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Don't use their forums or don't buy their games.. I no longer do either.
They will eventually either learn not to act so absurdly or they will go out of business. I'm happy either way.
They will eventually either learn not to act so absurdly or they will go out of business. I'm happy either way.
@mighty_macros: Sorry can't do that The Darkness 2 and Prey 2 both come out at around the same time as ME3 will. ME3 is on the will get to it eventually list XD.
I completely agree Jim. Some might think it's hyperbole here, but I honestly thought you understated the issue. It just boggles the mind that anyone who is aware of these issues still buys their games.
I've been paralyzed by cynicism and skepticism in the past, thinking that most consumer reactions are pointless in the grand scheme of things. But it's time to wake up people. There are protests all around the world right now, and many of them have already worked, with issues far more serious, and difficult to address than this. If enough people got sick of this bullshit, we could change it.
Stop giving EA your money. They clearly don't respect their customers, and they don't respect ownership rights. They are trying to erode them every chance they get, in pursuit of "gaming as a service."
I've been paralyzed by cynicism and skepticism in the past, thinking that most consumer reactions are pointless in the grand scheme of things. But it's time to wake up people. There are protests all around the world right now, and many of them have already worked, with issues far more serious, and difficult to address than this. If enough people got sick of this bullshit, we could change it.
Stop giving EA your money. They clearly don't respect their customers, and they don't respect ownership rights. They are trying to erode them every chance they get, in pursuit of "gaming as a service."
And yes, this means Battlefield 3, this means Mass Effect 3. It means actually exercising some self-control for just a little bit.
Sounds like EA need to manage their community better, perhaps employ a new community manager?
you know, like me.
you know, like me.
Biggest problem is that humans are stupid. Seriously, people will keep buying from them, cause they just dont care. EA spits in their faces, and people keep buying.
Just wondering, but you talk about this as if what these people are saying is absolute fact. Is there some reason to be certain?
When I used to play MMOs, every day would see a forum post by someone "innocent" who had been banned when they claimed they had done nothing wrong.
However, if it's true, then it needs to be fixed. The obvious first step is to never use EA's forum. Having to depend on EA's customer support is a bad, bad spot to be in.
When I used to play MMOs, every day would see a forum post by someone "innocent" who had been banned when they claimed they had done nothing wrong.
However, if it's true, then it needs to be fixed. The obvious first step is to never use EA's forum. Having to depend on EA's customer support is a bad, bad spot to be in.
Oh for fuck...this is ridiculous. What's the point of joining the EA forums now, where out of nowhere, they can decide *click* and you can't play your legally purchased games anymore "because you were being a huge jerkface".
Absolute cunts. Cuntoids.
Absolute cunts. Cuntoids.
@SebasGR
What's stupid is for you to suggest that your values should be universal. You want to be outraged over videogames, you go ahead with that, but don't expect other people to prioritize that particular sentiment.
It's pretty simple risk/reward. The overwhelming majority of people who buy the next Mass Effect game are going to have a good experience. In my entire life, I've only had to contact EA customer support one time, and though that was a negative experience, I still loved the game, and wouldn't give it up just because of a few frustrations.
People have a right to complain, and they should complain, but should they be required to give up a rewarding game just on the slim chance that something bad might happen? No. You do what you feel like you must, but I be damn if I'm going to let you decide what I should do with regards to a hobby.
What's stupid is for you to suggest that your values should be universal. You want to be outraged over videogames, you go ahead with that, but don't expect other people to prioritize that particular sentiment.
It's pretty simple risk/reward. The overwhelming majority of people who buy the next Mass Effect game are going to have a good experience. In my entire life, I've only had to contact EA customer support one time, and though that was a negative experience, I still loved the game, and wouldn't give it up just because of a few frustrations.
People have a right to complain, and they should complain, but should they be required to give up a rewarding game just on the slim chance that something bad might happen? No. You do what you feel like you must, but I be damn if I'm going to let you decide what I should do with regards to a hobby.
