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Lets just see how it turns out. Visceral isn't gonna forget how to make a Dead Space game. Give em a chance. They might actually figure out a way to shut EA up and still make a good game. I like how they managed to reconcile the SP and co-op thing, so maybe they'll pull off a similar miracle with this EA shit.
Anticipation of game not diminished.
Anticipation of game not diminished.
Well... They lost my purchase. I don't play Dead Space for mainstream action. I play it to be afraid. If it isn't scary, it's not Dead Space.
I'll pass. :'(
I'll pass. :'(
Oh it seems I read that wrong. It's definitely NOT getting away from gore and horror.
Nevermind. Still on the maybe train.
Nevermind. Still on the maybe train.
When EA said that DS2 was going to more action-y, everyone (including me) got incredibly worried.
And Visceral made it work.
And now they're adding in a teency bit more action, enemies with guns, more open environments and co-op.
Hopefully they can do it again.
This might be one of the very games I stay almost completely clear of until release.
And Visceral made it work.
And now they're adding in a teency bit more action, enemies with guns, more open environments and co-op.
Hopefully they can do it again.
This might be one of the very games I stay almost completely clear of until release.
I saw a listing of this game on Reddit which someone pulled from the EA website or somewhere, and the genre was listed as "action/adventure". So yeah, EA are fucking it up and they're not even trying to hide it.
You need 5 million in sales to continue an IP like Dead Space? Jesus Christ, will it be 10 million for the 720/PS4 generation?
Every single time a dev/publisher has tried to broaden the audience by adding in extra action and mechanics that simplify the gameplay, I've almost always hated it. I'm really tired of the trend of series trying to "broaden the audience" and end up ruining what made the game special in the first place. Well, fuck it. That's one less game that I'll (most likely) not buy.
"Broaden the audience" - I love buzz phrases.
Anyway, EA will continue to throw money at Dead Space. They have too much invested in it, and they'll be goddamned if they're going to throw that all away and settle for anything less than a blockbuster.
They kept throwing money at Mass Effect until it became a shooter, though, and none of the Mass Effect games have sold as well as Dead Space 1. I don't doubt that they made the majority of their profits on DLC in both cases, but it's funny to think that DS1 could sell more copies than any ME game and still be a disappointment in the eyes of EA.
Anyway, EA will continue to throw money at Dead Space. They have too much invested in it, and they'll be goddamned if they're going to throw that all away and settle for anything less than a blockbuster.
They kept throwing money at Mass Effect until it became a shooter, though, and none of the Mass Effect games have sold as well as Dead Space 1. I don't doubt that they made the majority of their profits on DLC in both cases, but it's funny to think that DS1 could sell more copies than any ME game and still be a disappointment in the eyes of EA.
EA has got to be the worst marketing abilities in the industry. No joke. Sure, other AAA developers have made their games look bad. But every time someone at that company opens their face hole, they make buying their games seem completely unappealing. Dead Space 2 already went through "Your Mom will Hate this Game" horseshit, and now the franchise must suffer more marketing facepalms?
EA, just please, PLEASE let the game speak for itself. It's Dead Space 3, we know it exists, now please do yourselves a favor and shut up.
EA, just please, PLEASE let the game speak for itself. It's Dead Space 3, we know it exists, now please do yourselves a favor and shut up.
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I want someday to hear that they 're gonna add split screen again..They are so creedy that they removed split screen even from sport/racing games like NFS&SSX!
I want someday to hear that they 're gonna add split screen again..They are so creedy that they removed split screen even from sport/racing games like NFS&SSX!
Next Dragon Age III will appeal to an even broader audience, but still keep the original audience in mind even though they're all gone.
I hate how bringing a game to a mainstream audience means stripping away features, dumbing it down, take away control, and adding more flashes and explosions.
Have they ever thought of advertising a game more, instead of simplifying it to help it reach the mainstream?
I hate how bringing a game to a mainstream audience means stripping away features, dumbing it down, take away control, and adding more flashes and explosions.
Have they ever thought of advertising a game more, instead of simplifying it to help it reach the mainstream?
I don't understand EA's mentality of "everything must appeal to the mainstream and sell shitloads to be made". Of course they want to get as much money as they can, but it's not like you can't have profit appealing to "niches".
At this point, I'd rather Dead Space 3 just be a game-length version of the legendary "Dead Space 3 Rumors" story comment section. Goddamn that was a fun night.
For reference: http://www.destructoid.com/dead-space-3-accidentally-confirmed--211915.phtml
For reference: http://www.destructoid.com/dead-space-3-accidentally-confirmed--211915.phtml
In B4 EA announces Deadspace3 will be a F2P Social web browser game headed to Facebook somewhere around summer 2013!
Is it weird that I read the headline as "To Appeal To A 'Bro Audience'?"
Also, is that any less correct?
Also, is that any less correct?
Couldn't they just not spend millions of dollars in advertising and not have to sell five million copies of a game because the ad department pissed away all their budget?
Sigh.
