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Colin boyle, are you telling me that something that can possibly ruin a game I paid $60 for and a way to stop it from ruining it is paying another $50 and you want to just pay it and stop complaining? How about you pay it for me and shut the hell up and quit whining about other people's legitimate concerns? :)
If you don't like it, don't buy it. I'm fairly sure you'll be able to get into a server if you don't buy this.
Also I look back as far as, oh I don't know, Bad Company 2's VIP pass which was far and away superior to this, and I say I am not excited. In fact I would go as far to say I am dissapoint.
Queue priority is retarded. Everything else is entirely reasonable from a cost/value perspective. Discount on DLC, fluff, fine. Queue priority? Dumb.
I've been in queue once....ONCE for like 4 seconds out of 160hrs+ and then ya know what? I joined a different game.
It's not THAT big of a deal at all and it's your choice to sit and try to join a full game when there are 100 other games that are open. If you whine for sitting there for 5 minutes waiting to get in a full game you are a hilarious person and probably stand in the longest line up when buying groceries because, hey, that means it's the BEST cashier out of them all right!?
I will NOT be supporting this crap at all though, fuck it EA.
It's not THAT big of a deal at all and it's your choice to sit and try to join a full game when there are 100 other games that are open. If you whine for sitting there for 5 minutes waiting to get in a full game you are a hilarious person and probably stand in the longest line up when buying groceries because, hey, that means it's the BEST cashier out of them all right!?
I will NOT be supporting this crap at all though, fuck it EA.
Meh. More power to EA.
People were dumb enough to pay full price for an EA game in the first place or buy an online pass, dumb enough to pay exorbitant DLC prices, dumb enough to rent servers, why wouldn't people throw their money away for this too?
EA is doing humanity a service. Every dollar they take is one less fools have to sustain themselves and reproduce.
People were dumb enough to pay full price for an EA game in the first place or buy an online pass, dumb enough to pay exorbitant DLC prices, dumb enough to rent servers, why wouldn't people throw their money away for this too?
EA is doing humanity a service. Every dollar they take is one less fools have to sustain themselves and reproduce.
It's only okay if you do this for Call of Duty. You can't do this for Battlefield 3 because it's unfair and makes me sad.
LOGIC.
LOGIC.
"Don't like it? Don't buy it."
THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE! I HAVE NEVER HEARD THIS PIECE OF ADVICE BEFORE. HOLY SHIT YOU SHOULD BE A FINANCIAL ADVISER.
THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE! I HAVE NEVER HEARD THIS PIECE OF ADVICE BEFORE. HOLY SHIT YOU SHOULD BE A FINANCIAL ADVISER.
@SephirothX
Call of Duty Elite is a bad joke at best, with its horrible management and the utter ineptitude of Beachhead, but it isn't actually as offensive what what EA are doing here.
Elite was offered at game release, before anyone bought any DLC, while Premium is being offered after five DLC packs have already been released.
Elite offers no real in-game exclusives. Elite users get early DLC map access, but that privilege is a double-edged sword as they are restricted to a smaller player base, and all eventually see DLC pack release. Elite gets Clan Ops and such, but they mostly come down to ways to temporarily get XP boosts. I think Elite ran some contests open only to Elite subscribers, but people questioned the legitimacy of the winners anyway.
Premium, on the other hand, has promised in-game exclusive items and server queue priority.
Call of Duty Elite is a bad joke at best, with its horrible management and the utter ineptitude of Beachhead, but it isn't actually as offensive what what EA are doing here.
Elite was offered at game release, before anyone bought any DLC, while Premium is being offered after five DLC packs have already been released.
Elite offers no real in-game exclusives. Elite users get early DLC map access, but that privilege is a double-edged sword as they are restricted to a smaller player base, and all eventually see DLC pack release. Elite gets Clan Ops and such, but they mostly come down to ways to temporarily get XP boosts. I think Elite ran some contests open only to Elite subscribers, but people questioned the legitimacy of the winners anyway.
Premium, on the other hand, has promised in-game exclusive items and server queue priority.
Again. Seriously. Who is actually waiting in queues to get on a BF3 server? It's so much of a non-issue that I can't believe they're actually calling it a feature.
"No, this is EA being Activision."
No, Activision only really fucks over their *employees.* EA fucks over *everyone.*
No, Activision only really fucks over their *employees.* EA fucks over *everyone.*
Up next: Mass Effect 4 Premium Edition. For a mere $50, you get access to extra characters, exclusive weapons, exclusive missions, the option to remove the 20 FPS lock (up to a smooth 60!), and a completely free High-Resolution texture pack. As a bonus for PC players, the premium package on PC will also add a fully customizable "graphics settings" and mod support.
EA representatives claim this is purely an optional download intended to enhance the experience.
EA representatives claim this is purely an optional download intended to enhance the experience.
And this is the reason I don't do business with EA.
