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Of course they fucking would. Personally I quit Battlefield 3 when it was announced, and I'm hoping I'm not the only one.
Millions of people have signed up and ponied up the cash for these "enhanced services." Wasn't there like 800,000+ people that already signed up and paid for Battlefield Premium?
As far as EA is concerned, WHY THE HELL NOT?! LOOK AT ALL THIS MONEY MANG!
As far as EA is concerned, WHY THE HELL NOT?! LOOK AT ALL THIS MONEY MANG!
I know so many people from my work who bought it. idk I have bf3 on my pc but I'm not motivated enough to play the multiplayer, and even less to pay 50 bucks for new maps. no thanks...
Considering the last EA game I purchased before BF3 was BF:BC2, I don't really plan on giving them too much of my money.
So far I'm loving Premium, keep the double XP coming!
So far I'm loving Premium, keep the double XP coming!
Heres how I feel. I play a lot of Battlefield 3, so I would buy the expansions, because I want to play more of this game online. More maps, more weapons, more challenges, yes please. If I were to buy all the expansions for BF3 separately, it's $75. So give me Premium where I only pay $50. Why complain about Premium then? It's saving me money.
Well, if people insist on paying them, then good for them.
Personally, I stopped giving EA money long ago and have never felt I've been missing out because of it.
Personally, I stopped giving EA money long ago and have never felt I've been missing out because of it.
If companies make money then they'll continue doing it. If gamers really WERE as pissed as you think they'd be, it wouldn't be profitable and it wouldn't be continued. Mind you that they also need money for necessities, etc. etc.
I stopped playing Battlefield 3 cause of that dumb sh1t. They left the game broken for so long (Dart glitch), and they showed little signs of giving a crap. All they care about is pumping out more crappy content and getting more of my $ than actually fixing the game.
I may or may not have a problem with this. Depends on who and from where they're doing the sucking from.
Dammit, I was hoping that this was going to be DeMartini. I prefer to laugh at his dumb comments. Regardless, people need to stop putting up with this shit and start putting away their wallets after the original purchase, because this is already getting out of control.
well they are going to release dlc anyway and for games like battlefield it can help if everyone either doesn't buy dlc or does so I guess that its not that bad. However I would not really buy it especially considering I am done with bf3 anyway. Especially now that I can play the Ravaged beta, that game is just amazing.
Innovative, value, great for business...
I'm almost getting to the point of giving up, where I actually WANT to see the industry crash and burn. On top of everything else, the spite that these bastards constantly show us is really the tipping point imo.
These fucks have almost completly destroyed a beloved hobby, and we as gamers are making them filthy rich doing it
Money money money, hubba hubba hubba! Who you gonna trust?
I'm almost getting to the point of giving up, where I actually WANT to see the industry crash and burn. On top of everything else, the spite that these bastards constantly show us is really the tipping point imo.
These fucks have almost completly destroyed a beloved hobby, and we as gamers are making them filthy rich doing it
Money money money, hubba hubba hubba! Who you gonna trust?
They will do whatever they want and charge whatever they want until people stop buying their games.
Fuck you, EA.
Fuck you, EA.
I love BF3, I was going to buy all the DLC anyway, this saved me money. If this bothers/offends you, good.
If people want these services and they find it worth their money to get them, I say good for them and good for EA for providing something people want. No need to call anyone stupid or greedy, it's a win/win situation. Certainly not my thing, but lots of people seem to disagree with me and that's awesome.
Any one of us is perfectly free to avoid the games that include these services, and I absolutely plan to do so. I'm sure EA doesn't mind.
Any one of us is perfectly free to avoid the games that include these services, and I absolutely plan to do so. I'm sure EA doesn't mind.
well they are going to release dlc anyway and for games like battlefield it can help if everyone either doesn't buy dlc or does so I guess that its not that bad. But if they have scemes like this they better announce them before they sell you the first dlc (which I got with my preorder). and what makes it so bad in the case of battlefield is that they add special premium features, they also spam it in battlelog, if they didn't do that and just offered it from the start as an option to buy all future dlc bundled I would actually find nothing wrong with it. Not that I would buy it as I am done with battlefield 3 anyway and especially now that I am playing the Ravaged beta I see no reason to install bf3 ever again.
@Jakysan
There was a time when PC games got custom maps made by users FOR FREE. You would join a server and if it was running a custom map, it would download and install automatically before you joined. It was a beautiful era that's long lost now.
You're not saving money, PC games have been hogtied by developers so they can milk you of your money. If you believe you're saving money, you've been brainwashed. Break free.
There was a time when PC games got custom maps made by users FOR FREE. You would join a server and if it was running a custom map, it would download and install automatically before you joined. It was a beautiful era that's long lost now.
You're not saving money, PC games have been hogtied by developers so they can milk you of your money. If you believe you're saving money, you've been brainwashed. Break free.
The vanilla Battlefield 3 is still loaded with enough content to justify its price point and many people still play the original maps. The online pass sucks but it also sucks for Resistance 3, Uncharted 3 and every other game that includes it. Of course, not being EA they generally get a pass on criticism.
