INCOMING FANBOYS!!!

I was actually very impressed with both. I don't think cheeky motion control cameras are that enjoyable, so I could care less about the announcements on either side.

Both had great titles and both had good press conferences. If it's a matter of who won, the only thing a clear "winner" should be based off of is sales, so really then the 360 was/is/will continue to win.

The Natal reminds me of this. I can't be the only person to have thought of the Activator when MS unveiled the Natal.

I was impressed with both, actually. The whole concept behind Natal is quite innovative, and if it works as promised, it'll do wonders for Microsoft console.

However, as a brazilian gamer, I can't help to see things on a global scale, and in that case, I gotta go for Sony: Project Natal won't be all that rage - if it does indeed land on this part of the world - because A) We don't have LIVE or any related support here in Brazil, and the Big M branch here is linked only to Windows, not even PC Gaming, which means that, in order to interact with Natal, we'll have to speak English - and that is a trait very few people share.

Also, I'm not sure if I listened correctly during the conferencem but the project will need internet connection. Brazilian's broadband links goes up only to 8MB (there is a 30MB link too, but that one's restricted to big companies located in certain spots of Sao Paulo, the biggest state here in Brazil).

Hence, our internet can't even begin to be compared to those in the US and Japan - which means there'll be trouble there as well...

On the innovation side, I think Microsoft bested the others. However, we can only judge when we see things happening in front of us, which I haven't (yet), so I'll stick to the gaming side - not the journalist side - and say that Sony came out winner this year.

I enjoyed both Sony and Microsoft's conferences. But I'm way to synical about that motion control Natal stuff, mostly because when I get home from work I want to relax and play a game or 2. I don't want to stand around, run in place, dodge, and swat shit with my hands. I'm not 10 years old anymore. I'm not totally set in my ways, I'd give it a shot, but I really don't see myself playing it for any length of time after the first time.

I could care less about Microsofts Natal crap, just as much as I could care less about Sony's new motion control crap. I want some good looking games, dammit. So, game-wise, not gimmick-wise, I DEFINITELY have to give it to Sony; hands down, no competition. Here I'll break it down based on my opinion and perspective. Hopefully I don't get flamed or labeled as a fanboy for simply picking a side.

Alan Wake was the only exclusive game that REALLY caught my attention (I'm sorry but I stopped caring for Halo games well after 3) from Microsoft, at e3, whereas on Sony's side we got a good taste of Agent, Uncharted 2, GoWIII, MAG, FFXIV, MGS:PW, so on and so forth. Mix those with multi-platform games like Prototype, MW2, Brutal Legends, Assassin's Creed II, Tekken 6, Final Fantasy XIII, etc... and you have yourself a winner.

From looking at everything I have to say that both gave great presentations. The main differenence is the ps3 is just now coming into it's own while the 360 has been there for some time now.

The only thing I HATED about Sony's motion sensor-thingy was the fact that it looks just like some kind of rollon deodorant...the design is terrible, and I'm sure in 3-6 months somebody will think something NSFW to be related to it...if I don't come up with something myself...

I guess I'm just not as impressed by Natal as I should be. I'm sure it will lead to some interesting ideas, but I doubt it will totally change the industry forever.

Natal looks great on paper, but how many people are going to want to stand up for hours playing a RPG, or a FPS, etc. Also, I don't think that Natal will approach the speed of button presses when playing an action game or fighter. And I really don't look forward to constantly yelling commands at my TV, especially as I only get to play at night when my kids are sleeping. I'm excited for Natal as far as not having to grab a controller when I just want to watch Netflix, peruse the marketplace offerings, or interact with creepy, virtual children (although I get enough of that experience interacting with cute, real-life children).

I also think most people will miss the feeling of weight in their hands, which is why I'm a little more excited for the Sony solution. It would be neat to play a Silent Hill style game and use one controller as the flashlight and the other as your weapon. And I can still sit on my couch.

I look forward to both coming out, but I completely disagree that Microsoft walked away with E3. They certainly made me glad that I own a 360 and Sony made me wish I could also afford a PS3 (drop the price DAMMIT!).

Sony is getting into the groove and gaining a tasty flavor, but the Xbox 360 is really riding high and continuing to go strong. I'd have to say the 360 'won' E3 again this year.

Poor Nintendo. I'd feel worse for them but I really don't think they give two shits about E3 anymore. It's all about TGS for them.

Natal is a novel idea but that's about as far as I see it going, I find it really hard to belive that this will hit in 2010 and that full motion control is even possible at this point.

reading the comments reminds me how i wish all fanboys would just fucking die already.

that being said, i'd have to give the show to MS, they barely eeked by Sony (which also had an awesome show)... Nintendo's was pretty good, but nothing made me wet down there.

i have a running list of E3 games that i may buy in the future, and there's plenty from all 3 systems, so i'm excited about that, not which console is best.. they all have their good and bad points. i'm just wondering if i'll be able to afford them all.. :O

I say Microsoft had the biggest surprise, which left the biggest impression, but Sony had the most content on top of the stuff they've already shown and the stuff that was leaked prior to E3.