Easy fix ... Don't use their forums or if you do think of it like a girls tea party and you'll be fine talking about ms.Nezbits garden and how scrumptious cucumber sandwiches are.
And FYI they are scrumptious ....!
And FYI they are scrumptious ....!
Man, when i buy a game i dont want to worry about the danger of getting the hammer because of a witty comment on a forum. I was pro EA til Origin popped. Din't buy BF3, ME3 maybe not either. I once saw a kiddy porn spray in TF2, that guy should be banned not one who worte "Bioware sold his souls to the EA devil"
@Shinta: Because the majority of people have a "if it doesn't affect me, I'll buy it anyway" mentality. And well to be honest, so do I. I buy most EA-games on consoles, which means most of this melodrama gets skipped for me.
and this is the problem with the whole "unified ID" thing that so many companies are going to. While it may be unified in some aspects, other aspects really have to be separated and the actions of an individual on a company's forum has to be treated separately from their actions playing the game that they purchased, on a console that they purchased, using that ID.
It really comes down to poor planning and creation of the unified ID concept at a corporate level.
It really comes down to poor planning and creation of the unified ID concept at a corporate level.
@Spaz:
Yes, sadly I will never (at this rate) play ME3. Too bad. I really liked that franchise, but I am not putting up with this. I put my money where my mouth is.
Yes, sadly I will never (at this rate) play ME3. Too bad. I really liked that franchise, but I am not putting up with this. I put my money where my mouth is.
@Pokota People have a right to play what they paid for, and EA is taking this right from them. If you support the company you also support their actions.
I actually skipped on BF3 because of this nonsense, won't be purchasing ME3 either until they change their business practises.
Still boggles my mind how people hacks Steam and PSN but don't hack EA. EA needs to do something about this and stop being a dictator and let people play their games that they own bought
SebasGR: I agree, but as long as a minority experiences the majority of problems, those handful of people not buying games as a sign of protest won't matter in the grand scheme of things. The average consumer couldn't care less who publishes what game and what their business-practices are.
@Henriquegds:
Hacking in those 2 examples was an act of thievery not social statement.
Once Origin has enough suckers, they too will be targeted.
Hacking in those 2 examples was an act of thievery not social statement.
Once Origin has enough suckers, they too will be targeted.
@RaginDude
What I meant in that post was that people are often dishonest about why they got banned from a game. That happens every single day. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but is there anything evidence beyond here-say?
@SebasGR
If they said it was an error, then it's an error. One that needs to be fixed, without doubt, but that's a different issue than if they said forum and game bans are the same on purpose.
According to different people on Destructoid, I should never buy another game from EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Sony, or THQ, among others. That's just off the top of my head.
Every single product or service has customers who have had a negative experience. Amazon, Steam, Destructoid, all of them. If I lived my life listening to everyone who tells me I should boycott this or that, then I'd be sitting in a lean-to built out of sticks somewhere in the woods. As I said, you do what you need to do, but don't expect people who have experienced little or no problem to follow behind you like mice.
What I meant in that post was that people are often dishonest about why they got banned from a game. That happens every single day. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but is there anything evidence beyond here-say?
@SebasGR
If they said it was an error, then it's an error. One that needs to be fixed, without doubt, but that's a different issue than if they said forum and game bans are the same on purpose.
According to different people on Destructoid, I should never buy another game from EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Sony, or THQ, among others. That's just off the top of my head.
Every single product or service has customers who have had a negative experience. Amazon, Steam, Destructoid, all of them. If I lived my life listening to everyone who tells me I should boycott this or that, then I'd be sitting in a lean-to built out of sticks somewhere in the woods. As I said, you do what you need to do, but don't expect people who have experienced little or no problem to follow behind you like mice.
@pukota
Its not an immortal, so its not the same thing. Apples and oranges and all that.
I'm glad that through steams foresight and superiority, the forums are seperate from gamer ID's. Ea has such a long way to go to catch up to steam that's it's laughably pathetic to watch at this point.
Its not an immortal, so its not the same thing. Apples and oranges and all that.