Premium is no different to the season passes apart from the unfair inclusion of server priority. I bought it just yesterday, I still love BF3 and it is a much cheaper way to get all the expansions while people still play them. I enjoyed Karkand (got it with the LE) and I am liking Close Quarters.
EA still suck of course, but they are far from the only deserving target.
Premium is no different to the season passes apart from the unfair inclusion of server priority. I bought it just yesterday, I still love BF3 and it is a much cheaper way to get all the expansions while people still play them. I enjoyed Karkand (got it with the LE) and I am liking Close Quarters.
EA still suck of course, but they are far from the only deserving target.
I'd like to officially thank the gullible suckers buying Battlefield Premium for giving EA more reason to try and monetize games further than they already do.
Yeah, putting subscription deals on games bleeding more money out of the player is "innovative." I wonder what happened to the term of innovation to making better games and not better cash grabs?
Honestly, besides battlelog, the only thing I can say is bad about battlefield 3 is that it's broken. Getting stuck between walls, unable to walk over a 3 inch rock/step, unable to knife even though I'm balls deep in some guys anus and all it does is pull out the knife- not even a slash, sound going out, lag, glitchy/missing reload animations, unable to vault over rails/ledges/obstacles but apparently you vault up stairs if you run and jump while going upstairs (wtf?), spotty hit detection, enemy getting knife takedown while shooting them face to face, and for the love of god THE CONSTANT FUCKING FREEZING! Tired of resetting the PS3 and have to wait the 5 minutes it takes to actually load the game for it to play with its constant loading and saving. You press start when it says press start and IT SAVES. Why would you save at that particular time?! Then it loads fucking stats. Then retrieves them. Oh yeah, almost forgot, trophy sync! Wtf. Sad part is, I still play it a lot. I just don't know when the rage will outweigh the fun. I wonder if xbox users have these problems?
Hope that this does not mean, that they want to bring it to Fifa :(
On the other side, most people rioting are the people who dont play these games active anyway.
On the other side, most people rioting are the people who dont play these games active anyway.
I bought Premium not too long ago... not for the extra knife, not for the guns, not for the challenges/assignments, not for the exclusive tags or whatever else...
Purely and simply, I bought Premium, because it made the coming map packs cheaper. $50 for the map packs combined, rather than $15-20 each? SIGN ME UP!
Purely and simply, I bought Premium, because it made the coming map packs cheaper. $50 for the map packs combined, rather than $15-20 each? SIGN ME UP!
You know, I really want to hate Activision and Ubisoft, I really do, but these fuckers just keep taking all my hate.
Without the Battlefield series being worth playing anymore, thankfully I don't have to buy shitty EA games anymore.
Without the Battlefield series being worth playing anymore, thankfully I don't have to buy shitty EA games anymore.
"Gamers are their own undoing."
In all honesty, this.
It's the same thing with shit like horse armor, if devs/publishers can put out such stupid shit out there and make a quick buck, then honestly more power to them, of course there's that line to not cross on the "more power to them", but for shit like Premium, best of look to them.
In all honesty, this.
It's the same thing with shit like horse armor, if devs/publishers can put out such stupid shit out there and make a quick buck, then honestly more power to them, of course there's that line to not cross on the "more power to them", but for shit like Premium, best of look to them.
It's not about value for money, or adding extra, or any of that shit. The only reason shit like this exists is because it's propping up the failing AAA model, which is, and has been for years, losing money.
Things like this exist only to subsidize the failing AAA development model. This doesn't mean this stuff is inherently evil, but let's call it exactly what it is: a crutch publishers are completely dependent on to stay afloat. EA especially, considering they're in particularly bad shape, and damn near all of their profit is coming from digital services.
EA's ambition to add these kinds of premium services to games is EA telling us they plan on sticking with their failing business model until it crashes into the Earth.
Things like this exist only to subsidize the failing AAA development model. This doesn't mean this stuff is inherently evil, but let's call it exactly what it is: a crutch publishers are completely dependent on to stay afloat. EA especially, considering they're in particularly bad shape, and damn near all of their profit is coming from digital services.
EA's ambition to add these kinds of premium services to games is EA telling us they plan on sticking with their failing business model until it crashes into the Earth.
Well, no. I decided not to get Premium because I think it is very overpriced. Same with "map packs", "DLC", "skins" and "enhancement packs". Charge a fair price, then we'll talk.
@Alan
I'm under the assumption you know at least a little bit about business, but EA is at the point know where it has it's hands in a lot of pies and while it could make money, it's basically at the point now where it's a fixture.
It goes up, it goes down, but generally speaking nothing ends up being "profitable" so it's goal is to stay afloat as long as possible and keep people employed as long as possible. It's definitely only a matter of time until EA crashes and burns (unless something completely changes in the next 5 years or so).
of course, it's more complicated than that but that's the layman expression of EAs current state. After that though, they are poking around seeing where they can make money but they'd never keep doing it if people didn't respond to it.
