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EA's failure to release Dark Knight game a financial fail, says analyst

8:38 AM on 08.08.2008, Nick Chester 47 comments

EA's failure to release Dark Knight game a financial fail, says analyst photo
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Speaking to the Associate Press (Via Edge) under anonymity, an Electronic Arts manager confirmed that Pandemic Studios was indeed producing a game based on the recent Batman flick, The Dark Knight. The AP piece speculates that the game may have been shelved due to quality concerns, actor Heath Ledger's passing, or poor sales potential.

Why so serious? Because industry analyst Michael Pacther feels the game could have sold four million units, a huge improvement over the abysmal sales of EA's Batman Begins which only moved 587,000 copies. Translated into the language that EA speaks so fluently (money), that's $100 million, $70 of which could have gone directly to the publisher.

Dark Knight actor Gary Oldman had spilled the beans to G4 about the game's existence in an interview recently, but a title had never officially been announced. According to the EA manager who backed up Oldman's claims, the game doesn't appear on EA's internal release list through March of 2009.

So would anyone buy this game based on the strength of the movie alone? If the quality of the title was poor, does anyone think consumers are smart enough to keep their purchases in check? Or do you think they'd blindly fork over cash for digital trashed based on the name alone?

 


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HarassmentPanda's Avatar
HarassmentPanda at 08/08/2008 08:47
I hope they opt to release a well made game around the time of the DVD release. Personally, I'm glad they didn't release a half-baked game alongside the film -- my heart couldn't have taken two disappointments.
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TorpedoTed at 08/08/2008 08:50
Batman Returns!! Now theres a game!!
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ajaxender at 08/08/2008 08:50
I would buy a good batman game in a flash. The potential is there.
I would not, however, buy a Dark Knight game. Games based on movies tend to either mess with the plot too much and get random and silly, or follow it too strongly and end up boring or annoying because of it. I bet a ton of other people would though, just cos 'OMG BATMAN THE DARK KNIGHT SO AWSUM YEAH!'.

I did think of this however - how about a Batman game, using the Assassins Creed engine (or similar)? You could make a huge Gotham city to run around in. Youve got random stuff happening on the streets all the time (would use Emotion engine for that). The climbing mechanics would suit it because they wouldnt be as much in focus; i felt they were too easy and boring to be as important as they were in AC, but for a Batman game youd have other methods of getting places - grappling hooks, using the cape, batmobile, etc etc. And the villains would be more interesting, of course, since theyre batman villains, theyre always crazy.
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Clance at 08/08/2008 08:51
I reckon they pushed it back because of last times poor sales. It wasn't ready, so why rush it out? That's what always happens and that's why the games turn out shite.

In this day and age when games are taking longer than ever to make, it probably means there will be an increase in games filtering out way after a film's release.

I say a DVD/game package (blu-ray for PS3) would be great business.
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ajaxender at 08/08/2008 08:51
Wait... not emotion engine... lol. I mean the Euphoria engine, not the old ps2 chip or whatever...
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Nick Chester at 08/08/2008 08:51
Anyone remember when they released a game based on Tim Burton's Batman for the Mega Drive? A friend of my imported that and we were both in heaven, despite the game's middle-of-the-road quality. I think he spent $70 on it.
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mikeyed at 08/08/2008 08:52
@ HarassmentPanda - Are you referring to the movie or Heath Ledger's death as the disappointment, cause we don't want to "blow" this conversation out of proportion, now do we?
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Cartman at 08/08/2008 08:57
@ Nick
I had Batman: Forever on the megadrive, if thats what you mean. That game was hot.
Anyway. BIG SHOCK; EA tried to make another movie game. Lucky someone told them it was GOING to be crap rather then the reviewers telling them.
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Timmeh at 08/08/2008 08:59
EA canned a game due to quality concerns? What is this witchcraft!
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Clance at 08/08/2008 09:01
@ Nick Chester,

I remember one on the C64. You had to swing the batmobile round with the wire on lamp posts and use the batwing scissors to cut those big balloons the joker had. It was great.

As for the open-world suggestion... A button you press to make Batman say "Car". The batmobile then shows up everytime like in the movie and you don't have to worry about throwing poor old ladies from their Nissan.
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Holyetheline at 08/08/2008 09:03
The movie was incredible... the game has a lot to live up to. I will be patient.
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Ambulance-Y at 08/08/2008 09:07
of course i would have bought a game based upon a movie, when has there ever been a game based upon a movie that WASN'T good? resident evil, silent hill, alone in the dark, doom, mario. all of those are great games that lived up to if not surpassed the greatness of the movie.

have you guys heard there's a game out based off that max payne movie coming out?
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Nick Chester at 08/08/2008 09:09
@Clance:

Oooh, that sounds fun. I might have to emulate that. Or buy a C64 on Ebay.

