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EA to sell downloadable games prior to boxed versions photo

We have heard past comments out of Electronic Arts about how successful Battlefield 1943 was, and how the company would like to do more games in that vein. Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter has some clarification on how exactly this will be done going forward.

EA senior VP Nick Earl "revealed a strategy to release premium downloadable content (PDLC) as a product for sale prior to the release of a packaged product," explains Pachter. This PDLC would range in price from $10 - $15 for release on Xbox LIVE and PlayStation Network and "would essentially be a very long game demo, along the lines of 2009’s Battlefield 1943."

"A full-blown packaged game would follow shortly after the release of the PDLC, bearing a full retail price," continued Pachter. "The idea is that if the PDLC gets favorable reviews, it will build word of mouth for the boxed product. If the PDLC has issues, they can tweak the packaged product to address those issues, improving the final product before release."

If this sounds more than a little weird, I'm right there with you. My main concern with this strategy is that once you get the early digital version of a game, what's the incentive to go out and buy the full thing? Especially since the $10 to $15 you spent likely won't go toward the purchase of the retail product.

EA to release paid DLC before boxed games [GamesIndustry.biz]








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HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:33
HiddenAHB
So i have to pay twice for my gaems?
CoruptAI125's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:34
CoruptAI125
hat ould they put to make it worth a "full retail price"?
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:35
Sexualchocolate
So they want to SELL us a "long demo"??

Fuck off.

What was 1943 a demo for? Bad company 2? Really? I'm not seeing it myself.
titopaul's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:38
titopaul
Nick Earl has to be an idiot to use the word demo in this context. EA must realize as soon as you say demo, it has to be free. I expect clarification to smooth this out.
Space Moose's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:38
Space Moose
What a stupid idea. Sorry EA, I'm not gonna buy yout games twice
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:39
TewDee
Wow EA.

Digging that hole again I see.
StingingVelvet's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:40
StingingVelvet
Wow, how terrible.

I hope no one supports it, but given EA sells cheat codes and they must sell since EA keep doing it, I guess this might work.

Bah!
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:44
Occams electric toothbrush
Hmmmm....yeah, I'm not paying for a demo even if you call it a prequel.
Cr0ssbow's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:45
Cr0ssbow
I would up for this, if they did as Jordan said and gave an incentive to buy the full product, maybe with a rebate for 10 bucks on the full game if you bought the "pre-game"? I think that still makes plenty of business sense.
Jackson Starburst's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:46
Jackson Starburst
So I could buy a long demo for £10 then buy the game for £40 or i could just buy the game. Stupid idea.
HoodedMiracle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:47
HoodedMiracle
Ain't Capcom doin' something similar with Dead Rising 2?
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:50
KingSigy
The headline makes it sound like digital downloads would come first, but the actual strategy is just stupid.
dj-anon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:50
dj-anon
I prefer my demos free.
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:51
xaliqen
Wouldn't this just encourage people to make a really awesome demo?

I could see this potentially distracting the focus from polishing the full game in favour of creating the demo-version to build hype. Isn't there already enough of a hype-machine surrounding some of these games?

Personally, I generally don't play demos since they don't give a real sense of the game most of the time. I'm certainly not going to start playing demos if there's a price-tag attached.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:54
HarassmentPanda
I can understand pushing full retail games through digital channels first, but this sounds like they're going to charge me to playtest and market their software. I'll pass.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 14:55
CelicaCrazed
I can only see this working if you get a discount on the retail game after buying the downloadable one. Buy the $15 "demo", get $15 off the retail product. Otherwise no, DO NOT WANT!

Then again, BF1943 wasn't really a "full game" and I still feel like I got more than my monies worth....
enteringoblivion's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:03
enteringoblivion
"The idea is that if the PDLC gets favorable reviews, it will build word of mouth for the boxed product. If the PDLC has issues, they can tweak the packaged product to address those issues, improving the final product before release."

So it'd be like an online beta you pay for? And if it was more of a demo/beta, than there wouldn't be final reviews because it's not a complete product.

Whatever. I'm not paying $10-15 for an incomplete game.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:05
Corduroy Turtle
Only if it leads to a discount on the retail version. I really can't see how they could do that, however.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:08
Black Nexus
Making us pay to be beta testers (sigh) and EA was doing so good for a while too, but I see there ready to join activision on my blacklist again.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:13
Elsa
I don't want a "very long game demo" but if companies would start to think about selling their online game portion separate from the single player I could get behind that!

I would love to play Uncharted 2's multiplayer (especially the co-op), but I have little to no interest in the single player portion of the game.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:18
Dv8thwonder
This is the beginning of the end my friends.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:23
pokota
@enteringoblivion. Paying to play a beta test version was my first thought, as well. I'm not surprised, though. I'm sure the executives have been looking for a way to get people to pay for beta testing their product. Hopefully we'll also have to pay for the privilege of watching advertisements and promo game video. They'll probably call it Advance Visual Downloadable Content (AVDLC) and charge $5 a clip.