I'm under the assumption you know at least a little bit about business, but EA is at the point know where it has it's hands in a lot of pies and while it could make money, it's basically at the point now where it's a fixture.
It goes up, it goes down, but generally speaking nothing ends up being "profitable" so it's goal is to stay afloat as long as possible and keep people employed as long as possible. It's definitely only a matter of time until EA crashes and burns (unless something completely changes in the next 5 years or so).
of course, it's more complicated than that but that's the layman expression of EAs current state. After that though, they are poking around seeing where they can make money but they'd never keep doing it if people didn't respond to it.
@Konnery
The problem is that this is the same kind of suicidal short-sighted business that got them there. If this were a first measure, then that
d be one thing. But it isn't, they've spent years trying to stop the bleeding, and there were other measures well in place long before they decided digital services were the way forward.
Regardless of how well it does, and it doesn't need to be very popular to be successful thanks to its profit margin, they are still using it as a means of propping up a failing business model; a business model that has been failing spectacularly on nearly every conceivable front for years.
You're not going to stop your bleeding by pointing a gun into your bullet wound and shooting bullets into it until the hole is clogged with lead.
The problem is that this is the same kind of suicidal short-sighted business that got them there. If this were a first measure, then that
d be one thing. But it isn't, they've spent years trying to stop the bleeding, and there were other measures well in place long before they decided digital services were the way forward.
Regardless of how well it does, and it doesn't need to be very popular to be successful thanks to its profit margin, they are still using it as a means of propping up a failing business model; a business model that has been failing spectacularly on nearly every conceivable front for years.
You're not going to stop your bleeding by pointing a gun into your bullet wound and shooting bullets into it until the hole is clogged with lead.
Man, can anyone at EA issue a single statement without mentioning what a hardon they have for following Activision's lead on pretty much everything?
As a few people have said it is actually really good value IF you're planning on buying all the dlc.
5 huge expansion packs, more challenges, more unlocks, more fun.
What's the problem again?
Dumb mob mentality.
5 huge expansion packs, more challenges, more unlocks, more fun.
What's the problem again?
Dumb mob mentality.
like anyone actually bought this for anything other then the fact that the separate dlc packs would have costed double.
and double the already overpriced cost is something everyone wants to avoid
i'm still on the origin boycott though so they won't be seeing me anytime soon.
also their problem with steam was the way they had to update right?
wouldn't that mean that they'd have to put their games on steam after the complete edition is out?
and double the already overpriced cost is something everyone wants to avoid
i'm still on the origin boycott though so they won't be seeing me anytime soon.
also their problem with steam was the way they had to update right?
wouldn't that mean that they'd have to put their games on steam after the complete edition is out?
Meh... Whatever. It's cheaper than getting the map packs separately and you get a few extras with it. At least it adds something to the game and it's not day one on disc DLC. I dont really agree with the pricing but gaming is a luxury item, a hobby, and most hobbies are expensive. Example: paint ball. Providing your own equipment a one day adventure is still minimum $60.
Would I buy into a program like this for other games? Sure. IF I played said game as much as this one and perceived it as a value. I think that companies offering "season passes" really need to start detailing what those passes will include. A perfect example is SRTT. I preordered SRTT through THQ because I saw "season pass" and assumed (I know, I know) that that would include all content for their proposed "40 weeks of DLC". Luckily I didn't pay any extra for that pass or I would've been pissed (well... More pissed after I'd discovered they'd ruined that franchise but that's another story).
My point is this... I have no problems with them offering these services as long as its not a blatent cash grab.
Would I buy into a program like this for other games? Sure. IF I played said game as much as this one and perceived it as a value. I think that companies offering "season passes" really need to start detailing what those passes will include. A perfect example is SRTT. I preordered SRTT through THQ because I saw "season pass" and assumed (I know, I know) that that would include all content for their proposed "40 weeks of DLC". Luckily I didn't pay any extra for that pass or I would've been pissed (well... More pissed after I'd discovered they'd ruined that franchise but that's another story).
My point is this... I have no problems with them offering these services as long as its not a blatent cash grab.
@Bakewell
You're one-track-minding this. On it's face, it looks like a decent deal under some circumstances.
Now think beyond that, and try to understand that the only reason this stuff exists is to stop the bleeding that the AAA model is causing. The more and more this stuff gets crammed into things, the less EA does to address the problem at the root of things. The software market is contracting, and you're not going to achieve growth by doubling down on what caused the contraction in the first place.
So no, it's not a mob mentality. There's good reason why people feel this stuff is bad.
You're one-track-minding this. On it's face, it looks like a decent deal under some circumstances.
Now think beyond that, and try to understand that the only reason this stuff exists is to stop the bleeding that the AAA model is causing. The more and more this stuff gets crammed into things, the less EA does to address the problem at the root of things. The software market is contracting, and you're not going to achieve growth by doubling down on what caused the contraction in the first place.
So no, it's not a mob mentality. There's good reason why people feel this stuff is bad.
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