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"Hey, we know you pay $60 a year for Xbox Live and still have to look at beef jerkey ads on the dashboard. OK, you don't get any free stuff like the Playstation Plus guys, but here, have a few pennies and STFU."
I think it's kinda cool because they're just achievements that you get for playing what you like.
....But from a competitive angle, I dont see how it compares to anything else on offer.
....But from a competitive angle, I dont see how it compares to anything else on offer.
@hushlorentz I wouldn't wait for that smack on the ass. $60 a year and we don't even get a reach-around.
Isn't everyone still paying for XBL Gold, anyway? So you're not really getting money back as much as you are just, I dunno, spending less money per month?
Someone get up in this bitch with some bar graphs or something.
Someone get up in this bitch with some bar graphs or something.
White people bitching like white people do. Just another day here at the line for the JC Penny Customer Service desk that is the internet.
@Stevil Leslie Nielsen has a dark side. I can see it. I can believe it. However, this photo of Barney Fife has bothered me for years:
BARNEY FIFE IS THE ZODIAC KILLER.
@Stevil Leslie Nielsen has a dark side. I can see it. I can believe it. However, this photo of Barney Fife has bothered me for years:
BARNEY FIFE IS THE ZODIAC KILLER.
@Char
Not only that, but every time I post this:
they send me a new Xbox!
@sayword, Ardent Snow
"Free shit? This isnt fucking free and everyone has a right to complain about this. You pay 60 bucks a year and they are basing these rewards through achievements? I still dont understand how most of you like xbl is a better option than ps+"
"You can pay $50 a year for PS+ (optional) and get hundreds of dollars in games to play. Or pay $60 a year for live and get 1% reward on purchases?"
First of all, nobody was comparing this to PS+ (which I'll get to in a minute). In fact, nobody was talking about PS+ at all until you brought it up.
Second, for the record, you get a bit more for your $60 Gold subscription than this paltry 1%, such as the weekly Deal (which more than covers the price of Gold if you're into downloading games and/or DLC) and the aforementioned Rewards program, from which I've personally earned 1850 Microsoft points (~$23) for doing nothing more than taking a one minute survey every month and purchasing things that I had already planned on buying anyway. Again, I'm not comparing Gold to PS+, I'm just saying that you DO get more than just the ability to play online with your $60, which is something people commonly (purposefully?) forget to mention.
Now, on to PS+. I've been using it for about three months now, and I can say, without any hesitation, that it is one of the best deals in gaming. Not only do you commonly see brand new games given away for free (Double Dragon Neon) or discounted on day one (Counter-Strike GO), but the amount of older games and DLC they're constantly adding to their free section is so good it's overwhelming. And once you get over the fact that you're just "renting" these games for ~$5 a month (cheaper than GameFly, for the record) and just start enjoying it for what it is, there is NO denying that it is a better "value" than Xbox Gold.
THAT SAID, even if Gold didn't offer me anything more than the ability to play online with my friends, I would still gladly pay $60 a year just for that. (Assuming I couldn't find it for half that on Amazon, which is almost always the case.) Why? Because I like Xbox Live better than PSN. Between the party chats, network stability, ease of use, and just general "feel" of the thing, it just fits my style better, and, for me, is worth the price of admission.
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Not only that, but every time I post this:
they send me a new Xbox!
@sayword, Ardent Snow
"Free shit? This isnt fucking free and everyone has a right to complain about this. You pay 60 bucks a year and they are basing these rewards through achievements? I still dont understand how most of you like xbl is a better option than ps+"
"You can pay $50 a year for PS+ (optional) and get hundreds of dollars in games to play. Or pay $60 a year for live and get 1% reward on purchases?"
First of all, nobody was comparing this to PS+ (which I'll get to in a minute). In fact, nobody was talking about PS+ at all until you brought it up.
