or something.
Wish they could at least set it up to where if a fan wanted to they could run a server for it. Though with MS and Sony that won't really happen.
What if I want to play some army of two coop? I better get my friend to my house who lives 5 states away or something.
it's a shame they don't open source the server software(or at least release it publicly, even if the source is closed) when they take these things offline. i understand them not wanting to deal with it if its costing them money but it really sucks that consumers are losing a part of the game.
Quake came out in 1996 and I could go buy it on Steam and be playing online in no time.
Quake came out in 1996 and I could go buy it on Steam and be playing online in no time.
this is why single player components of a game have to be good. when the company behind the title pulls the plug on the online portion, what's left should still be a good game.
Dedicated servers! get your head in gear gaming (*ahem console*) industry
i just realized i have a copy of army of two, better try it online for one last time
i just realized i have a copy of army of two, better try it online for one last time
I do wonder, seeing that EA is obsessed with running their own servers and not using P2P-based systems, whether the gaming community should force Microsoft to remove the need to use Xbox Live to play EA games, which of course will make MS push EA to use Xbox's servers instead of their own, keeping their games online forever.
Alternatively, EA could release the server software (or at least, move it on community-paid servers) for their old games so that such support is never lost.
Alternatively, EA could release the server software (or at least, move it on community-paid servers) for their old games so that such support is never lost.
I'm not tryna be an asshole here, but I was expecting much worse from this list. Like Bad Company 1 or something. This isn't about forcing you to buy a sequel either. EA could have easily stopped Madden 10 the day Madden 11 stopped. If you look at the back of the case, I think EA actually states that this could happen. At least they did with the PS2 version. If only 1% of your player our playing these games, then you're wasting money. Its sucks, but that's how it works. I'm not a EA fan anymore, but I was ready to shit on them, but these games are all pretty irrelavant.
@KwikPwn do you really expect them to give roster updates to every games they make, even though a new game was released. This is EA first of all. Secondly, if all the rosters were the same, people would just not buy the new game. There's a difference between a company being nice and given their fans thing and a charity service.
I never did have a problem with older titles being shutdown, but Tiger Woods 10 is far superior to the recent releases in that series. Disappointing
anybody bitching about this needs to cry harder.
I was lucky to get 2-3 years of Madden 08...and that was playing in on-line league on the PC. Games and features change and 99% of the people who play against others want to play what everyone else is playing...not against the cheap ass who just now bought a game in the 99 cent bin.
I was lucky to get 2-3 years of Madden 08...and that was playing in on-line league on the PC. Games and features change and 99% of the people who play against others want to play what everyone else is playing...not against the cheap ass who just now bought a game in the 99 cent bin.
And this is why I never buy EA games on any platform other than the PC where any chance of them conning me out of my money can be negated by the community.
Well, that sucks. Thankfully I'm unaffected this time, but there goes any chance EA had at me buying a new copy of one of their old games...
I hate that EA forces you to use their servers, especially since they also force you to make an EA account to play them in the first place. Why not just use XBL like everyone else?
''I played Unreal Tournament the other day on my PC.
That game came out in 1999.
Fucking consoles.''
Words of wisdom!
That game came out in 1999.
Fucking consoles.''
Words of wisdom!
This is why PC online gaming is nice -- custom servers.
Then again, every version of Phantasy Star Online has them, too.
Then again, every version of Phantasy Star Online has them, too.
"Online functionality should remain throughout the life-cycle of the console."
I agree with this completely.
I agree with this completely.
Man that's fucked since Madden 10 is the only one I own and play frequently. Luckily I usually play same console.... but still sucks
After playing Battlefield 2 on Xbox 360 recently I don't think we are missing much. Plus, we have 3 coming soon!
Everyone complaining about paying for Xbox Live and these games shutting down, remember! EA uses their own servers that they made that you access THROUGH Xbox Live. It's really EA's fault for this, not Microsoft. Just sayin'.
Son of a motherfucking @$&*@#$*&.
I just recently looked through my Achievements and was thinking of revisiting some of the multiplayer ones for Army of Two. This makes me angry.
I recently revisited Burnout: Paradise and tried to play online(to get all the extra DLC achievements, which, coincidentally, are ALL online achievements), turns out, the 'EA Servers are OFFLINE'. This makes me angry.
This is something that's been happening for a while now, specifically on consoles and while I realize that running servers costs money but it's not too absurd to expect servers running for games in the CURRENT generation. Limit it to a single server, at least. Don't just take them all down.
I can see it now, some Publisher creates a 'Subscription' Service/Model that 'GUARANTEES SERVERS UP 100% OF THE TIME!' I could see Activision coming up with a 'Call of Duty Pass' so that you can play Call of Duty 1 online 4ever! ...Something that PC gamers have been enjoying for years now. You can still play Counter-Strike(1999), for God's sake.
I just recently looked through my Achievements and was thinking of revisiting some of the multiplayer ones for Army of Two. This makes me angry.
I recently revisited Burnout: Paradise and tried to play online(to get all the extra DLC achievements, which, coincidentally, are ALL online achievements), turns out, the 'EA Servers are OFFLINE'. This makes me angry.
This is something that's been happening for a while now, specifically on consoles and while I realize that running servers costs money but it's not too absurd to expect servers running for games in the CURRENT generation. Limit it to a single server, at least. Don't just take them all down.
I can see it now, some Publisher creates a 'Subscription' Service/Model that 'GUARANTEES SERVERS UP 100% OF THE TIME!' I could see Activision coming up with a 'Call of Duty Pass' so that you can play Call of Duty 1 online 4ever! ...Something that PC gamers have been enjoying for years now. You can still play Counter-Strike(1999), for God's sake.
I won't buy EA. I can see the brick wall at the end of the tunnel for burnout paradise and BFBC2. And their origin bullshit combined with their online pass dump in the mouth means too bad. This was their plan all along and is the reason why they strong-armed MS to give them an exception with their policies.
Fuck EA, they're the worst.
Fuck EA, they're the worst.
so a year lease on a sports game yet at full-price? you got to be fucking kidding me....
i guess im done with sports games....
well i still have nfl 2k1 and mutant football and that's all i really need
i guess im done with sports games....
well i still have nfl 2k1 and mutant football and that's all i really need
The worst part is, you can't play system link in Army of Two. So once this goes offline, there is literally no multi-system co-op available for Army of Two.
Which is sad, me and a friend loved to bust that game out to finish it in an afternoon once every year or so.
Which is sad, me and a friend loved to bust that game out to finish it in an afternoon once every year or so.
Hacked Games
If you want people to buy your games every 12 months, earn their purchase by releasing innovative software. Don't try to weasle another purchase out of them by disabling/restricting features to only the most current releases.
If you want people to buy your games every 12 months, earn their purchase by releasing innovative software. Don't try to weasle another purchase out of them by disabling/restricting features to only the most current releases.
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