This is what we always hear about the Wii. So many Wii owners out there, but such a high percentage of them are on the 'casual' side and don't purchase much software.

Adjust your sales projections. Figure X% of Wii owners are only going to play Wii Sports and the like and cut them out of your equation. ha

Though, I do sometimes think... if the Wii is more powerful than the original Xbox... why no games look as good as the best Xbox games? (Other than SM:Galaxy)

But yeah, I think that the Wii has an incredibly low attachment rate. Everyone and they mom has a Wii, but they only buy like 5 games for it. While the 360 and PS3 have a library that just keep on giving and giving. My Wii game count only reached 5 titles large, while I've played over 100 games on my 360 alone, and still own perhaps 50 of them.

Essentially what EA just said was "we make games solely based off of whichever platform is selling the most and we don't care about the rest" "we want to milk all you owners of (insert most selling console) for all that we can get by making games that have already been done over and over. When will they stop trying to push it as a fitness console when it's proven not to be?

So were they frustrated over EA Sports Active selling over 2 million units on the Wii? You can't have your cake and eat it too. Maybe EA should start marketing their Wii games more, because right now they don't advertise a lot of them at all. So I have no sympathy for EA, its just them crying the blues over their own stupid mistakes!

With the wii-motion plus and the balance board, I feel the Wii could be on the verge of something stupendous. Those two peripherals have the ability to make an amazing, deep game together. Unfortunately, wii seems to only release games aimed at children and casual gamers for these peripherals, but play Tiger Woods 10 and you'll see the potential you could have. A FPS where you controlled ground movement with the balance board a la the segway, and the wii-mote for aiming and firing, it could totally work. Until then, us sad wii owners have to sit and wait for the next zelda/metroid/mario.

I think the problem isn't the console but how little people look at third party wii game and think: "That's going to be good" It sucks that in order to know a game will be worth purchasing I'll have to look at reviews and game play videos just to make sure it isn't complete shit. Combine that with the number of people who don't do this and have been burned in the past it's no wonder they're so resistant to buy this stuff.

It not a question of casual or hardcore because if it's not fun people are going to be more cautious. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Isn't part of the problem developers themselves? I mean, your "hardcore" Nintendo fan seems to have a problem growing beyond the main attraction of Nintendo. They always say they want these M Rated games, First Person Shooters and such and when the time comes they never put their money where their mouth is.

When the hardcore doesn't fallow through, its logical for people to try and bank on the casuals, but I think the whole point of attracting casuals would be to lure them to becoming core gamers. In this respect, I have to say Nintendo hasn't succeeded in leading developers to that idea.

Its not really a matter of upping graphic power, let's stop kidding ourselves. We've seen the "king of graphics" soundly defeated every single generation. Its about content and its only ever been about content.

Problem is, this time no one seems to know what to do with the content on the most popular platform and both hardcore and casual don't seem to know what they want outside of Nintendo.

Another angle people just love to gloss over is that on any of the three consoles out there, there's a market for downloadable games. There's a reason all three console-makers nickel-and-dime us out the olher content - they're worried if they didn't, that games of days-gone-by would affect sales of the new content.

I don't know why, because it seems a lot of people are more than happy to stay bound to physical media, but I know I probably would be one of the people buying more downloadable games than the shiny, new discs they want me to buy every week.

If I had a Wii right now, man, I don't know how many console games I would actually need after the stuff from Way Forward, 5th Cell, Capcom, Sega, SE, Konami and Nintendo. Probably would just download games after that. Super Metoid never goes out of style for me.

SexualChocolate has a few good points (who would have thought I'd admit that?) that most people buy Wiis as toys, upgrade their toy with the fitness add-on, and then leave it.
I have several brother-in-laws who purchased wiis because they loved nintendo back in the day. One bought something like 5 Wii games when he bought it originally, and hasn't bought any since (about two years). The only game he has that would be hardcore is Okami, which I got for him for his birthday. They did get Wii Fit though! The other brother did get some gamecube games, but again he hasn't purchased any Wii games since buying the system.
Yes, the Wii sells a lot of systems, but it doesn't push much third-party software. First party seems to do ok, as people know names like Mario Kart and can get Wii Play with a Wiimote. However, third party ones don't seem to sell well at all, especially M rated ones.
The Wii is, for 90% of the people who bought one, just a toy that you play with, not a gaming console you keep buying games for. So yeah, it's going to be tough.