Personally, I've grown tired of lackluster DLC. I'm going to be a lot more picky about my DLC purchases in the future.
Thype's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:34
Thype
They already did this with their NBA franchise...
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 15:50
Stigmeyer
Hahaha! Who is in charge over there?? Why in the name of anything would people PAY for a DEMO??? This strikes me as the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever thought of (that I can think of now at least). You can just RENT the game for cheaper and you can likely finish the whole thing. Ugh. This stuff will only stop if we make sure it doesn't take off.
ran24's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:03
ran24
this is just a retarded idea that a marketing exec thought up when he was told to come up with an "innovative" idea.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:08
Drakengard
This actually wouldn't be bad if the PDLC went towards the final game copy. If EA would do that, then I wouldn't mind being a BETA tester at all. In fact, it might be beneficial to have so many gamers playing the game and being able to find all sorts of bugs and balance issues.

That said, it would appear that he PDLC would not go towards the game...so EA is essentially just being idiots. Yay, EA! Are there are non-money grubbing game developers out there anymore?
Jabanger's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:13
Jabanger
EA is smoking crack again. I would never spend $10-$15 to "try" a game. They can blow it our their arses!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:20
Sexualchocolate
@elsa good call! Me and you would be in the perfect situation if they would sell us the online portion for say, half price, could even be downloadable, then sell a full retail version including mp and sp!

I would love that.

Not to mention getting it before the main release.

Although i can imagine them holding more than the sp part back for the full release.

Oh to live in an ideal world!
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:25
xaliqen
@Elsa -- I'd want the opposite. If they sell single-player without multiplayer at a reduced price, then I'm all for it.
Ffordesoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:45
Ffordesoon
To everyone saying how dumb this idea is:

Mark my words, a year from now you will be eating this shit up. EA is many things, but it ain't dumb. Look past the EA logo and think of the practical applications of this.

Or, putting it another way: are you seriously trying to tell me that a Starcraft fan wouldn't pay ten bucks to be in the Starcraft II beta right now?

(YES I KNOW IT'S NOT EA I WAS MAKING A LARGER POINT SHUT UP)
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:58
xaliqen
Mark my words, a year from now you will be eating this shit up.

Uhh... no. It could be a year from now, or it could be ten years from now. I'll continue paying for full games and only full games.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 16:59
EdgyDude
When i read that headline before reading the whole post, for 1 second, i thought EA had finally found a way to improve digital sales of games, oh how wrong i was.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 17:30
Occams electric toothbrush
@Ffordesoon: EA doesn't own the rights to Starcraft II.
MrBounce's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 17:45
MrBounce
If the amount we pay for the demo is included when we buy the full retail, that's ok. I guess... But to pay for a demo, regardless of how long it is seems pretty lame. A free, long demo like the one for Darksiders made me go out and buy the game because I liked the demo. Now if the demo had been for pay, I doubt I would have touched it.
RudyChan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 17:48
RudyChan
I fail to see why publishers want us to pay EVEN MORE when we're already BROKE AS FUCK. FFFFUCK YOU!!
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 17:52
CelicaCrazed
I think people forgot the time they all bought the Halo 3 beta. Crackwuh??
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 18:32
king kong five
They're asking us to pay to beta test their games?
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 18:44
ScottyG
So... they want to charge us for demos then? :\

I hope they just did a poor job communicating this to us, because that's how I'm understanding it.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 18:44
pedrovay2003
So I'll be waiting to buy Dead Space 2, I see.
ration's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 18:49
ration
Are people being payed to come up with these ideas?
SithZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 19:21
SithZombie
That will teach us to buy their downloadable games. Next time I will wait
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 19:42
SourGr8pes
Uhh guys? Gran Turismo Prologue ring a bell to anyone?
Corbanski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 20:50
Corbanski
This idea is almost as bad as Sony's downgradeable game demos. What the hell, are developers trying to get us to hate them?
JoeSetsFire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/22/2010 21:56
JoeSetsFire
It's all about marketing talk, and this Michael Pachter fudged his words a little. I don't think any gamer wants to pay for a "really long demo" but has no problem forking out $10-15USD on a "Standlone multiplayer component". You could use both terms to describe BF: 1943, but I know which one makes me feel better as a consumer. I'm interested, are these Michale Pachter's words, or is he quoting Nick Earl when he says: "a really long demo"

In reality, I suppose the crux will be how they manage the distribution of the content. If the standalone DLC component really is self-contained (to a degree at least) and is a worthwhile purchase independently, such as with BF:1943, then this could be a good thing if it managed correctly.

If you are required to purchase both the downloadable content and the boxed game to gain the "full game experience" (there goes that marketing blurb again), then forums will be ablaze with hypocritical gamers who buy it anyway, then complain about it.
Fistynuts's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 06:54
Fistynuts
I'm a little confused at how BF:1943 can be described as a "demo". For what, the 8-year-old BF:1942? I don't think anyone's confusing or even associating it with BF:BC2.
Savethellama's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2010 09:28
Savethellama
were paying for demos, im out guys. I'll see you at the library.
Andrew5329's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/16/2010 14:48
Andrew5329
I wouldnt mind if they sold us a "Long Demo" worth a proportional part of the game that could later be upgraded (pay the remainder of the $60 price tag) to unlock the full game
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