It seems that Sony isn't the only corporation hopping aboard the "don't sue us" bandwagon. Electronic Arts has also been inspired by AT&T's recent shenanigans, quietly adding a clause that forbids Origin users from joining class action suits.
It's worth noting that the publisher actually changed its terms of service before Sony did, so it seems inspired by the same AT&T source rather than the PS3 platform holder. That's EA for you -- providing innovations for the game industry in all the wrong ways.
With both Sony and EA welcoming this new scheme with open arms, it would appear that we have a hot new craze in the making. Of course, it's hardly surprising that EA would be all over this, especially as it seems dedicated to making Origin the most dickish entity in the universe, that it might please The Dick Gods in their dickwisdom.
Seriously, EA has to be doing all this on purpose, right?
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9:20 AM on 09.26.2011 | 
RAAAAAAWBLARGBLARGBLARGBLARGRAAAAAAAAAAH!
There. I feel better already.
Like wildfire...
Heh, they don't care, the majority of gamers don't even check things like this anyway. So long as their being fed another Madden, they're happy.
You realise all your complaints acheive is to drive Jimbo to find all these ghey headers. Please guys. Just take your sexy lady headers and enjoy them.
I think we've earned a few hot female header images over the last few days.
In other news, oh noes, TOS is stopping me from class action suing like a whiney little bitch.
If you have a problem worth suing over, take it up directly. Class action is more of a protest against a minor gripe that most people don't even care about, just want in on the bandwagon.
Class action suits are a dick move anyway. If you've really been harmed you can and should sue properly or at least offer the culprit the chance to make it right.
And for the record: large companies like class action lawsuits (or not being sued at all). It helps them predict costs and gives them finality since all those who did not opt out are thus precluded from suing on that matter.
Lesson: just because you signed something, doesn't mean that it's enforceable.
Indeed. The risk of hypocrisy is pretty high there, though. Anyone who takes this course of action should probably take the time to peruse the ToS of other services they use. Specifically, they should cancel their Steam accounts and cell phone service. And that's just for starters.
And for the record: large companies like class action lawsuits (or not being sued at all). It helps them predict costs and gives them finality since all those who did not opt out are thus precluded from suing on that matter.
Lesson: just because you signed something, doesn't mean that it's enforceable.
But doesn't awareness need to be spread so that people are informed to not give them money?
Class action lawsuits can be important, specifically when the parties in involved don't have the means to defend themselves in court. You remember when Sony battered Lik Sang into bankruptcy by drowning them in legal fees? If that can happen to a company that has considerable liquid assets, what do you think will happen to an average consumer with a family to provide for? Class action lawsuits allow multiple individual suits to be consolidated, saving both money and time. Forcing us to relinquish our class action rights is just EA's way of fending off litigation because a lone consumer isn't likely to have the financial means to stand their ground against EA's stable of corporate lawyers.
I have nothing else to add to this discussion.
look at me.
now back at your terms of service.
sadly, they aren't fair but if you stopped using STEAM, Origin and PSN and switched to board games they could be.
look down, back up, where are you?
you're in a troll post, with the troll your troll could troll like.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/09/21/tech/gaming-gadgets/sony-psn-terms/
tl;dr version - It's enforceable.
Yah, bad PR doesn't mean jack if people are still buying your shit. It really bums me out that EA has Mass Effect 3, because I really want to give BioWare money without having to slip EA my cash.
Really? Who are "they"? Your somehow above people who play madden? You only play cool games I suppose:)
The problem with that is that every company is doing this now. You can't participate in society without subscribing to restrictive contracts. Cell phones, credit cards and even jobs do stuff like this.
You're absolutely right. Steam doesn't withhold your right to sue via class action. It withholds your right to legally resolve disputes in any way, shape or form whatsoever, including single-plaintiff suits, class actions, and arbitration. Behold:
EXCLUSIVE REMEDY -- STEAM AND THE SOFTWARE.
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH VALVE WITH REGARD TO STEAM OR THE SOFTWARE IS TO DISCONTINUE USE OF STEAM AND CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES OR JURISDICTIONS, VALVE, ITS LICENSORS, AND THEIR AFFILIATES LIABILITY SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FULL EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW.
They are blaming their shitty sales on piracy and second-hand sales.
Origin is spyware. And they forbid class action suits.
Wish I could say they´ll go under.
But there are far too many retards who bend over and take it.
Playing devil's advocate here: Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, and Mass Effect are not actually terrible games. Far from it.
"You realise all your complaints acheive is to drive Jimbo to find all these ghey headers. Please guys. Just take your sexy lady headers and enjoy them."
Did you just come out of a six year coma?
If seeing Old Spice Guy makes you think about homosexuality, that's only natural. He is the manliest of men and even straight men would bend over for him. If he slept with our wives, we wouldn't be mad, we'd ask if he wanted to do it again.
Old Spice Guy is God....
On a horse...
Backwards.
CHANGE OF PLANS. This week's Tuesday Trollings will be about the continued RAPE of the game industry consumer!
Jesus, when did this kind of shit become acceptable?
"Jesus, when did this kind of shit become acceptable?"
Years ago. Which is why I'm finding it somewhat odd that we're just getting around to bitching about it recently.
Most people are just unaware that these kind of things are going on. The strategy is usually to little by little allow these kind of things so people don't raise a shitstorm, and by the time it's blown out to ridiculous proportions it's too late for citizens to do anything about it. I know I've said this before, but it's the classic example of the frog not jumping out of a slowly-boiling pot of water.
@Sexualchocolate:
As a woman I have to say: No; I WILL be enjoying all these handsome shirtless male image headings, thank you very much my lad. *sips tea*
"Can whoever it is that complains about sexy women header images just stop.
You realise all your complaints acheive is to drive Jimbo to find all these ghey headers. Please guys. Just take your sexy lady headers and enjoy them."
All this is serving to do is convince me to bitch about them more, in the hope of even more 'ghey' headers.
Also, learn to spell. I'm not sure if you think changing the spelling has some mystical effect on the word, but all it's really doing is just making you look like an idiot.