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EA loves COD Elite, wants more subscriptions in games photo

Electronic Arts has been loving the idea of turning games into ongoing "services" for a while, and it appears to be drawing a lot of inspiration from Activision's Call of Duty Elite. Praising the rival's service, CEO John Riccitiello says we can expect a lot more similar services soon. Lovely.

"When we look at what we do and what our competitors do, there are a number of examples of [what] I would call the best work of our industry in terms of making this work," he said during an earnings call. "Frankly, I gave a compliment to one of our competitors. It's got a subscription on the back end of an FPS title. I think that's a best-in-class performance.

"And we study all of these, and by way of example, when we put [FIFA] Ultimate Team out there, we had a competing idea with Madden, none of which I'm sure -- none of whom I believe on the call would even know the name of it because it quickly faded and it was replaced with Ultimate Team because we're learning from best practice.

"So the reason this is such a fast-growing revenue stream for us is we're identifying and implementing best practice across the range of our products, and you'll see lots more to come including an announcement near term that Peter just alluded to."

Hooray for subscriptions! I'll add that to the collector's editions, pre-order bonuses, launch-day DLC, post-launch DLC, online passes and season passes. 

Remember when a games made money off the strength of them being games? 

EA Praises Call of Duty Elite, Battlefield Subscription Next? [Industry Gamers]








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Themuad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:03
Themuad
Sell the games only online and for a third of their price and then maybe i will be ok with it.
Chad Almasy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:04
Chad Almasy
Remember when making money in the game industry amounted to trying to come up with a good game? I miss those days ;_;
MisterDonut's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:04
MisterDonut
It's times like this that I'm glad I take so little interest in the multiplayer side of things. However I still don't agree with a lot of the practices and I wouldn't put it pass someone like EA to somehow add a subscription service to a fucking single player game.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:04
The Silent Protagonist
I can't wait for the day EA collapses under its own weight.
Nkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:05
Nkiller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOgBpThHBb8
Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:10
Oishidesu
Remember when EA announced a $30 subscription to Tetris, a game they probably didn't own the IP to? Good times... Good times.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:11
Stevil
I love Rosario Dawson and Natalie Morales, would want them both to come to my place, wearing nothing but whipped cream and smiles.

Somehow, this is less crazy and more acceptable than Activision's hopes and dreams.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:11
free touch
He's being sarcastic right?
thecharrr's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:12
thecharrr
EA doesn't get why COD Elite is so popular: It's $50 a year for $40 of DLC you get early, along with contests with prizes in a polished ecosystem. Good luck doing that without a huge DLC happy fanbase.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:14
Stevil
I've ruined my own semi-joke by saying Activision and not EA. I blame the whipped cream and smiles.
jebussaves88's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:15
jebussaves88
I'll give them something with the Elite "service" though, it is optional. If you don't want it, just wait a while for the new maps. Who knows, Carbon might actually start to grow on you. If it stays optional and doesn't detract from fundamental gameplay and make the subscription-less product feel like less of a product, then sure, do what you want, Activision.
Time Glitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:17
Time Glitch
Whelp. Add this to the list of features that will guarantee I will never buy a game.
NickCull's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:18
NickCull
Hopefully Mass Effect 3 is far along enough in development to prevent them from shoehorning another tacked on "service" feature. That will be the last game I buy with the EA stamp on it.
NickCull's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:20
NickCull
Also, it really goes to show that EA has not one single original business strategy in their head anymore. They're like the cover band of capitalism.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:22
Fugly Duckling
2 words: Fuck that.
Gamernerd101's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:23
Gamernerd101
Enter the 3 game codes that came with your game to unlock it, then register your email with our marketing team to get a subscription for the dlc to the 3 codes you've just received. Ahhhhh FUTURE
Valued Rug's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:26
Valued Rug
I know everyone hates this stuff- I do too and always ignore it. It really shows how competitive the game industry is right now. They are scrounging for every dollar. When Notch can make $60 million by himself, that's $60 million that EA or another publisher didn't make. That scares them, and it should - see THQ.
Blahblahblahblah's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:27
Blahblahblahblah
Well then. I guess I'm buying Kingdoms of Amalur used, this just completely re-kindled my hatred for EA.
TXYeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:27
TXYeti
I wish someone would do a real analysis of the change over time in average development costs for games. This stuff is annoying, for sure, but something tells me that not every cent is going straight to the bottom line or to fill executives' pockets, though some surely does.

Games are better than ever and cost more than ever to make (I assume), so some of this stuff really can't be all that surprising.

Yeah, yeah I realize prices and popularity have also increased, but have they done so at the same rate of dev cost? Someone find out and tell us! Journalism!
Joe Ess's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:28
Joe Ess
Investors love hearing about how a company plan to make more money!
VitaminShoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:30
VitaminShoe
Are people enjoying this service? Just curious. EA sports should be a subscription that updates the current games you own automatically instead of paying 60 bones every year for a Madden. Keep a lifetime career history and stats that run through all games not just for each installment. I don't play any EA sports games but this seems like a good way to do it. Constant support and upgrades allows EA to trickle in cash on a product year round instead of just lumps at release dates.
TheManchild's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:32
TheManchild
My continued EA boycott is just getting easier all the time! Thanks, EA!
Noir Trilby's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:34
Noir Trilby
Wow, EA. You're really doing your outright best to make everyone hate you. I'm definitely considering not getting EA games after I get Mass Effect 3.
Jinx 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:35
Jinx 01
"best-in-class performance"
=
whatever makes the most money,
not what's good for their customers.