I'm glad that through steams foresight and superiority, the forums are seperate from gamer ID's. Ea has such a long way to go to catch up to steam that's it's laughably pathetic to watch at this point.
EA have never respected any of their customers,plainly said EA are assholes,always have been and always will be.
Those people deserved to get what they got.
That'll teach them and show people what happens when you buy EA products.
That'll teach them and show people what happens when you buy EA products.
I have known this for ages and I use a different account on the ea forums than the account I use in games. Not that I am anywhere close to ever being banned but still.
I'm not all that surprised after the first time this happened when DA2 came out. Personally, I had a pretty good experience with EA when I got the Dragon Age Complete Edition. I had to ring them up to unlock some of the DLC, which was bit of a bummer, but the customer service guy was awesome and sorted out everything for me with a minimum of fuss. Still, this whole unified account thing is having a massive negative impact on people. If you buy a game you shouldn't be locked out of it just for saying something EA doesn't like on their forums. They should just have a separate account for forums than your game account - problem solved.
I'd like to know more about the issue than just blindly taking someone's word as the god's honest truth. What type of discussion, user history, context of discussion, etc. There are way too many variables, unknowns, and half-truths floating around to defame anyone or service. Please elaborate for once Jim and allow us to follow up on your 'journalizm'.
This 'he said she said' garbage reported as 'news' seems like targeted aggression. And of course, Jim's usual sheep are all bleating right along without even grasping the larger issue of integrity and accountability. Stay classy dtoid.
This 'he said she said' garbage reported as 'news' seems like targeted aggression. And of course, Jim's usual sheep are all bleating right along without even grasping the larger issue of integrity and accountability. Stay classy dtoid.
In some other parallel universe where EA doesn't suck .... this news might be surprising .....
Don't buy their games (don't play their games), don't use their forums and will never use Origin (Hallowed are the Ori). Learn something and make some positive changes or just go out of business already.
Don't buy their games (don't play their games), don't use their forums and will never use Origin (Hallowed are the Ori). Learn something and make some positive changes or just go out of business already.
@lAboMbA
Guess clicking on the source material would be too much to ask if you really want more info eh?
And yeah you know when a company with an established track record for being complete tossers is reported as committing a tosserie offense, I'm inclined to lean towards them being tossers vs ignoring their previous tosserings and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Guess clicking on the source material would be too much to ask if you really want more info eh?
And yeah you know when a company with an established track record for being complete tossers is reported as committing a tosserie offense, I'm inclined to lean towards them being tossers vs ignoring their previous tosserings and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
...And this is why games shouldn't have online authentication (especially if it's a game that is not online at all like a multiplayer).
@iabomba
You just don't stop, do you? You're like the energizer bunny. If you don't like it then by all means, gtfo. Stop looking at this site and allowing your children to view it. Jim Sterling is trash and the rest of us are worse than that. We are not worth the precious minutes in your day that you take to come here and bitch about our bitching. You are so much better than us that you should just go.
Seriously, get out of here.
You just don't stop, do you? You're like the energizer bunny. If you don't like it then by all means, gtfo. Stop looking at this site and allowing your children to view it. Jim Sterling is trash and the rest of us are worse than that. We are not worth the precious minutes in your day that you take to come here and bitch about our bitching. You are so much better than us that you should just go.
Seriously, get out of here.
EA and their high ranking staff members like Chairman: Larry Probst and CEO: John Riccitiello should be named and shamed not hiding behind their logo.
Online Passes, Petty Childish Publicty Stunts, Origin, this and much more mean you should stop buying and using modern products from EA! I'm glad some people are exerting self-control and not buying EA games for a quick fix in a virtual world. You won't make a change buy camping out in front of EA offices: You make a change buy talking with your money.
Everyone should be behind this: It benefits everyone for companies to think about and value the customer as a human rather than numbers in a computer.
Online Passes, Petty Childish Publicty Stunts, Origin, this and much more mean you should stop buying and using modern products from EA! I'm glad some people are exerting self-control and not buying EA games for a quick fix in a virtual world. You won't make a change buy camping out in front of EA offices: You make a change buy talking with your money.
