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EA explains what SSX's online pass will entail photo

Though the inclusion of an online pass in a game with Electronic Arts' name attached to it does not come as a shock, word that SSX will follow the trend got the usual people riled up. I was prepared to perform the obligatory shrug and go about my day, but the specifics of what content is restricted interests me.

EA issued a response to Game Informer, which says passes will come with all new copies of SSX and those who buy used can pay $10 for a code if they so choose. Same old same old, until:

In SSX, players without an Online Pass are able to compete and play in both of SSX's online game modes, Explore and Global Events with no restrictions. In Global Events, the top finishers from each event are awarded with in-game credits. These in-game credits earned during play will not be awarded to the player if they do not have an Online Pass; these credits will be stored so that at any time, if a player redeems an Online Pass code, all the credits that they had previously earned in Global Events will be immediately awarded to them.

Economy balance makes it possible to unlock all available content and allows you to participate in all event drops across both Explore and Global Events, with credits earned solely in Explore.

This isn't so bad, if you ask me. I don't tend to buy used copies of games, but if I did happen to make this game an exception to the rule, I wouldn't feel totally burned by EA.

SSX's Online Pass Doesn't Sound Too Bad [Game Informer]








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qlum's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:05
qlum
So basically to unlock stuff you need the online pass.
Evergreen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:05
Evergreen
I bet Sterling will have something negative to say about this...
jondier's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:07
jondier
alright good. thats not as bad. even so, online passes can suck it! :D
Ramminchuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:10
Ramminchuck
@qlum "So basically to unlock stuff you need the online pass."

I think you'll likely be able to earn credits from single player as well. You'd just get more if you play online with a new copy or pay for the online pass. Just means more work for you if you buy used and refuse to pay online pass is all. What you unlock with the credits may not even be worth it, who knows. The game isn't out yet.
TSAVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:11
TSAVO
@qlum

"Economy balance makes it possible to unlock all available content and allows you to participate in all event drops across both Explore and Global Events, with credits earned solely in Explore."

Really? You only had to read four paragraphs...
OneRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:11
OneRed
So basically, what they are doing is taking that "play for free for a few days, but then you have to buy a pass" thing to the next level, and allowing you to do what Halo let you do if you didn't have XBL gold. You can play a few things online, but that's about it.

It seems like some kind of compromise, but it really isn't. Online passes have no fact based necessity, and there has never been a single shred of evidence in support of publishers claims to the contrary (that I know of), and a glut of evidence pointing at publishers' notions on the subject being dead wrong.

Its brilliant PR spin. Create a problem, overstep your bounds in creating a solution to that problem, then watch as the community sees things like this as compromise.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:12
The Silent Protagonist
All or nothing.
Shit of get off the pot.
Etc.

Online pass = no buy period, new or used.

The only time EA every used an online pass properly was Alice: Madness Returns and they didn't even fucking market that game properly. It didn't punish, you just didn't get the original game if you bought used. That was fair, the rest of the online pass implementation has been bullshit and its doesn't matter if its mild or severe bullshit - I will not be told how I should buy my games.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:18
Gorescream
polished turd-pass :(
PiggyGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:20
PiggyGamer
It seems to me like you can do everything and unlock everything with or without the online pass. The pass essentially lets you unlock stuff faster, since you can't earn credits in one of the modes without it (probably the "funnest" mode).

Basically they're just making used buyers work harder?
Because games aren't about having fun, they're about WORK, man.
(I don't even know what point I'm trying to make)
PrinceHeir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:22
PrinceHeir
don't like online pass BS to be honest :\
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:25
Johnny Justice
Evergreen: Can you say anything good about this? "It's not as bad as other online passes" is a neutral statement.

People are still being punished for buying used.
Watts's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:27
Watts
You guys do realize what they're doing right? They start off taking everything away and then give you more so that they look like nice guys. Foot-In-The door psychology won't work on me EA.
TheLupineOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:30
TheLupineOne
Oh alright EA. I guess I forced you to own up and apologise. I guess I'll buy SSX after all. But if I find one problem with Online Pass implementation...

Also, purchasable virtual currency. Just sayin'.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:36
Rabite
Honestly this isn't that bad. It doesn't cripple the game horribly. I'm not actually interested in this game, but if they used this instead it might seem less anti-consumer.
KenAkuma's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:36
KenAkuma
Huh, I wonder if Soul Caliber will have an online pass?

