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This is beginning to sound better.
I still don't get why they didn't focus on this stuff in their conference, though.
I still don't get why they didn't focus on this stuff in their conference, though.
This is definitely welcome news and I'm looking forward to finding out as much as possible about the new console.
I won't be surprised when they announce a rear touch pad for it ;)
But 1080p, cool I guess. Not impressive since PS3 and 360 both support it, but nice to know.
But 1080p, cool I guess. Not impressive since PS3 and 360 both support it, but nice to know.
No internal HDD, huh? Clever. They've just cut down the price by quite a bit, and the average consumer won't even understand until they get it home. You'd almost think a HDD would be a requirement for a next gen console, but I guess not. I'm interested to know what kind of GPU it uses, and if it's significantly better than the 5 year old GPU in the PS3 and 360.
@falsenipple: They didn't really need any; just flaunting the specs and the console itself instead of its controller would've been much better than the stuff we got.
External hard drive support? That's good news. They'd have to in order to support DLC from the third parties they are hoping to attract, because I bet there won't be a lot of said flash memory in the thing.
I have a question, why on earth is the battery recharged via AC when the console has 4USB ports?
Honestly, this entire situation just underlines how out of touch with the core gamer Nintendo is. What's worse is how they continuously claim it's innovative.. it's nothing we haven't seen before.
In my opinion, they are not giving us specs or any kind of details because they're not ready yet, but they had to do SOMETHING at E3, so they announced the controller for the system that isn't finished.
Honestly, this entire situation just underlines how out of touch with the core gamer Nintendo is. What's worse is how they continuously claim it's innovative.. it's nothing we haven't seen before.
In my opinion, they are not giving us specs or any kind of details because they're not ready yet, but they had to do SOMETHING at E3, so they announced the controller for the system that isn't finished.
The tablet controller -- which Nintendo is simply calling the "New Controller" at this time
Can I dub this new controller the "U-pad"?
Can I dub this new controller the "U-pad"?
Holy crap that things huge!!! It reminds me of that bad ass tv controller Louie Rankin had in Belly.
I'm gonna need some hands on with a WiiU before I can decide if I need one or not.
I'm gonna need some hands on with a WiiU before I can decide if I need one or not.
Nintendo's conference was too short compared to MS and Sony's (Sony's seemed to go on forever) they could have spend a little time talking specs.
Although very vague in the details, it does look neat. There's a few things that bother me though.
First is most of the games they showed will off already been out on 360 / PS3 for months before this is released. It would seem pointless for me as what they call a core gamer to buy this at launch with what they have announced seeing as I already own a PS3 / 360.
Second is just this doesn't seem like it was quite ready for show yet. This seems more like a "We were first...... HA!" type of thing. Other then 5 seconds of pre-rendered Zelda footage, I didn't really see any first party titles for this which is strange for Nintendo.
First is most of the games they showed will off already been out on 360 / PS3 for months before this is released. It would seem pointless for me as what they call a core gamer to buy this at launch with what they have announced seeing as I already own a PS3 / 360.
Second is just this doesn't seem like it was quite ready for show yet. This seems more like a "We were first...... HA!" type of thing. Other then 5 seconds of pre-rendered Zelda footage, I didn't really see any first party titles for this which is strange for Nintendo.
There are way too many articles about this thing! Why not have one article about all the features and updates, and just keep adding onto that article? Just throwing out ideas, maybe thats more of a blog...haha IDK!
I hope they don't skimp on the internal memory. Expandability is nice, but I'd like to have it ready to play downloadable games out of the box...
Still not diggin' the controller. I guess the days of playing Nintendo games on standard controllers are over :(
Still not diggin' the controller. I guess the days of playing Nintendo games on standard controllers are over :(
That's certainly good news. Though, I still can't get over the cracked out controller. It looks uncomfortable to play and expensive as hell.
@Gilgamesh: As a company that has increasingly distanced itself from third party developers and the idea that something was going on outside of their company, a third party game or two would ease the nerves of many gamers that thought that Nintendo forgot about them.
That Nintendo went so far as announcing a slew of third party titles that would be available at launch along with stepping up to the industry standard is good, but I guarantee you that they would have shocked everyone at E3 if they had one, single working title to show in 1080p. I am not talking about the promise of titles either. I am talking about a living and breathing game. Instead they showed us a souped up tablet controller.
Sure, it looks like a beast and definitely has value, but it is neither here nor there in terms of what to expect on my television from their console. One game demo.. One.. That would seal the deal.
