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You could have found a picture of Jim making out with Peter Puppy for this headline in like five minutes. Just go check Deviantart.
Here in Ohio I get to read all that neocon God loves all his children unless you're gay or pro choice or too much of a different color crap too. Annoying as hell.
Did you hear Doug TenNapel is secretly gay? It's only a matter of time before he's caught soliciting gay sex in a Milwaulkee airport bathroom.
Gay Gamer? I'm more surprised that that exists. Does being gay really affect your views on gaming that much?
"both sides are sickening. the only way to be right in this debate is to NOT GIVE A FUCK."
Usually I ignore your rambling, but I literally do not see how not giving a fuck about someone's rights is the only way to win this. Nor do I see how supporting the rights of LGBT people to marry who they like is "sickening." You're really gonna have to explain yourself on this one.
Usually I ignore your rambling, but I literally do not see how not giving a fuck about someone's rights is the only way to win this. Nor do I see how supporting the rights of LGBT people to marry who they like is "sickening." You're really gonna have to explain yourself on this one.
Every person's entitled to their opinion, but if you want me to buy your games, STFU about what you believe and produce high quality games. If your staff leaves due to your insane stance on sexuality, religion, etc; so be it. Perhaps you don't belong in business in the first place.
Sounds like he's being pretty serious, and he'll be happy to know I won't be supporting any potential future game project of his in the future for his stupidity. Same as I won't be supporting Shadow Complex for the same reasons.
Unfortunately and as rare as it is, talented creative people can be just as furious bigots as anyone else. I mean, just look at Orson Scott Card. The man can <i>write</i>! Doesn't stop him from being a bigoted right-wing homophobe, though.
Knowing that my money is partially going to an asshole that financially supported the Prop 8 anti-gay marriage bill is not a good feeling, so whenever I buy one that douche's books (or when I paid for Shadow Complex), I donate twice as much cash to an LGBT Support charity.
Knowing that my money is partially going to an asshole that financially supported the Prop 8 anti-gay marriage bill is not a good feeling, so whenever I buy one that douche's books (or when I paid for Shadow Complex), I donate twice as much cash to an LGBT Support charity.
"Give me some time all I’ll see what I can do. You realize this conversation is going to be used by your people to justify a permanent boycott of my work."
-Doug TenNapel
I'm gonna permanently boycott this man's work
-Doug TenNapel
I'm gonna permanently boycott this man's work
"Gay Gamer? I'm more surprised that that exists. Does being gay really affect your views on gaming that much?"
I once had a conversation with some people from Gay Gamer about this topic, and they had great arguments in support of self-identification. The chief topic is the fact that they're a near-totally unconsidered demographic. Most games, and resulting game blogs, are catered entirely to straight gamers. I think it's perfectly acceptable for a site to cater to a particular demographic.
No, it doesn't change the content of a game, nor does it particularly affect one's enjoyment of most of them, but there's definitely a a difference when it comes to the communities. Just look at XBL users and their rampant homophobia to see why.
You can also look back through some old posts where my random article headers have been of men making out. Some of the opinions expressed in the comments are why sites like Gay Gamer are a good thing.
I once had a conversation with some people from Gay Gamer about this topic, and they had great arguments in support of self-identification. The chief topic is the fact that they're a near-totally unconsidered demographic. Most games, and resulting game blogs, are catered entirely to straight gamers. I think it's perfectly acceptable for a site to cater to a particular demographic.
No, it doesn't change the content of a game, nor does it particularly affect one's enjoyment of most of them, but there's definitely a a difference when it comes to the communities. Just look at XBL users and their rampant homophobia to see why.
You can also look back through some old posts where my random article headers have been of men making out. Some of the opinions expressed in the comments are why sites like Gay Gamer are a good thing.
Freedom of speech, people. I don't agree with his view, but he has the right to say it. Those who champion free speech often attempt to silence others.
He just lost all of my buisness for whatever he does in the future. I loved Earthworm Jim when I was younger but to see the creator of something as outrageous and crazy as that series pretty much outright bashing homosexuality leaves me feeling quite a bit empty. I agree that he has an opinion, and that because it is against something that I am all for doesn't make it automatically wrong, but to sit there and compare it to taking a shit in the women's bathroom makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Gay Marriage will happen, humanity will continue to progress socially at a snails crawl, but it still makes me sad to hear things like this from such talented artists.