I really don't know what it will take for developers to make a serious game on the wii, not a rip off, not a port, something original, and something that looks better than the best looking "xbox" game *note not the 360*


idk I bought RE4 wii 3 times and planning to get a fourth

I have also bought The Conduit on the basis that they will make something better eventually.

I would buy COD5 but it is still F****** $50 , and a used copy cost $49.99 at GS.

Maybe they should adjust their development strategy and learn how to make the most of a little. If a bunch of iPhone developers can do that, why can't EA?

i read this a few days ago, and the answer is really quite obvious. third parties need to make more polished games on wii. you take a first party title like zelda, mario, or metroid and the game looks great. the controls are fluid, and the whole experience draws you in. now, try to play madden on wii, and you'll see that it's not a fun experience at all. motion controls are forced, and you're always forgetting how to control the action. also, as a wii owner, i'm not going to buy a rail shooter, period. i don't care how much work you put into it, i just won't. i'm not going to buy a plastic guitar either, doesn't appeal to me in the least.

if you want to sell your game on wii, here's a few pointers. don't make it too waggly. do make it look good, cause jaggies don't sell. don't make mini game compilations, cause we have plenty of those. do add deeper elements to the gameplay, such as rpg elements. don't port titles anymore, wii gamers hate that.

one more point, why the hell isn't there a diablo for wii yet? the interface is perfect. it's easy to play with deep gameplay elements, exactly what i'm talking about above. also, a good fps would be nice, as it's only been a three year wait now. basically, your wii games don't sell, because you're not putting in any effort, and it shows. has nothing to do with the casual market, because there are plenty of longtime nintendo gamers out there. we're just waiting for the games.

@smoger:
Exactly what I was thinking of--THEY DON'T ADVERTISE WELL. And yes, you've got two excellent points--TWO. You deserve two brownie points!

Anyways, even if Nintendo is good with business, they've certainly lost some of their polish with veteran gamers and the like. When was the last time a Wii advertisement was released for a GOOD game? HofD: Overkill and Madworld were great from what I've heard (never played them, guilty as charged), but they hardly advertised for them on TV--their commercials were, like...ten seconds long. And they were the same as the magazine versions of their ads, too! Like I said, Nintendo does business, but they need to advertise the real good first-party games. We've all heard of Wii Fit, give the spotlight to your other games--the ones that might end up as NEVER PLAYED GEMS if you don't sell enough. And, if they're great, please don't let them end up like Earthbound--you won't see a CENT out of people selling that game completely packaged for at least $200. Fun fact: a factory-sealed copy was sold for $1000+ on eBay!

The Wii is a new beast that devs have yet to figure out, one things for sure though, conventional software does not work with the Wii crowd. I think they're wasting their efforts with m rated games as most gamers interested are already playing them elsewhere.

@ EA: Keep pumping out awesome titles like MoH:H2 and I'll keep buying. The Wii library is top notch and my wallet can't keep up. D=

Biggest. Navel. Ever.

First of all, ALL video games and consoles can be considered toys. Fancy cars, private jets, and yes, video games -- If it's not essential for living, I consider it a toy (or a luxury, if you want to be nice about it). Hell, my PS3 is a toy. A really nice and expensive toy, but still not essential to live.

As for the article, I've had a Wii since day one. I have a dozen games for it (NOT including downloads), and I'm looking forward to at least four more. None of them are made by EA. Is that Nintendo's fault now, too? I agree that the Wii won't compete with the 360 and PS3 much longer due to an obvious lack of power in comparison, but let's be fair here -- The Wii is definitely still an amazing console if you find the gems, of which there are more than people realize (or are willing to admit).

If given the chance to play Sonic Unleashed or any title released in '09 by EA for the Wii, I'd choose Sonic Unleashed overall. That says alot about the quality of software EA is producing for the Wii.

You can't speak 'weak' without EA.