Everyone should be behind this: It benefits everyone for companies to think about and value the customer as a human rather than numbers in a computer.
I'm not buying BF3 until it's on Steam. It's only a matter of time - maybe years, but I'm in no rush.
@tekbunny
Showing images of dildobats on the front page of a major video game website that is mentioned in game ads on TV is sort of ridiculous don't you think? I was just asking for a little more discretion. I do not allow my children to view the 'inner workings' of Dtoid, but I would hope I could carouse the main page and not be afraid of my 3,4, or 8 year old to see someone swinging around a giant vieny dildo.
Is that what we do now, tell people to gtfo for having a different opinion other than yours? Your bitching about EA and myself, so what's so different tough guy?
get the fuck off my jock bro...seriously.
Showing images of dildobats on the front page of a major video game website that is mentioned in game ads on TV is sort of ridiculous don't you think? I was just asking for a little more discretion. I do not allow my children to view the 'inner workings' of Dtoid, but I would hope I could carouse the main page and not be afraid of my 3,4, or 8 year old to see someone swinging around a giant vieny dildo.
Is that what we do now, tell people to gtfo for having a different opinion other than yours? Your bitching about EA and myself, so what's so different tough guy?
get the fuck off my jock bro...seriously.
Welcome to why I can never be a PC gamer.
I refused to have all of these accounts that can be taken away on a whim by the company in charge. Who's to say Steam will never get to this level too? This is why I hate digital distribution on any platform, it's all about control. Whenever a company decides to take something away, they have full power to do so because you agree to let them do it in the EULA. That agreement, present in retail games too (but not enforceable) basically says you don't own anything, just the rights to use it.
I like owning my games, or at least the lack of someone else owning them too. As long as I have a disc and a console (not connected to the internet, at least) I can play every single game on my shelf 20 years from now, provided the video card implanted in my brain has an antiquated HDMI input.
I refused to have all of these accounts that can be taken away on a whim by the company in charge. Who's to say Steam will never get to this level too? This is why I hate digital distribution on any platform, it's all about control. Whenever a company decides to take something away, they have full power to do so because you agree to let them do it in the EULA. That agreement, present in retail games too (but not enforceable) basically says you don't own anything, just the rights to use it.
I like owning my games, or at least the lack of someone else owning them too. As long as I have a disc and a console (not connected to the internet, at least) I can play every single game on my shelf 20 years from now, provided the video card implanted in my brain has an antiquated HDMI input.
It's a shame, because EA was going through a period where I thought they were finally gaining a lot of respect and really turning into an awesome publisher. What happened, EA? ;____;
Hey EA, have you seen Skyrim?
Yep, that's how you DON'T backstab your fans. You know, the way you're doing with Mass Effect 3.
Yep, that's how you DON'T backstab your fans. You know, the way you're doing with Mass Effect 3.
@RenegadePanda
Unfortunately this is not going to stay contained to PCs... Consoles of this generation are more like PCs than they are consoles at this point. I'm actually somewhat surprised that they haven't made it mandatory to register console copies of EA games on Origin.
The whole industry is going to hell in a hand basket and it has nothing to do with piracy or used sales but the people responsible for this downward spiral will keep chanting them as the true evils that necessitate their blatant anti consumer actions.
Not to say that piracy and used sales don't have an impact but more often than not they are used as scapegoats to justify anti consumer actions. Just remember even if you buy their games new, to them you are nothing more than filthy thieves ^^
Unfortunately this is not going to stay contained to PCs... Consoles of this generation are more like PCs than they are consoles at this point. I'm actually somewhat surprised that they haven't made it mandatory to register console copies of EA games on Origin.
The whole industry is going to hell in a hand basket and it has nothing to do with piracy or used sales but the people responsible for this downward spiral will keep chanting them as the true evils that necessitate their blatant anti consumer actions.
Not to say that piracy and used sales don't have an impact but more often than not they are used as scapegoats to justify anti consumer actions. Just remember even if you buy their games new, to them you are nothing more than filthy thieves ^^
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