That Nintendo went so far as announcing a slew of third party titles that would be available at launch along with stepping up to the industry standard is good, but I guarantee you that they would have shocked everyone at E3 if they had one, single working title to show in 1080p. I am not talking about the promise of titles either. I am talking about a living and breathing game. Instead they showed us a souped up tablet controller.
Sure, it looks like a beast and definitely has value, but it is neither here nor there in terms of what to expect on my television from their console. One game demo.. One.. That would seal the deal.
@Nyktharas
Ontop of which we have no idea what the real graphical capability of this thing is - the demos look like standard wii stuff, the trailers they showed were 360 and ps3 footage.. it seemed like the whole show was them filling time.
Think about how long they spent with miyamoto playing with that orchestra at the start, how much time they dedicated to the 3DS stuff - how Iwata teased the Wii U without saying anything about it, dragging it on.. how the show itself was late but ended on time..
Ontop of that, there's games they didn't even show on the stage. What happened here was Nintendo didn't think their E3 conference was strong enough, so they jumped the gun and showed off the controller for their new system - which nintendo reps completely refuse to talk about, according to Reggie "Check those boxes, they're done." Without.. actually proving or telling us about that.
Ontop of which we have no idea what the real graphical capability of this thing is - the demos look like standard wii stuff, the trailers they showed were 360 and ps3 footage.. it seemed like the whole show was them filling time.
Think about how long they spent with miyamoto playing with that orchestra at the start, how much time they dedicated to the 3DS stuff - how Iwata teased the Wii U without saying anything about it, dragging it on.. how the show itself was late but ended on time..
Ontop of that, there's games they didn't even show on the stage. What happened here was Nintendo didn't think their E3 conference was strong enough, so they jumped the gun and showed off the controller for their new system - which nintendo reps completely refuse to talk about, according to Reggie "Check those boxes, they're done." Without.. actually proving or telling us about that.
@AnotherRumpKicker
"I have a question, why on earth is the battery recharged via AC when the console has 4USB ports? "
I have an answer - more options. I got the impression that the AC charger is there in ADDITION to being able to charge it via the standard USB ports.
"I have a question, why on earth is the battery recharged via AC when the console has 4USB ports? "
I have an answer - more options. I got the impression that the AC charger is there in ADDITION to being able to charge it via the standard USB ports.
"This is beginning to sound better. I still don't get why they didn't focus on this stuff in their conference, though."
Yeah all 3 of them leave important information out of their press conference's, for some stupid reason, but with Nintendo we know we're getting more announced yet to come. They have two roundtables, one tonight, and one tomorrow night. One is for 3rd Party's Wii U talk, and Wii U's online infrastructure is going to be talked about at one of them. Reggie pretty much confirmed that on GTTV. So lots more good stuff to come, but things are sounding better, and better for Wii U, as the day goes on!
Yeah all 3 of them leave important information out of their press conference's, for some stupid reason, but with Nintendo we know we're getting more announced yet to come. They have two roundtables, one tonight, and one tomorrow night. One is for 3rd Party's Wii U talk, and Wii U's online infrastructure is going to be talked about at one of them. Reggie pretty much confirmed that on GTTV. So lots more good stuff to come, but things are sounding better, and better for Wii U, as the day goes on!
So ... wait.
How the bloody hell do you hit the A button when using the right stick?
My wrist hurts just from thinking about it.
How the bloody hell do you hit the A button when using the right stick?
My wrist hurts just from thinking about it.
@Filthywill
Nobody that's had any time with the controller has said anything about a USB or mini-USB port on it.
Nobody that's had any time with the controller has said anything about a USB or mini-USB port on it.
Ummmm.... Why didn't Nintendo show the console, just the controller? WTF, man! I was confused about that, but thankfully, there is a console. I was watching the conference, thinking that the controller IS the console itself. I'll still buy this though. Anyone want to predict the price? *as Pachter* I think this will sell at $400, and the controller for $70, but since it's not Sony, Nintendo will keep being a success and not lose money per unit sold!
@ pokota
Honestly, that is a damn good question. I was never going to buy this anyway since Nintendo first party titles don't matter to me at all.
Another thing that bothers me is the proprietary optical media format. Has Nintendo learned nothing from the past? Consoles are a media hub. If that thing can't read standard DVDs and Blu rays at this point, what the hell are they doing? DD isn't the main format just yet though it it getting big.
Honestly, that is a damn good question. I was never going to buy this anyway since Nintendo first party titles don't matter to me at all.