Second, for the record, you get a bit more for your $60 Gold subscription than this paltry 1%, such as the weekly Deal (which more than covers the price of Gold if you're into downloading games and/or DLC) and the aforementioned Rewards program, from which I've personally earned 1850 Microsoft points (~$23) for doing nothing more than taking a one minute survey every month and purchasing things that I had already planned on buying anyway. Again, I'm not comparing Gold to PS+, I'm just saying that you DO get more than just the ability to play online with your $60, which is something people commonly (purposefully?) forget to mention.
Now, on to PS+. I've been using it for about three months now, and I can say, without any hesitation, that it is one of the best deals in gaming. Not only do you commonly see brand new games given away for free (Double Dragon Neon) or discounted on day one (Counter-Strike GO), but the amount of older games and DLC they're constantly adding to their free section is so good it's overwhelming. And once you get over the fact that you're just "renting" these games for ~$5 a month (cheaper than GameFly, for the record) and just start enjoying it for what it is, there is NO denying that it is a better "value" than Xbox Gold.
THAT SAID, even if Gold didn't offer me anything more than the ability to play online with my friends, I would still gladly pay $60 a year just for that. (Assuming I couldn't find it for half that on Amazon, which is almost always the case.) Why? Because I like Xbox Live better than PSN. Between the party chats, network stability, ease of use, and just general "feel" of the thing, it just fits my style better, and, for me, is worth the price of admission.
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@myandydixon I'm not a fanboy of anything. I do game on PS3 and PC. I am not saying either console is better. Because frankly I have barely played 360. What lead me to ps+ arguement was the people saying this is free money. When the price of admission is $60 a year. Then I started thinking about what I would rather do with that $60.
@ZeroDown Sure. Quite frankly, PSN is a half-assed effort from Sony. That doesn't mean XBL isn't horribly overpriced, and Sony still offers far better perks with PS+ than Microsoft does with XBL Gold.
You gotta be fucking kidding, seriously now? Seriously? Let's just whore everything out. Nothing is sacred. Fuck video games.
you'd have to play video games alot in order for this to even have a point. I don't have xbox anymore but I originally bought one in February 2006 and I never even hit 10,000
@Brad Nieder
I stopped using them years ago, not looked back since. Waste of time and money, both services.
I stopped using them years ago, not looked back since. Waste of time and money, both services.
Love that header. Waiting for M$ to give you stuff for gamer score? "You gotta hold your breath." lol
Heh, I was surprised it wasn't Avatar stuff too, Jordan.
But nah, this seems fine. I really didn't get how they'd come to a conclusion on a really fair way to do this, in the first place, unless it was nothing more the nonsense Avatar stuff. And like Andy said, I'm a pretty big fan of it too, Since I joined this and Bing Rewards I hadn't had to pay for MS point for about 2 years (like Kwikpwn said) until this past August when a lot of things came out, like ME3's Leviathan DLC, Walking Dead Ep3, Skyrim's Hearthfire DLC and other stuff I couldn't wait on a sale for (though, in hindsight, despite having a 100% in Skyrim achievements now, I could have waited for Hearthfire)
Plus, I'm a bit of an achievement whore any way, so this just makes me feel better for spending so much time trying to get them.
My mind is just completely blown by the rest of you who are complaining about this. Your getting something for doing things the system forces you to get any way (unless the achievements are hard or hidden)... It just doesn't make sense to be this pissy over it when Microsoft doesn't have to give us shit, specially since they really haven't for years (I have a big problem with their contests and refunds as it is, they technically still owe me 800ms points from both last Halloween and a promotion the year before that.). Yeah, its no PSN+, its not free games, but its better then nothing at all.
So, my question is, is this why I randomly got 240ms point for absolutely no reason, marked as "Credit" in my Microsoft Billing and Subscriptions page? Cause Supposedly they had a spend 1600 on sports DLC promotion that gave back 240ms points recently, but I don't play Sports games, nor do I buy Sports DLC (durrr) so there was really no reason for them to give me points. Not that I'm complaining, I just found it odd to get points I wasn't expecting (I keep tabs on my monthly survey points from Rewards Surveys)
Also I want to note, Microsoft's online store is doing a kinda sweet promo where if you pre-order an upcoming game, like RE6 (though there isn't much time for that) AC3, and other big names, they'll give you a $10 coupon for a future purchase and 1600ms points (both get sent to you when the game ships). Halo 4 doesn't give MS points, but the coupon gets bumped up to $25, which isn't too shabby either. Microsoft is either really in trouble and wants the business, or they're at least attempting to have a soul.