Regardless I have to pre-order tonight as its the only way to unlock one of the characters less you wait for him as dlc at a later date.

That seems like a pretty fair bonus/incentive to by new, not that I would ever buy SC used as I like to support the FGC community every way I can.
The Cast's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:41
The Cast
SSX Tricky

I've realized that what that "Online Pass" should have been.
TheLupineOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:44
TheLupineOne
@KenAkuma Does Amazon have any pre-order exclusives? (UK specifically)
Nephlabobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 19:58
Nephlabobo
"This isn't so bad, if you ask me."

Stop making excuses for shitty business practices, you corporate shill.
KenAkuma's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 20:01
KenAkuma
Sorry I'm not sure, I'm pre ordering from GS.

It's my understanding that there is only one pre-order bonus (that character) regardless of wherever you pre-order (ie no site/retail exclusive pre-order bonus like in mk9) so I would assume you get that same pre-order bonus if you pre order from amazon.

Hope that helps, its definitely better than having to wait a month or something to have access to him and then have to pay as well :/
TheLupineOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 20:04
TheLupineOne
Don't worry, I've decided GAME has the better pre-order DLC, despite being £2 more expensive to buy from there.
RaginDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 20:12
RaginDude
Fuck them.
Paroxysm's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 20:50
Paroxysm
Goooooooooooooooooo fuck yourselves.
Sanious's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 20:54
Sanious
With all these on-line passes, I don't know when my next video game purchase will be.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 21:02
KingSigy
That's honestly not a bad deal at all. I don't know what the in-game credits do, but as long as you can still earn them and unlock later or aren't restricted from any of the content when bought used, then I'm fine.
The Cast's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 21:32
The Cast
@KingSigy then they need to call it a bonus, not a pass.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 22:00
Corduroy Turtle
I bet if they changed the name you guys wouldn't get so pissed.

How about "Credit Voucher"? Oh hey, that's not so bad.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 22:32
Gorescream
@Corduroy Turtle

They've done that in the past.
ctg867's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 22:42
ctg867
Allow me to rephrase that:

"If you don't give us money we did absolutely nothing to earn, we're still going to fuck you over, we're just doing it in a different way."

I don't care how you frame it. If you take value out of my products, I'm not going to buy them from you. I haven't bought an EA game in over two years now, and I don't plan on changing that unless they change their anti-consumer business practices that fuck over legitimate consumers.
Quixote's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 22:49
Quixote
Guys...keep at it. I think we're winning...
wtfsoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 23:03
wtfsoko
This is an acceptable compromise.
TurboKill's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 00:53
TurboKill
I'll stick to my PSP version. Yeah that's right.
STRYKIE's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 01:43
STRYKIE
@Turbokill
You mean the one you probably pirated and has insanely gimped controls?

@The Cast
Lol, the most pointless one, if anything I'd rather have the first game remastered seeing as it got swept under the rug at the PS2's launch.

@The Silent Protagonist
You say that as if you was actually going to buy the game in the first place, LOL
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 03:21
Sexualchocolate
Wow. Lot of people seem to rely on used games.

Personally this is almost null and void to me, as I'll be getting this new (it is SSX after all!!!) and apart from a little ballache in putting the code in, it won't really effect me.

Still, keep up the fight brothers!
jimfrog's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 05:21
jimfrog
When my fiancee and I moved out to the Welsh countryside 2 years ago gaming wasn't my main concern. I did a bit of single player on my Xbox and seldom went online.

Right now it's physically impossible to hook my console upto the net, the broadband out here's limited and the 200 year old building I live in doesn't like wifi signals so my xbox is a standalone unit and only gets updates like new dashboards when I buy new games that insist I install them before I can play.

I only ever bought the Xbox for single player, having completed Saints Row 3 recently (bought brand new) I feel short changed, it felt cut short to allow for DLC which I won't get access to, and I couldn't even download the professor Genki Pre-order pack because of my setup.

Now SSX (which i'm a massive fan of) is going to be limited fun because even though i'll be buying the launch game brand new there's no way i'll be able to access parts of the game unless I move house. Crap. I know this is the way things are going but spare a thought for the folk who seriously cannot hook their kit onto the internet even if they wanted to.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 06:43
HEL105
@jimfrog
I feel your pain and am in pretty much the same situation. Those without online access to their consoles are the ones who get screwed the most by this kind of thing (though not really in this case). We're essentially being punished with less content when buying new, which is just all kinds of retarded.
Noaxzl's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 07:38
Noaxzl
Okay. So that raises the question about what these credits are going to be used for in the first place. If it's so we can progress through the game, then that's even worse!