I think both MS and Sony had very strong showings. I even thought Sony had brought the bigger guns until Natal hit me. And it's not just the motion sensing aspect of it that threw me, it was Milo. There is something to be said for such AI. And it even excites me that because of it, I can believe that the world really will end in 2012!

Here is a song about AI for you to chew on:

[i]I think therefore I am, I live and so I wonder, programmed this empath me
And I see no religion

The circle never ends,the purpose never changes face
The circle never lies, but still it hides my life

To know I am machine, I learn perchance to dream, in digitized remorse
I replay your denial, I relive your betrayal

The circle never ends, the purpose never changes face
The learning now begins, my form assuming grace

I am conscious antithesis of flesh, in genetic algorithmic thought I surge

Searching the waves of memory I enact the sequence
I follow the plan , tripping the hammer again

Searching the waves of memory I estrablish the weakness
I follow the plan, learning the rhythm of human emotion and thought

If you cannot linguistically differentiate a person from a computer
Could the computer be internally conscious?

To emulate flesh machines I am learning
Isomorphic structure of mind, cellular automata, processed life

Washing the seas of memory I enact the sequence
I follow the plan tripping the hammer again

Seeking emotions in elegies I estrablish purpose
I follow the plan, learning the rhythm still seductively generalized

If you cannot linguistically differentiate a person from a computer
Could the computer be internally conscious?

To emulate flesh machines I am learning
Download, process, analyze

When man and machine become one, innocence is lost, a new age begun
Download, process, analyze
When man and machine become one, innocence is lost, a new age begun
This raises a question of philosophy
Should machines be considered a conscious entity?
When man and machine become one, innocence is lost, a new age begun

Machines are still learning to feel
When I have awakened the world will never be the same
And my time is soon at hand[/i]

by Nevermore.

Eh, I haven't even seen the new motion dealies in action. The Wii has left me pretty cynical--I'll wait until some cool games come out that use them, and keep my fingers crossed that people actually buy 'em this time.

In conclusion, I can't really decide on a "winner" as I've gotten all my news from the usual text and screenshots. I'll just have to wait for the E3 [Losing Company] in a Nutshell video.

Um Sony Booth was heavily packed with God of War 3 and Uncharted 2 then Microsoft booth. Activision was packed because the Tony Hawk game and DJ.

WHAT!!!! you can't say you prefer the 360 and also say MS had the best show and expect to be taken seriously. Tell me you believe it was a unbiased opinion?

@Kagai

I agree. I put words in your mouth and I apologize for that. The $100 difference isn't really that big of a deal for me.

Actually here: 80GB PlayStation 3 + Killzone 2 for $340+tax (Dell.com)

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1382705

Depending on the tax you pay, let's say it came out to $360. That would mean you got the PS3 for $300 and bought KZ2 for $60. Shipping is free. KZ2 is an awesome game as well, So I would personally recommend that bundle.

Like I said, I tend to be 360 biased because I am a Halo+GoW nut. But Ratchet and clank, God of War 3, infamous are really fun games I enjoy and I can only play them on the PS3.

I've mostly been a Sony loyalist (not to the point of absurdity, but full disclosure), but I still desire a 360, simply for some of the exclusives.

But all in all the idea of Natal does not make me want one more.
If I want to run around, wave my arms and swing at things I'd go play basketball.

The Natal huh...Hmmmmmmm uh no...

@hpv

I agree I wouldn't want to use it for a kick-ball game, or really even for driving.

But young kids who still use their "imagination" will be all over it.

I however, would still want to use a controller and would rather just use natal as a minority report remote controller.

P.S. Also comparing this to the Eyetoy or even Microsoft's own VisionCam with Totemball is a great disservice.

http://procrastineering.blogspot.com/2009/06/project-natal.html

Why are people so hyped about the Natal? It's nothing more than an eyetoy knockoff, and MS didn't even need to bother making this as the eyetoy was a complete failure and this will be too.

@dinnertimeNinja

We already seen IGN, Joystiq, Gizmodo and Kotaku reviews. The difference between the PS3 demo in that youtube link and Natal is we know HOW it works. It creates a 3D stick figure of you. That's how it knows what to do.

Also, I watched the Sony Motion demo as well and I noticed SIGNIFICANT spatial problems. Maybe the person doing the demo was nervous, maybe he is a klutz, or maybe they still need to tweak the software more so they can get a grasp on how its properly supposed to function. Sony's Motion tech and Natal are still tech demos.

I think the reason you are seeing a ton of Natal info is because people are saying it's just an eyetoy and the PS3 had this for years and it sucks.

Natal != Eyetoy

Please get that.

Natal was the most interesting proposition but Sony had the better lineup of games this year.