He just lost all of my buisness for whatever he does in the future. I loved Earthworm Jim when I was younger but to see the creator of something as outrageous and crazy as that series pretty much outright bashing homosexuality leaves me feeling quite a bit empty. I agree that he has an opinion, and that because it is against something that I am all for doesn't make it automatically wrong, but to sit there and compare it to taking a shit in the women's bathroom makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Gay Marriage will happen, humanity will continue to progress socially at a snails crawl, but it still makes me sad to hear things like this from such talented artists.
No one is arguing he doesn't have a right to say this crap.
We also have the right to see the crap he's saying, and point it out for the utter crap it is.
Freedom of speech works both ways: People can say stupid crap, and we get to call it stupid crap.
We also have the right to see the crap he's saying, and point it out for the utter crap it is.
Freedom of speech works both ways: People can say stupid crap, and we get to call it stupid crap.
@Lord of Murder Mountain
No one's saying he can't say what he wants. They're just saying he's a dick and they're probably not going to buy his games anymore.
No one's saying he can't say what he wants. They're just saying he's a dick and they're probably not going to buy his games anymore.
Well fuck him. People like that are a big problem in this country. Anytime they get their way I wanna shove one of those Team America puppets up their asses. "AMERICA! FUC-- FUU- Fuck! FUCK! FUUUUCK!!!!".... yeah.
@Lord
Classic 'freedom of speech' argument. Yes, he has right to say what he wants. Jim and we also have a right to challenge it and discuss our dislike of his views.
Classic 'freedom of speech' argument. Yes, he has right to say what he wants. Jim and we also have a right to challenge it and discuss our dislike of his views.
"Freedom of speech, people. I don't agree with his view, but he has the right to say it. Those who champion free speech often attempt to silence others."
He absolutely has the freedom to say it. Others have the freedom to call him a cunt for it. I often find that people who defend their opinions by crying "free speech" misunderstand what the term means. It does not mean you get to say whatever you like unchallenged.
"Gay marriage is the pinnacle of social progress?"
I never said it was the pinnacle. I said it's inevitable because society is always progressing. Social progress won't end with gay marriage. It'll keep on marching forward.
He absolutely has the freedom to say it. Others have the freedom to call him a cunt for it. I often find that people who defend their opinions by crying "free speech" misunderstand what the term means. It does not mean you get to say whatever you like unchallenged.
"Gay marriage is the pinnacle of social progress?"
I never said it was the pinnacle. I said it's inevitable because society is always progressing. Social progress won't end with gay marriage. It'll keep on marching forward.
@Jim
That is true about the whole demographic thing but I still find it hard to think that people that many online and in gaming communities are homophobic. But I guess if they like their own community then leave 'em to it.
That is true about the whole demographic thing but I still find it hard to think that people that many online and in gaming communities are homophobic. But I guess if they like their own community then leave 'em to it.
@ mattrodroid - Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. It's as if people want to align themselves with a cause just to make themselves feel important. When one of the Wachowski brothers had a sex change, (s)he didn't go on Oprah and make a scene about it. It was a personal decision, people respected it, and it hasn't been an issue. Hell, most people don't even know it happened.
As far as this little bit of controversy, who gives a fuck what the creator of Earthworm Jim thinks? It's not like he's going to lead gaming culture one way or another anyway. He's just some irrelevant twat with a loud mouth. Publicizing his senseless crap just strengthens his platform. Remember people, don't feed the trolls.
As far as this little bit of controversy, who gives a fuck what the creator of Earthworm Jim thinks? It's not like he's going to lead gaming culture one way or another anyway. He's just some irrelevant twat with a loud mouth. Publicizing his senseless crap just strengthens his platform. Remember people, don't feed the trolls.
Look: As I said before, it is stupid crap what this man is saying.
On the other hand: If you were to avoid any and all material of which its creator had political views you either disagreed with or found repulsive, you'd be bored half the time.
Will Wright is a pretty economic conservative. I find his economic views outdated and disproven, with not a shred of credibility left in them thanks to the last couple of decades.
However, I love Sim City to death.
Plato's Republic is some the strongest, evilest proto-fascist bullshit at times, openly calling for the censorship of music and art which will not help build nice little robot soldiers for their perfect state.
However, it's still one of my favorite books, just for how beautifully it's written, and it's downright interesting.
But at the same time, if people don't want to support those things (since Will Wright is quite a noticeable Republican donor, so all that money from Sim City is going to elect people you might not like very much), they have a right to know where their money will be going and can choose not to support that by not purchasing their material.
