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Did EA make Road Rash?
EA should make another Road Rash.
NOW EA!!! GO!!! NOW!!! RIGHT NOW!!! MAKE IT!!!
EA should make another Road Rash.
NOW EA!!! GO!!! NOW!!! RIGHT NOW!!! MAKE IT!!!
The reason Syndicate failed was because they were trying to force it in to an overcrowded genre. No one wanted that game, there were so many better examples in the genre to choose from. If they bring back an IP it should remain the same or a similar genre as it was originally, since that's what people are looking for when they see a game with a name they recognise. SSX worked because it did a real good job of making a game in a relatively dormant genre, and the IP carried a lot of weight with it. I would love to see old IPs resurrected but only if they are actually worth it. Only if seeing them again (and the genre that they are) is something that is unique and interesting. No-one wants some sub-par game of the genre that happens to be popular at the time with some inappropriate name slapped on which the fans of the genre probably don't even know about.
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Fair enough on the DS2 numbers. However, it was a claim, and the sales of DS2 still stand at 2.5 million. And if that claim is correct then sales dropped off a cliff after a week, and that's not at all something anyone at EA is jumping for joy over. In fact, they'd probably (and rightfully) consider it a serious cause for concern.
Mix that with what was almost certainly a higher budget, and sales that stand at ~1.1 million less than Dead Space 1, and you can see why EA wouldn't consider it a series as successful as gamers do.
Fair enough on the DS2 numbers. However, it was a claim, and the sales of DS2 still stand at 2.5 million. And if that claim is correct then sales dropped off a cliff after a week, and that's not at all something anyone at EA is jumping for joy over. In fact, they'd probably (and rightfully) consider it a serious cause for concern.
Mix that with what was almost certainly a higher budget, and sales that stand at ~1.1 million less than Dead Space 1, and you can see why EA wouldn't consider it a series as successful as gamers do.
"Syndicate was something that we took a risk on. It didn't pay off -- it didn't work."
Wait, huh? So, because it didn't sell a ton of copies, and the reviews weren't glowing across the board, that makes this a "failure"? Personally, I enjoyed the demo enough that I was going to buy it, but not at $60. The fact that FOUR MONTHS LATER it's still the exact same price (except on Amazon, but $42 is still too much in this case) tells me that EA has no fucking idea how to push a game that isn't immediately successful.
Wait, huh? So, because it didn't sell a ton of copies, and the reviews weren't glowing across the board, that makes this a "failure"? Personally, I enjoyed the demo enough that I was going to buy it, but not at $60. The fact that FOUR MONTHS LATER it's still the exact same price (except on Amazon, but $42 is still too much in this case) tells me that EA has no fucking idea how to push a game that isn't immediately successful.
Syndicate was a fun game. The co op is fantastic IMO. It just didn't need the syndicate name attached to it or a $60 price tag. It would have made a great $40 budget title.
Syndicate was a fun game. The co op is fantastic IMO. It just didn't need the syndicate name attached to it or a $60 price tag. It would have made a great $40 budget title.
I sure would love to tell EA that they are wrong about Sydnicate. Too bad my game is busted. Or is it Origin that's busted? I literally can not tell. Either way, I was really excited when I bought it, and then excited again 10 hours later when Origin realized that I had purchased it and made it available for download, and then excited again when it finished downloading 5 hours later, and then excited again when I booted it, and then completely let down when it did not run. Still waiting on a response to that trouble ticket, Origin.
I sure would love to tell EA that they are wrong about Sydnicate. Too bad my game is busted. Or is it Origin that's busted? I literally can not tell. Either way, I was really excited when I bought it, and then excited again 10 hours later when Origin realized that I had purchased it and made it available for download, and then excited again when it finished downloading 5 hours later, and then excited again when I booted it, and then completely let down when it did not run. Still waiting on a response to that trouble ticket, Origin.
Honestly what is up with the industries raging stiffy for shooters lately?
If not for amnesia I'd say we lost horror to them.
If not for amnesia I'd say we lost horror to them.
The marketing and release behind this were pretty shit. it was still a really fun game, just not one I'd spend 60 dollars on in its release window.
It almost seemed like they just dropped it out of development so they wouldn't have to invest anymore money in it.
It almost seemed like they just dropped it out of development so they wouldn't have to invest anymore money in it.
*sad picard facepalm*
It's shit like this that keeps confirming the fast alienation bewteen top people @ publishers/dev's and and the consumers they publish/dev their products for.
It's shit like this that keeps confirming the fast alienation bewteen top people @ publishers/dev's and and the consumers they publish/dev their products for.
I think it's a shame. There was a kernel for a potentially great game but instead made decision resulting in a middling experience.
First - the boss fights were stupid. You powers were limited in someway for these sections so you had to play the game the way the developers wanted you to play, I hate the kind of design philosophy. I want a sandbox of tools to play the way I want.
Speaking of powers - even when you had them, it discouraged you from using them. The game preferred you use your weapons. To me that's wasted opportunity.