I don't even care about Battlefield, never played it, never would have played it. However because EA continues to pull crap like this I will continue to avoid games developed/published by EA even games I would have otherwise been interested in.
I have just gotten to the point where I can't in good conscience support them in any way shape and or form, if it means missing out on a game I would have enjoyed, so be it.
At least I'm not giving them my money while simultaneously whining that they treat their customers like crap.
I don't even care about Battlefield, never played it, never would have played it. However because EA continues to pull crap like this I will continue to avoid games developed/published by EA even games I would have otherwise been interested in.
I have just gotten to the point where I can't in good conscience support them in any way shape and or form, if it means missing out on a game I would have enjoyed, so be it.
At least I'm not giving them my money while simultaneously whining that they treat their customers like crap.
@Dixon
So how is paying for something and getting a perk from it any different than, say, a pre-order bonus or any other incentives games try to give you? Plus, its not like you aren't going to be able to find a game in Battlefield 3 because of this.
So how is paying for something and getting a perk from it any different than, say, a pre-order bonus or any other incentives games try to give you? Plus, its not like you aren't going to be able to find a game in Battlefield 3 because of this.
I have read somewhere about a bc2 server emulator, and they claim that are working on a bf3 emu right now. If they do that I will go there I don't care if my account gets banned
Server priority is not an issue. For anyone that plays the game, How often do you really get stuck in a que? Seriously, I have only had that happen like 3x since release and I have well over 250 hrs in. Even when it did happen, i just bailed to go find another server that isn't full already. I don't join full matches anyway, it's best to find one that has around 15 or so players. Regular players aren't being "punished", there are 100's of servers to choice from at any given time. I have my own server so this isn't an issue for me anyway.
As far as the expansion packs, I was probably going to buy anyway so that is a great deal. Regardless what everyone thinks, i really enjoy battlefield 3 and can't wait for new maps.
As far as the expansion packs, I was probably going to buy anyway so that is a great deal. Regardless what everyone thinks, i really enjoy battlefield 3 and can't wait for new maps.
@SephirothX: "SeE anDY, i cAN sUk EAs dIk t00. lIk a b0Ss"
fUk ofF cOnsUmEr wHorE. fUckIng ovEr nOn-pAyErs iS nOt a "iNceNtiVIzINg pErK".
fUk ofF cOnsUmEr wHorE. fUckIng ovEr nOn-pAyErs iS nOt a "iNceNtiVIzINg pErK".
@SephirothX
"So how is paying for something and getting a perk from it any different than, say, a pre-order bonus or any other incentives games try to give you? Plus, its not like you aren't going to be able to find a game in Battlefield 3 because of this."
"Queue priority into servers" is not an added feature or "perk". They're not letting people who pay more money join games faster. They're just making those of us who DON'T pay more money wait in line longer.
Sure it's true that I rarely join servers with queues. But that doesn't change the fact that by offering skip-to-the-front-of-the-line-like-big-titted-bimbos-at-a-club access to those who pay more while us douchebags with bitch tits and backne are forced to wait longer to join is a kick to the fucking dick.
The precedent this sets is frightening.
"So how is paying for something and getting a perk from it any different than, say, a pre-order bonus or any other incentives games try to give you? Plus, its not like you aren't going to be able to find a game in Battlefield 3 because of this."
"Queue priority into servers" is not an added feature or "perk". They're not letting people who pay more money join games faster. They're just making those of us who DON'T pay more money wait in line longer.
Sure it's true that I rarely join servers with queues. But that doesn't change the fact that by offering skip-to-the-front-of-the-line-like-big-titted-bimbos-at-a-club access to those who pay more while us douchebags with bitch tits and backne are forced to wait longer to join is a kick to the fucking dick.
The precedent this sets is frightening.
@Andy, you're comparing sexiness and wealth. The fugly overcome sexiness WITH wealth. Since this game doesn't cater to sexiness but will cater to money, it's an odd comparison, no?
But as you say regarding your own experience, people who don't pay won't be affected by this if they don't normally wait in queues. So.. who gives a shit? Cheaper price for DLC, and a tiny incentive to join games faster. Wow, big deal.
But as you say regarding your own experience, people who don't pay won't be affected by this if they don't normally wait in queues. So.. who gives a shit? Cheaper price for DLC, and a tiny incentive to join games faster. Wow, big deal.
gLaD tA sEe sO mAny fUkkIn EA emPLoYeEs hErE tOdAy. fUk oFf indigit4L, n0 oNe's bUYinG y0 "iT hURts nO onE" bUllSHIt.
I haven't gotten any of the DLC yet, so $50 seems fine for all DLC, considering with CoD the DLC is usually $15 per pack for just three or four little maps. And with Battlefield 3 the DLC includes new weapons and vehicles, or in the case of Close Quarters changing up the gameplay quite a bit. I can, however see why people who have already purchased the DLC would be pissed.