Another thing that bothers me is the proprietary optical media format. Has Nintendo learned nothing from the past? Consoles are a media hub. If that thing can't read standard DVDs and Blu rays at this point, what the hell are they doing? DD isn't the main format just yet though it it getting big.
@janoDX - "Wait... External HDD support?... Nintendo Won..."
... why? You're going to have to explain that.
... why? You're going to have to explain that.
"The new controller incorporates a 6.2-inch, 16:9 touch screen and traditional button controls, including two analog Circle Pads. This combination removes the traditional barriers between games, players and the TV"
Lol wut @ traditional barriers between players and tv.Wtf does that even mean.Every console I ever owned I press buttons and shit happens on the t.v.If anything having a second screen that you have to look at creates a barrier between the players and the t.v.
Lol wut @ traditional barriers between players and tv.Wtf does that even mean.Every console I ever owned I press buttons and shit happens on the t.v.If anything having a second screen that you have to look at creates a barrier between the players and the t.v.
It looks impressive and the screen on the controller seems like it could lead to some really innovative gameplay. But...I can't see myself holding that big old blob of a controller for more than 30 minutes at a time.
Maybe it's more ergonomic than it looks.
Maybe it's more ergonomic than it looks.
My initial reaction to the Wii U's reveal was very low of the system, but as I think about it more and more it is sounding fantastic.
Sounds nice.
Again, this is all just a tease I think. I expected more but with a year or so until launch I think it'll keep getting better.
Again, this is all just a tease I think. I expected more but with a year or so until launch I think it'll keep getting better.
@pokota
My 360 allows HDD but, only up to 16GB and renders the HDD useless for other stuff... Nintendo storage never do that... And with my good 1TB External HDD I can do magic.
My 360 allows HDD but, only up to 16GB and renders the HDD useless for other stuff... Nintendo storage never do that... And with my good 1TB External HDD I can do magic.
@pokota I have been wondering that since I saw the controller. Anyone with common sense could see that hitting the face button would be hard if not impossible while using the analog stick. Nintendo had to had rushed this thing for E3 because I don't see how they could mess that up. Also having an external HDD will limit developers to a certain extent. This was said about the 360 when it came out. Developer are less likely to do certain things because everyone doesn't have HDDs. Why not in this day and age have a HDD built right in?
Honestly, hearing some of this makes it sound a lot more promising than it initially presented itself. I could see myself actually buying this, if just to play Nintendo's first-party games in HD. Then again, I'm pretty sure that's what most Nintendo fans have been hoping for for the past few years.
@pokota: Well, first of all, a game shouldn't ask of you to press A as you're using the analog, really. I realize things aren't that simple and there are input limitations, but the fact that I don't have to juggle my fingers around is one of the main reasons I believe PC gaming to be superior in most cases when it comes to gameplay(Sucky WASD not taken into consideration, though)
The size of the buttons looks awful... I was hoping they went for a GameCube like model.
The size of the buttons looks awful... I was hoping they went for a GameCube like model.
I love the sound of hdd support. hopefully they won't try some M$ bullshit like with the 360, basically what jano said.
Interested, not convinced... if the games are just what the other consoles are putting out then I already own the other ones.
"Sensor Stripe"? Sounds like a built-in sensor bar for the controller, probably so we would be able to play Wii games on the controller directly.
I'm curious though, what happens if someone were to use 2 of these new controllers?
Also, would it be possible to play the same game on single player on both screens, at the same time?
I'm curious though, what happens if someone were to use 2 of these new controllers?
Also, would it be possible to play the same game on single player on both screens, at the same time?
So, Transfarring but with a huge ass awkward tablet.
I..I don't understand what's the appeal of this.
I..I don't understand what's the appeal of this.
@Springsteen
I'm not talking about concurrently, but when you have to go back and forth between the two. It looks very awkward. Now that I think about it, it also seems like the base of the thumb might accidentally hit the A button, as well. I hope this is a prototype, even though it looks really polished.
As far as an external HDD goes, I wasn't aware of the limitations of the 360 in that regard. I know you can connect an external HDD to a PS3 with a little work, though.
I'm not talking about concurrently, but when you have to go back and forth between the two. It looks very awkward. Now that I think about it, it also seems like the base of the thumb might accidentally hit the A button, as well. I hope this is a prototype, even though it looks really polished.
As far as an external HDD goes, I wasn't aware of the limitations of the 360 in that regard. I know you can connect an external HDD to a PS3 with a little work, though.
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