Freedom works both ways guys. You have the freedom to do and say what you want. People also have the freedom not to use their money to propagate those things.
Besides, Earthworm Jim was lame. There, I said it.
On the other hand: If you were to avoid any and all material of which its creator had political views you either disagreed with or found repulsive, you'd be bored half the time.
Will Wright is a pretty economic conservative. I find his economic views outdated and disproven, with not a shred of credibility left in them thanks to the last couple of decades.
However, I love Sim City to death.
Plato's Republic is some the strongest, evilest proto-fascist bullshit at times, openly calling for the censorship of music and art which will not help build nice little robot soldiers for their perfect state.
However, it's still one of my favorite books, just for how beautifully it's written, and it's downright interesting.
But at the same time, if people don't want to support those things (since Will Wright is quite a noticeable Republican donor, so all that money from Sim City is going to elect people you might not like very much), they have a right to know where their money will be going and can choose not to support that by not purchasing their material.
Freedom works both ways guys. You have the freedom to do and say what you want. People also have the freedom not to use their money to propagate those things.
Besides, Earthworm Jim was lame. There, I said it.
gay rights aren't some huge hurdle anymore. People are acting like they're some advocate for gay rights when gay rights are mainstream now, so all these tom, dick, and harry's preaching this and that about same sex marriage when they have all the rights they've bitched about. Now we're stuck on semantics...and the wording of the word marriage. I think its trivial, as I accepted gayness a LONG time ago.
so when i come on a GAMING site and see people trying to get all pissy about someone standing for something they believe in, then it appalls me. He has just as much right not to agree with gay marriage as someone has to want gay marriage. Hypocrites for the fucking lose.
so when i come on a GAMING site and see people trying to get all pissy about someone standing for something they believe in, then it appalls me. He has just as much right not to agree with gay marriage as someone has to want gay marriage. Hypocrites for the fucking lose.
Doug TenNapel also made the entire Sockbaby series. I somehow doubt he's being completely serious.
He comes across more like a dumb Libertarian than a genuine bigot anyway.
He comes across more like a dumb Libertarian than a genuine bigot anyway.
The only way his argument is like taking a dump in a ladies room is if the shit coming out of his mouth was being said while standing in a ladies room.
If you look at the people who start cults("religions"), they're almost always pedophiles. There's a decent chance that Jesus was just some guy trying to fuck kids. Can we please stop using his religion as the authority on sexual morality?
And what does freedom of speech have to do with anything? Who's arguing that TenNapel shouldn't be allowed to say these things? Why is freedom of speech always brought up everytime someone says something controversial; even if no one is denying them their right to say it?
If you look at the people who start cults("religions"), they're almost always pedophiles. There's a decent chance that Jesus was just some guy trying to fuck kids. Can we please stop using his religion as the authority on sexual morality?
And what does freedom of speech have to do with anything? Who's arguing that TenNapel shouldn't be allowed to say these things? Why is freedom of speech always brought up everytime someone says something controversial; even if no one is denying them their right to say it?
@ Sir Legendhead
"@ mattrodroid - Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. It's as if people want to align themselves with a cause just to make themselves feel important."
If you're saying this towards the LGBT movement, it's incredibly stupid.
"@ mattrodroid - Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. It's as if people want to align themselves with a cause just to make themselves feel important."
If you're saying this towards the LGBT movement, it's incredibly stupid.
@IABOMBA
Where do you live that Gay people are treated completely equal? Cause I'd like to move there. Otherwise you are completely wrong and out of your mind.
Where do you live that Gay people are treated completely equal? Cause I'd like to move there. Otherwise you are completely wrong and out of your mind.
While you may not agree with it, the man is allowed to have any opinion he chooses. There's a huge percentage of people in the world that share his opinion but just because he created Earthworm Jim doesn't make it any more appalling.
Personally I don't really give a shit either way. He made a good game and since that's the only thing about the guy that affects me personally, that's all I really care about.
Personally I don't really give a shit either way. He made a good game and since that's the only thing about the guy that affects me personally, that's all I really care about.
Also, I wanted to say that homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Every species has a 'gay bracket'.
We really needed to pick out a single game creator who decides to take a stance on something deemed silly by most? Why the hell is this write up even in existence. Seems some one would have to have a stick up their butt about Doug to bother going out of their way to write about this. Why not pick a more worthy target like Westboro Church and spend your time snickering at their beliefs. Thanks Mr. Sterling for wasting 2 minutes of my life.
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