@Ambulancy:

I see what you did there ... ;)
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Cartman at 08/08/2008 09:10
@ Ambulance " When has there ever been a game based upon a movie that WASN'T good? " Sarcastic, Or no?
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TorpedoTed at 08/08/2008 09:17
@Nick you mean Batman Returns like i said in my post up there??...like streets of rage but with batman...i had it on my trusty snes, hours of fun! Tim Burton is awesome!
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Ambulance-Y at 08/08/2008 09:18
@ cartman: answer me this, which was better spiderman 2 the game or spiderman 2 the movie. then ask me if i was being sarcastic.
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Clance at 08/08/2008 09:19
@ Nick Chester,

Man this brings back memories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kP6z0ZH4pI

Listen to the fuckin' music too. Sorry but 'fuckin' music' is the only way I could talk about this game. Great stuff.
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Cartman at 08/08/2008 09:21
@ Ambulance: I know, I was being sarcastic. Its hard to tell on the internets.
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Ambulance-Y at 08/08/2008 09:23
canning the dark knight game was in their better intrests since it will be out sold many times over by lego batman.
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Clance at 08/08/2008 09:24
P.s. Swinging mechanics? Batman C64, look no further.
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Ambulance-Y at 08/08/2008 09:27
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SuitcoatAvenger at 08/08/2008 09:31
I'm pretty surprised that EA MONEY EATING MACHINE didn't try to cash in on the upcoming film. I suppose that the medicore sales of Batman Begins: Holy Shit I'm Fighting Oscar Schindler On A Train resulted in them getting cold feet, but I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and believe they've been working on the game for awhile now with the intent of releasing a good game as opposed to a decent one.

Know this, EA: The Dark Knight was amazing. You better f'n live up to it.
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atastysammich at 08/08/2008 09:33
They could've put jack shit into the game and still made mad sales. When popular licenses are involved, fun is optional! Right, THQ?
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EternalDeathSlayer at 08/08/2008 09:45
I remember enjoying the Batman game for the NES, based off the Micheal Keaton movie.

It was hard though. I think.

I was like 6.
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Professor Pew at 08/08/2008 09:51
Game will come with the movie on Bluray for $10 more.
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HarassmentPanda at 08/08/2008 09:53
@EDS

The NES Batman was good and had great music. Also, hard.
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ScanCase at 08/08/2008 10:00
either way I don't think we should have a game for this movie. In a way I think it would cheapen the movie especially since it will be coming out after the fact. On top of that we know its being rushed together so it will most likely be bad. Now if they made a game that's really good and worthy of the movie then I wouldn't be upset but I really doubt that will happen.
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NihonTiger90 at 08/08/2008 10:10
I say no to a Dark Knight game. I don't think it could ever live up to the film and we'd all see it as a disappointment.
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Rosseh at 08/08/2008 10:13
I agree with ScanCase. The fact this one didn't have a game makes it even better, possibly the best movie everever. I can't believe I'm saying this but...who cares about batman in this one anyway? It's not because he's dead, The Joker was freakin' awesome, perfect. I didn't think it was really about batman anyway, even though the message about him being "more than a hero" was great, it wasn't enforced as much i felt. Maybe that's just because I was loving that anarchist bastard!
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Antlerbot at 08/08/2008 10:15
"Translated into the language that EA speaks so fluently (money), that's $100 million, $70 of which could have gone directly to the publisher."

Sounds like that publisher needs a better agent.
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Brando at 08/08/2008 10:49
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superflossy at 08/08/2008 10:51
Hrm, on the one hand, I'm glad EA didn't ruin the "Dark Knight" name by putting out a shitty game. But on the other hand, I was talking to some of the folks from Pandemic at GDC earlier this year and they were absolutely giddy and chomping at the bit to tell me about this game, which I only found out later was the Dark Knight game. I wonder what really happened? Some deeper reporting would be good...
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Stahlbrand at 08/08/2008 10:53
I have been playing shitty movie-based games since the days of the NES "Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure" game.

If a TDK exists, but does not get released because it sucks, I am quite happy.
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B-Radicate at 08/08/2008 11:17
I personally wouldn't buy it simply because I don't have enough faith in EA to learn from their mistakes, but I doubt the general buying public would care. They would have eaten up in droves. Oh well.
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c0dek at 08/08/2008 11:46
There's a big difference between an amazing movie I'd watch over and over again and a video game. Yes, it'd be a huge cash grab for EA, but it's not exactly a movie that I see translating well to a game format, and making a generic Batman game and slapping "Dark Knight" on it would be an insult to the movie. Not interested...
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CBunn at 08/08/2008 12:38
@ Brando
Oh my, so THERE was the money to develop the game. Someone at the props department is going to get fired!
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Mxyzptlk at 08/08/2008 15:09
There will always be lots of people out there who will buy games based on movies, no matter what the quality.
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kawitchate at 08/08/2008 15:46
aw man, Pandemic was working on it? i LOVE dem boys! could have been a good game...
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Sharpless at 08/08/2008 17:54
I long for a good Batman game.
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Too Much Coffee Man at 08/08/2008 17:56
I didn't buy the Iron Man game but I loved the movie.

I didn't buy the Incredible Hulk game..........

I wouldn't buy a bad batman game no matter how much i liked the movie.

I'm glad they're delaying it. I'd rather have a good batman game next year than a shitty one now.
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doober187 at 08/10/2008 00:15
EA's failure to release Dark Knight game not so much a financial or creative fail. Release the game a week(or 2) before the DVD and the inevitable 2-disc DVD can have a game demo for 360(/ps3[pft!]) ON the special features disc! SIMPLE!
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doober187 at 08/10/2008 00:17
o yeah!...and be an awesome game!!! hehehe...
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