I guess I'll have to look forward to my less anticipated games like; Bioshock Infinite, The Last of Us, God of War Ascension, Borderlands Two, and maybe Counter Strike: GO :(
I guess I'll have to look forward to my less anticipated games like; Bioshock Infinite, The Last of Us, God of War Ascension, Borderlands Two, and maybe Counter Strike: GO :(
DS3 might be the only Dead Space game I'll be able to play without getting too scared. That said, given the choice, I'd much rather have Visceral/EA keep Dead Space doing what it does best and not play it, rather than have them water it down with more action-y stuff.
Gore (which this game has plenty of) is not the same thing as horror. (which this game has none of) Stop pretending any of these games are scary in any capacity.
So do they have to keep making franchises broader and broader or what? Because I thought Dead Space 2 was pretty broad and sold well. I don't see why they have to homogenise these things just because they want to keep pushing their sales up, something's gotta give at some point.
@homohabilis: yep, http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/14/why-do-people-hate-ea
EA has to sell over 5 million copies to pay for these kind of articles.
EA has to sell over 5 million copies to pay for these kind of articles.
Dead Space is just an action game with some horror elements anyway. I'm not sure how they could make it more broadly appealing, it's already about as mainstream as a game can get.
5 million in sales or death? I wonder how many subscribers that EA thinks The Old Republic must have. Because by that metric, that's a tactic admission tOR and it's 200 million investment is a colossal failure. That's our EA! 5 million or less is a failure and somehow raping an old IP like Syndicate by taking the path of least resistance and turning it into a shooter qualifies as a 'risk'
Die in a fire, EA.
Die in a fire, EA.
so by adding humans to the enemies list and giving it co-op they are selling to a broader audience? i dont understand that. how does adding an enemy type or a mode thats in alot of games as it is make it more appealing to more people?
if people want to play or buy it they will, i dont think COD(example) fans are like "gee i would so buy dead space 3 if only it had humans i could gun down with a buddy in an open world cause thats all i play"
if people want to play or buy it they will, i dont think COD(example) fans are like "gee i would so buy dead space 3 if only it had humans i could gun down with a buddy in an open world cause thats all i play"
So frickin' weird. I think EA is letting their obsession with outdoing Call of Duty ruin all their games. They didn't get it with Battlefield 3, or even Mass Effect 3, so screw it! Dead Space becomes a multiplayer war FPS, too.
What is it with the 3's? Is that the tipping point when the series has enough of a name that you can get away with converting it to a FPS and no one will grumble much?
What is it with the 3's? Is that the tipping point when the series has enough of a name that you can get away with converting it to a FPS and no one will grumble much?
The thing that pisses me off is the fact that it makes getting Platinum trophies impossible if you're not an online gamer. I'm an impossible difficulty playthrough from platinuming DS1. I read that you don't need the multiplayer trophies on DS2 for the platinum, & I really hope you don't need to co-op DS3 for that, or it's never going to happen.
Other than that, I'll wait & see what reception Dead Space 3 gets when it releases, & completely ignore any twaddle that EA spout.
Other than that, I'll wait & see what reception Dead Space 3 gets when it releases, & completely ignore any twaddle that EA spout.
Ea, making games broader and broader until they are generic, paper thin waifs anyone can stomach.
Also, can ign be destructoids official or unoffical rival? Because seriously, those tools (contributors and patrons alike) suck corporate dong 80 percent of the time. Rawr, contrary opinions!
Also, can ign be destructoids official or unoffical rival? Because seriously, those tools (contributors and patrons alike) suck corporate dong 80 percent of the time. Rawr, contrary opinions!
Hell yea TOR was a huge failure bro.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/15/bioware-looking-at-free-to-play-for-the-old-republic
On it's way to f2p
http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/15/bioware-looking-at-free-to-play-for-the-old-republic
On it's way to f2p
EA is not making money on games. In fact, I don't doubt for a second that EA is producing these games knowing full well they'll never make enough of a profit on them to truly profit on them.
Why do you think everything is becoming a vessel for DLC? EA may or may not need to sell 5 million copies of a game to profit, but that doesn't matter. EA is making their money on digital services, not retail games. They're setting everything they can up to be a platform for continued DLC sales, not because they're greedy, but because they're bloated.
Why do you think everything is becoming a vessel for DLC? EA may or may not need to sell 5 million copies of a game to profit, but that doesn't matter. EA is making their money on digital services, not retail games. They're setting everything they can up to be a platform for continued DLC sales, not because they're greedy, but because they're bloated.
EA is making it easier and easier to pass on this game, and I LOVED the first two.
It seems like every year EA does more and more to make the thought of buying one of their games feel more distasteful.
It seems like every year EA does more and more to make the thought of buying one of their games feel more distasteful.
I feel like it wasn't too long ago that a game could sell a million and be considered a huge success. Now a game has to sell five million just to be considered a marginally worthwhile endeavor?
@tekbunny: I agree. They always seem ike they're the first to. Defend EA and other big corporations alike.
Also the amount of fanboyism among their journalist *cough* greg miller *cough*
Also the amount of fanboyism among their journalist *cough* greg miller *cough*
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