It makes me happy that EA is facing large financial trouble right now, and that Double Fine has more than enough money to develop its game.
First they came for the people who sometimes get put in server queues because they prefer to play on a DICE server and not one run by a 12-year-old, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't affected by server queues.
Then they came for the people who like to spawn in vehicles when they respawn instead of standing around waiting for them to appear, and I didn't speak out because I can't fly helicopters anyway.
Then they came for the people who like to spawn on their squadmates, and I didn't speak out because I prefer to run the mile-and-a-half from the base every time.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
;)
Then they came for the people who like to spawn in vehicles when they respawn instead of standing around waiting for them to appear, and I didn't speak out because I can't fly helicopters anyway.
Then they came for the people who like to spawn on their squadmates, and I didn't speak out because I prefer to run the mile-and-a-half from the base every time.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
;)
The server queue priority thing is bullshit. Everything else is fine. COD Elite did it and it's a great value for the most hardcore gamers. If EA can get its shit together with this server nonsense, I might actually consider buying its games again.
Maybe.
Maybe.
"The already controversial service will cost $50 and contains all five expansion packs, alongside future DLC, exclusive in-game items, the power to reset stats, AND server queue priority -- by far the most aggravating bit. So, it's going to be a real kick in the teeth to existing consumers, while EA gets to potentially make twice as much money off the sale of a game it released last year. It's a good enough scheme to be criminal."
The only reason I find it controversail is because its coming so late in the game. If it was Day 1 with Battlefield 3, then it'd be fine but to offer this to people who might have the DLC already, for the same price, is kind of lame.
Otherwise its a better deal then the CoD one from what I could tell.. At least in price.
The future DLC part interests me in the same way it also turns my stomach -how much more DLC are they seriously planning?
The only reason I find it controversail is because its coming so late in the game. If it was Day 1 with Battlefield 3, then it'd be fine but to offer this to people who might have the DLC already, for the same price, is kind of lame.
Otherwise its a better deal then the CoD one from what I could tell.. At least in price.
The future DLC part interests me in the same way it also turns my stomach -how much more DLC are they seriously planning?
So correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not a BF3 player here, but this sounds like it could potentially mean ridiculously long server queues for non-premium players? Like if premium players kept logging in while a non-premium was in queue, he'd keep getting kicked back? Well yeah, that sounds like a shitty deal to have for someone who already paid 60 bucks for this crap. I mean, I can understand if the non-premium didn't even pay, but this doing this shit to a paying customer is ridiculous.
Can't believe anybody would even defend this sort of thing, it's pretty fucked up.
Can't believe anybody would even defend this sort of thing, it's pretty fucked up.
@ctg867
Like I said, Elite didn't do it.
Elite doesn't offer exclusive in-game items, while Premium does.
Elite was available at launch. Premium is coming out after the biggest BF3 fans have already bought the initial DLC.
As for server queues, even if queue waits aren't currently an issue, we don't know what EA will do to affect it in the future. This could just be a moral issue that never really impacts the game, or it could become an issue in the future.
Like I said, Elite didn't do it.
Elite doesn't offer exclusive in-game items, while Premium does.
Elite was available at launch. Premium is coming out after the biggest BF3 fans have already bought the initial DLC.
As for server queues, even if queue waits aren't currently an issue, we don't know what EA will do to affect it in the future. This could just be a moral issue that never really impacts the game, or it could become an issue in the future.
I don't get why people are so pissed about Sever queue priority. It just means when you try to get into a full sever and get put into a queue then the premeuim members are first.. honestly I've never sat in a queue for a sever I just go to one with slots open. Honestly can you say you've sat and waited in a queue for a sever?
Hell, why stop at $50? Make it a nice round $100, shut down all public servers, and start charging a $5 server fee every time the player joins a multiplayer game. Better yet: add a $2 fee for every unsuccessful join attempt, a $20 penalty for having high latency, and a $3 royalty fee for every use of the word "battlefield" in voice chat.
Forget incremental increases in the amount of money you try to squeeze out of your customer base, EA. Just milk them at every opportunity. You've got a game they like, and they have no willpower.
Forget incremental increases in the amount of money you try to squeeze out of your customer base, EA. Just milk them at every opportunity. You've got a game they like, and they have no willpower.
A lot of people are also assuming that this will allow you to keep the content after a year. I bet they take it away after a year if you stop subscribing.
Since the March 27 death patch I have been having a series of issues. Each one left me gameless for days or mostly weeks. This current one is now lasted five weeks. I 've gotten advice from a EA customer's relation guy which worked the time before this but nothing works now...just "Joining server". I am tapping out, I have spent more time trying to fix the problems the last three months than playing. I wish you guys luck trying to work through this shit, but I'm done.I completely uninstalled the game and its bastard son Origin and haven't looked back. I now just want to watch EA/Dice/BF3 fail. This has been the worst gaming experience I have ever had.
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