I was going to buy this game at launch, but now there's an online pass attached to it, it'll have to drop significantly in price before I even think about getting it. >.>
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 07:54
fetusmilk
im also curious. does it mean you need the online pass to use these credits in the game to unlock stuff only in multiplayer?

or can you get credits playing 1 player and use those to unlock stuff?

as long as it doesnt effect my single player modes, i dont care. prob wont be playing this online anyway
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 08:45
Scuffles
That sounds a whole lot like the oll freemimu pricing scheme to me.

When should I be looking out for F2P SSX with a cash shop?
novelty987's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 08:48
novelty987
please... cry us all a river.
CalmGiant's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 09:09
CalmGiant
Buying it new anyway so whatever.
FPS Baby Jesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 09:09
FPS Baby Jesus
Honestly, all this bitching is sad. Buy the game NEW. You are gonna only save $5. Maybe if you buy new, we won't have to wait damn near 10 years to receive a new SSX. Why cry about something over and over. When something is unacceptable to me, I don't buy it.
FPS Baby Jesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 09:17
FPS Baby Jesus
Also, why is it newsworthy every time an EA title gets an online pass. EA is the person who came up with the concept for console games. Why the hell would you expect anything else. I'll be surprised when they don't include an online pass.
VitaminShoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 09:47
VitaminShoe
Why does everyone always say you only save $5 if you buy a game used? Why is the assumption that people are buying that $54 version that is on the shelf the week of release. I generally buy used games almost a year after release and generally save a lot more than $5. Though to play devils advocate if you saved 5 bucks on a used title every time you bought one your 12th game is free. I don't really have a problem with the online pass system as long as the penalty isn't too harsh and strips away a major part of the game. If I pay $10 for a copy of Dead Space 2 I got in the bargain bin and the multiplayer isn't active unless I drop a tenner on it I'm not exactly heartbroken. But SSX I will probobly buy new anyways.
maycausecancer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 10:02
maycausecancer
so you cant earn in-game credits online if you buy used.

could of been worse
PicoTheGuyo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 10:06
PicoTheGuyo
@ VitaminShoe

"Why does everyone always say you only save $5 if you buy a game used?"

Because straw men arguments are easier to tear down.

@ FPS Baby Jesus
"why is it newsworthy every time an EA title gets an online pass"

Because some of us want to be kept up to date on what titles to avoid and what new publisher/developer is trying to screw over gamers. It is newsworthy, but you don't have to read it if you don't like it, and you certainly don't have to comment about how it shouldn't be commented on. Shine a light on this stuff I say.
Sanious's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 11:03
Sanious
I don't expect to win any 'fight' against EA or anyone with online passes because at this point it is clear that most people are either OK with it or just don't care cause it doesn't effect them. I don't want to spend money on a company I think practices bullshit like this.

Why is that a problem for anyone else? If an online pass doesn't effect you, then why do people feel the need to comment on others who are choosing not to pay? Clearly that doesn't effect 'you' either.

It's funny how much people will say 'speak with your money' and then when it comes to doing that people will tell you that you're whining or bitching.
Delusibeta's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 11:23
Delusibeta
I'm amused by the number of people who didn't read the article. Considering Global Events is AFAIK an online-only mode, the "I have a permanantly offline console" argument (see jimfrog's post) is entirely academic. There's also people in here who are completely wrong (qlum, OneRed etc)

For the benefit of those who haven't researched, in SSX there are a credits system in which if you beat the medal times in Explore mode, you get awarded credits (AFAIK a Gold medal gets you 20,000). You can also get credits for surpassing various targets (e.g. air time, grind time, number of backflips etc), picking up developer placed collectables etc. If you have an online pass, you can also gain credits by beating your friends times and picking up user placed collectables and winning Global Events. You can spend your credits for unlocking courses in Explore mode, and various equipment upgrades and similar stuff.

We shall see how much the lack of online credits will affect used gamers at launch: quite honestly I don't think it will.
thefaulk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2012 11:28
thefaulk
Did anybody actually read the article before commenting?
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