John Riccitiello
=
asshole
StealthMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:37
StealthMaster
I get they want to make more money. It's a business, but there are a ton of other ways to make money. I would LOVE it if games was no longer pushing $70. Drop them to 30 and get the rest of the revenue on DLC. It's a win win for everybody. Subscriptions needs to have a reason to justify Subscriptions and I don't think a FPS shooter is really going to do it when all they are doing is just releasing a new one the following year. Take a look at WoW for example. They have a year subscription, I believe. They take the game, make it better, and add expansion packs every few years. In it's 8 year run so far they have released 3 packs with one on the way. CoD on the other hand as a 50 year subscription and what they release? More DLC for you to pay, more stats, and extra stuff. Good thing they are all optional. Bad thing there is another Call Of Duty game coming this year. EA needs to be careful because I don't see this ending well for anybody.
Dancing Mad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:40
Dancing Mad
When I read the CEO's quote, all I heard was the sound of diarrhea.
Psykocyber's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:41
Psykocyber
Please use a different picture of Scrooge. This picture is about the memories of a lifetime, not the immense wealth of his fortune.
- A fanatic Donald Duck reader
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:44
mix
I will never pay for a subscription based game, ever.

I've been gaming since before I can remember and not once have I even paid for a month trial of a game.
Discount Tent Ed's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:45
Discount Tent Ed
I will boycott all EA games except the ones I was planning to buy HELL YEAH Y
Darckcloud723's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:48
Darckcloud723
Well, this doesn't make me feel bad for waiting on Kingdom of Armalore.
ShotgunDiplom4t's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:55
ShotgunDiplom4t
Maaaaan. Why does EA have to suck the fun out of errythang.
Ffordesoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 10:57
Ffordesoon
COD multiplayer should be free-to-play at this point, with money being made off the campaigns purchased a la carte. If you subscribe to Elite, you get all the campaigns from now until you unsub. That they haven't embraced that model is asinine, since it's the logical conclusion of their own business model.
Baines's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:01
Baines
EA should love it.

Activision has created a major source of income with a service that doesn't even work properly.

So far, Elite has offered:
Stat tracking that sometimes seems to just make up numbers
Contests where the top places are overrun by obvious boosters
A game security exploit
Activision spreading its work force even thinner, with a game that is already riddled with problems, botched fixes, and patch delays.

You do get DLC maps early and for less, but even that has complaints. People are complaining about the lack of modes available on the new maps, which has happened because Activision split their fanbase further. (Instead of just the will and won't buy, now they have the Elites, the will buy as two-month later DLC, and the won't buy at all.) People are complaining because Elite access is tied to a user account and not a console, so in a family situation anyone who wants to use Elite maps has to have bought an Elite subscription. And people are complaining that the DLC maps aren't even that good. (Mind, people complain the MW3 maps in general are poor.) And complain that this time it isn't just map packs, but mixing in Spec Ops missions and even "game modes" as DLC content.
LuizPSC's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:03
LuizPSC
@Psykocyber

I read the collection too, is beatifull.
Charlie Campbell's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:04
Charlie Campbell
I think the video game industry is going to commit suicide. Eventually people are not going to buy games at all or just one or 2 games a year .
Foggle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:11
Foggle
"It's got a subscription on the back end of an FPS title. I think that's a best-in-class performance."

holy fucking shit this guy's a scumbag
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:12
Rabite
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/02/ea-hackers-win-big-off-fifa-ultimate-team/

So yeah, not a surprise. EA doesn't care how it gets it's money.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:21
UltorOscariot
Go right the hell ahead, EA. Rape the fools. Shove your slimy cock right in their wallet.

You won't have me, and more are waking up.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:28
Gorescream
one of the oldest in the business and still failing to see how gamers want their products

go eat yourself ea
Relic28's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:30
Relic28
No thanks EA, you've alienated me enough already. Rehashing bad ideas that aren't in the best interest of gamers won't help you in the long run.
Koroviev's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:32
Koroviev
I love Mass Effect, but I genuinely feel like scum when I buy games published by EA. Maybe I'll just reserve all of my "new" money and preorders for Atlus. The rest of these clowns can scuffle the streets for all I care.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:39
Wedge
This is hilarious when only the highest profile of MMO's can afford to keep a subscription fee these days. I think the point they are missing is you can do whatever the fuck you want when your product is mega popular and selling to a braindead audience, and you need to give away as much as possible to sell anything else. So short of maybe some of their sports franchises, I don't know what EA thinks they can do with this concept.
PalinRMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:47
PalinRMA
Hello no for me joining any of them.
Corbanski's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:52
Corbanski
So I think Mass Effect 3 is the last EA game. I have already stopped buying Activision crap a while ago.
kezins's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:53
kezins
This generation had some really awesome games, but online passes, DLC and all this extra stuff is really starting to bum me out. I kinda miss the days when you just popped in a game and played it.
Hystzen's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 11:55
Hystzen
GAME COMPANIES WANT MONEY??!!! WHAT BIZARRE WORLD IS THIS
JohnApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 12:05
JohnApocalypse
I aint got nothing wrong with season passes
MrFloppyknickers's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 12:14
MrFloppyknickers
Question? When did my 60 fucking dollars become not enough for game publishers and developers? I did what you wanted, I didn't pirate, I didn't buy it used, I even preordered the fucking thing, but now to get the full game I get to make a down payment and a few monolith installments of 10-15 bucks to get the entire game.

Look games industry, if your game is gonna cost me 80-120 dollars, just fucking tell me upfront do I can make an informed buying decision.
CodeFire's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 12:14
CodeFire
I will never support subscription services, outside of MMO's. I don't care how fucking good the game is.
jdriccardo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2012 12:15
jdriccardo
Because that 60 dollar price tag just isn't enough.
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