They could've also expanded on the abilities at your disposle but instead you have 3.
At the end I wanted to lone this game but the developers did almost everything they could to prevent that. When the game clicked it was fun. But Just as I start to have fun the developers decided "we'll have none of that" and through a boss battle or other bad idea.
First - the boss fights were stupid. You powers were limited in someway for these sections so you had to play the game the way the developers wanted you to play, I hate the kind of design philosophy. I want a sandbox of tools to play the way I want.
Speaking of powers - even when you had them, it discouraged you from using them. The game preferred you use your weapons. To me that's wasted opportunity.
They could've also expanded on the abilities at your disposle but instead you have 3.
At the end I wanted to lone this game but the developers did almost everything they could to prevent that. When the game clicked it was fun. But Just as I start to have fun the developers decided "we'll have none of that" and through a boss battle or other bad idea.
Syndicate failed because it had terrible marketing, a multiplayer only demo, and not enough development time.
Oh, and there was absolutely fucking nothing special about it.
Oh, and there was absolutely fucking nothing special about it.
I agree that it was a risk to slap the name of a old IP on an FPS in a cynical attempt to draw in a preexisting fanbase.
Also, this:
"That's the nature of the business; some stuff works, some stuff doesn't."
That incredibly reductive statement isn't just business; it's life. Regardless, if something isn't working in business, that means it's time to try something else. And by that, I don't mean find another old IP to transform into an FPS!
Also, this:
"That's the nature of the business; some stuff works, some stuff doesn't."
That incredibly reductive statement isn't just business; it's life. Regardless, if something isn't working in business, that means it's time to try something else. And by that, I don't mean find another old IP to transform into an FPS!
MIRROR'S EDGE 2 NAO!!!
As I've said repeatedly, just make Mirror's Edge 2 like the LittleBigPlanet of FPSs. Basically, have a similarly long single player game (with all the time trials of course) and then put in a user-creation suite for people to build obstacle courses for people to race through.
Also, maybe the single player can have a New Game+ where the routes have been altered slightly so you have to find your way around again.
As I've said repeatedly, just make Mirror's Edge 2 like the LittleBigPlanet of FPSs. Basically, have a similarly long single player game (with all the time trials of course) and then put in a user-creation suite for people to build obstacle courses for people to race through.
Also, maybe the single player can have a New Game+ where the routes have been altered slightly so you have to find your way around again.
Or maybe they could have made Syndicate to BE Syndicate, instead of trying to turn it into CALL OF DUTY.
I remember when people used to have the brainpower to make good new IPs, instead of piggybacking existing IPs with ripoffs of other IPs.
I remember when people used to have the brainpower to make good new IPs, instead of piggybacking existing IPs with ripoffs of other IPs.
Charge less than 60 bucks for a AAA title? You blaspheme, my friends. EA would never offer us these marvelous gems for a lower price, why, that would devalue the games! No, no, no. Anyone who wants to enjoy these priceless works of art must pay dearly for the right, nay THE PRIVILEGE, to enjoy these masterpieces.
"Syndicate was something that we took a risk on."
Risk? They made it into the most assured-sale genre on the market! They'd have made a risk if it was a text-adventure, but not a fucking FPS.
Risk? They made it into the most assured-sale genre on the market! They'd have made a risk if it was a text-adventure, but not a fucking FPS.
So was that game an actual reboot? cause that sucks pretty bad if it was :/
"He said the SSX resurrection, at least, did well."
Well.. this kind of feels like a "No shit" sort of thing.. I mean SSX really couldn't go many directions.. I mean it was quite literally all down hill from the start. They didn't try to push it to be something it really wasn't. Syndicate really didn't have that ease as a luxury and they picked a pretty poor standard to go from for it.
"There are numerous IPs that I think about all the time like Command & Conquer and SimCity -- which is a brand we've brought back after seven years."
SimCity really wasn't gone for that long.. Out of the limelight, maybe, but blame The Sims for being so popular for that, don't act like SimCity was some.. Forgotten city, or something..
"Can't wait to see what EA turns into an FPS next! Theme Hospital? Dungeon Keeper?"
IDK.. Dungeon Keep could work.
"He said the SSX resurrection, at least, did well."
Well.. this kind of feels like a "No shit" sort of thing.. I mean SSX really couldn't go many directions.. I mean it was quite literally all down hill from the start. They didn't try to push it to be something it really wasn't. Syndicate really didn't have that ease as a luxury and they picked a pretty poor standard to go from for it.
"There are numerous IPs that I think about all the time like Command & Conquer and SimCity -- which is a brand we've brought back after seven years."
SimCity really wasn't gone for that long.. Out of the limelight, maybe, but blame The Sims for being so popular for that, don't act like SimCity was some.. Forgotten city, or something..
"Can't wait to see what EA turns into an FPS next! Theme Hospital? Dungeon Keeper?"
IDK.. Dungeon Keep could work.
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