But nah, this seems fine. I really didn't get how they'd come to a conclusion on a really fair way to do this, in the first place, unless it was nothing more the nonsense Avatar stuff. And like Andy said, I'm a pretty big fan of it too, Since I joined this and Bing Rewards I hadn't had to pay for MS point for about 2 years (like Kwikpwn said) until this past August when a lot of things came out, like ME3's Leviathan DLC, Walking Dead Ep3, Skyrim's Hearthfire DLC and other stuff I couldn't wait on a sale for (though, in hindsight, despite having a 100% in Skyrim achievements now, I could have waited for Hearthfire)
Plus, I'm a bit of an achievement whore any way, so this just makes me feel better for spending so much time trying to get them.
My mind is just completely blown by the rest of you who are complaining about this. Your getting something for doing things the system forces you to get any way (unless the achievements are hard or hidden)... It just doesn't make sense to be this pissy over it when Microsoft doesn't have to give us shit, specially since they really haven't for years (I have a big problem with their contests and refunds as it is, they technically still owe me 800ms points from both last Halloween and a promotion the year before that.). Yeah, its no PSN+, its not free games, but its better then nothing at all.
So, my question is, is this why I randomly got 240ms point for absolutely no reason, marked as "Credit" in my Microsoft Billing and Subscriptions page? Cause Supposedly they had a spend 1600 on sports DLC promotion that gave back 240ms points recently, but I don't play Sports games, nor do I buy Sports DLC (durrr) so there was really no reason for them to give me points. Not that I'm complaining, I just found it odd to get points I wasn't expecting (I keep tabs on my monthly survey points from Rewards Surveys)
Also I want to note, Microsoft's online store is doing a kinda sweet promo where if you pre-order an upcoming game, like RE6 (though there isn't much time for that) AC3, and other big names, they'll give you a $10 coupon for a future purchase and 1600ms points (both get sent to you when the game ships). Halo 4 doesn't give MS points, but the coupon gets bumped up to $25, which isn't too shabby either. Microsoft is either really in trouble and wants the business, or they're at least attempting to have a soul.
"Not completely terrible" is probably the best compliment you can give the program. Oh well. Getting a few cents back on your investment is better than nothing, I guess.
Meh, it's okay. I think they should do a program like PS Plus. That's why I'm such a big fan of PS Plus. I get free games, themes and might I add, those are some times brand new games.
As a guy who literally picks up pennies I find on the ground, I can see the value in this.
Having said that, the details of the deal and what I had in the back of my mind from the headline were miles apart. I thought MS had a really great PR/customer appreciation program planned, but it's essentially just a 1% or 2% reduction in their pricing, so long as you pony up the dough for Gold of course.
Having said that, the details of the deal and what I had in the back of my mind from the headline were miles apart. I thought MS had a really great PR/customer appreciation program planned, but it's essentially just a 1% or 2% reduction in their pricing, so long as you pony up the dough for Gold of course.
Well considering it caps out at 25,000, this doesn't add any incentive to keep getting them. I passed that like a year after the system came out and now have nearly 6 times that at 148,612 points.
well wait.. is it from earning this gamescore from here on out or based on what we currently have? I'm at 51000 as it is, and while i love achievements, m kind of past the "freak out and get every achievement in every game" phase with the exception of my ongoing quest to finish 100% in all things Dead rising and Halo. If its here on out then i could careless, but if its retroactive to our current score then that 2% is mine
2%... this is why I don't have a gold membership anymore. That and paying a ridiculous fee (that can be difficult to get out of) for something that shouldn't have to be paid for.
So according to people I HAVE to be grateful for this. I suppose then I HAVE to be grateful if somebody hands me shit for no particular reason as well.
Also funny how nobody pays any attention to the fact you need Gold for this and need to pay for DLC to have any benefit at all. So what it comes down to is you are not getting a reward for your GS. But rather your Gold and DLC purchases.
Having to spend money to get a tiny bit back is not reward for having a gamerscore. It's not a reward or present at all.
Now I am not saying they should scrap this deal all together, for frequent buyers getting 2% back will amount to something in time. I am saying that having to be grateful to MS for this according to some, is unreasonable.
Also funny how nobody pays any attention to the fact you need Gold for this and need to pay for DLC to have any benefit at all. So what it comes down to is you are not getting a reward for your GS. But rather your Gold and DLC purchases.
Having to spend money to get a tiny bit back is not reward for having a gamerscore. It's not a reward or present at all.
Now I am not saying they should scrap this deal all together, for frequent buyers getting 2% back will amount to something in time. I am saying that having to be grateful to MS for this according to some, is unreasonable.
Mr Andy Dixon:
You are so blinkered it is frankly ridiculous.
You HAVE to compare it to PS+ quite simply because MS and Sony are clear rivals in this arm of business. I repeat what I said earlier: in business, you are only as good as your competition. And when you compare the two, it is quite embarrassing.
One can get MORE discount on a single PSN purchase due to having PS+ than a whole year of purchases through this new "rewards" scheme. That's not even beginning to mention the obvious tons of games you don't pay an extra penny for (I've had just under £800 worth this year).
So saying that PS+ shouldn't be brought up is a completely foolish thing to say. It's perfectly relevant, and frankly obvious.
Now, before you bring me down to your level, and accuse me of fanboyism, I'll repeat again that I have no allegiance to any console or platform - I own more than most people would believe - and that I already qualify for the highest tier of Xbox rewards, but the fact remains quite clear. If I'm considering buying a game on the Marketplace, how does that 2% reward stack up (considering also the imbalance of points that you usually have to buy too) compared to via PSN, where they often get discounts of 5% minimum, or possibly will end up free anyway?
So, you might not think it relevant, but I assure you any sensible person does, and I can guarantee it's extremely poignant to those at MS and Sony respectively.
Ms do some good things, but this isn't one of them, and frankly it IS insulting.
You are so blinkered it is frankly ridiculous.
You HAVE to compare it to PS+ quite simply because MS and Sony are clear rivals in this arm of business. I repeat what I said earlier: in business, you are only as good as your competition. And when you compare the two, it is quite embarrassing.
One can get MORE discount on a single PSN purchase due to having PS+ than a whole year of purchases through this new "rewards" scheme. That's not even beginning to mention the obvious tons of games you don't pay an extra penny for (I've had just under £800 worth this year).
So saying that PS+ shouldn't be brought up is a completely foolish thing to say. It's perfectly relevant, and frankly obvious.
Now, before you bring me down to your level, and accuse me of fanboyism, I'll repeat again that I have no allegiance to any console or platform - I own more than most people would believe - and that I already qualify for the highest tier of Xbox rewards, but the fact remains quite clear. If I'm considering buying a game on the Marketplace, how does that 2% reward stack up (considering also the imbalance of points that you usually have to buy too) compared to via PSN, where they often get discounts of 5% minimum, or possibly will end up free anyway?
So, you might not think it relevant, but I assure you any sensible person does, and I can guarantee it's extremely poignant to those at MS and Sony respectively.
Ms do some good things, but this isn't one of them, and frankly it IS insulting.
@crunchyfrog555 When you get up from a chair, I lean down and smell the seat. It smells like fanboyism.
Microsoft should pay us to play their games, but they don't cause theyre all so greedy, damn corporations! Except Sony. They care about society and the public good.
Microsoft probably wouldn't pay my mortgage either. But they should! I said they should so if they don't it shows theyre just greedy and out to keep their money!
If they don't boost the reward to 100% I'll kill myself and th blood is on their cash-greased palms.
Microsoft probably wouldn't pay my mortgage either. But they should! I said they should so if they don't it shows theyre just greedy and out to keep their money!
If they don't boost the reward to 100% I'll kill myself and th blood is on their cash-greased palms.
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