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E3: Month delay for Rage, idTech 5 unsuitable for Skyrim photo

Rage has been delayed by a month from its September 13rd release date to October 4th (October 7 for Europe), Gamasutra reports.

John Carmack has also pitched in on the fact that id Tech 5 would only be used in-house at Bethesda, and told Gamasutra that he's happy to be out the licensing business in order to focus on finishing Rage and working on Doom 4 (and Rage 2 after that). Carmack reflected on licensing their tech in the past.

"It's interesting when you look at our technology licensing -- it was never really a business that I wanted to be in. In the very early days, people would pester us, and we'd just throw out some ridiculous terms, and we were surprised when people started taking us up on it."

He noted that while id Tech 5's megatexture direction has its uses for games like Rage, it is less suitable for things like Bethesda's The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim where there is a whole open world to render. So while we can expect more id Tech 5 powered games coming from Bethesda, that doesn't mean the publisher is going to have all of its upcoming games run on the new engine.

id Software's Tom Willits pointed out that we shouldn't worry that becoming part of Bethesda would limit the studio's traditional openness towards its community, and that the PC version of Rage will still have the SDK and other "stuff" made available to the community. Just don't mod it into your own Just Cause game if you want people to actually be able to run it.

id Software's Rage Delayed Until October [Gamasutra]








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lastkingofhearts's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 10:18
lastkingofhearts
No gamebryo please.
unreeler's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 10:19
unreeler
Id show us RTWC2
Darkenmal's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 10:23
Darkenmal
Spelling mistake. Liimit. lol.
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 10:49
Stigmeyer
What unreeler said. BIG TIME.
Maxwell Roahrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 10:53
Maxwell Roahrig
Nooooo!
Swanny's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 11:18
Swanny
October 4th is Dark Souls day!
and the week after that is Forza 4!
I was already dead to the world come October and now, I'm just fucked that much harder!
Damn it!
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 11:18
Dv8thwonder
I hope megatextures look better in motion because that heard looks early OG Xbox.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 11:19
Dv8thwonder
Edit: header>heard
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 11:55
Mr Andy Dixon
I'm kinda glad it's been delayed. Gives me more time with Gears 3 :)
SmileyBarry's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 12:07
SmileyBarry
I'd love it if Skyrim came with a little note that has a trollface, saying: "idTech 5 was unsuitable for Skyrim. So we went back to that Gamebryo engine you love so much. -Bethesda".
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 12:10
WarZombie
Dark Souls and Rage releasing together? Wallet, I am so very sorry.
StealthMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 12:13
StealthMaster
I'm ok with this delay.
lastdual's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 13:54
lastdual
iD tech 5's megatextures wouldn't work well with Skyrim due to their huge file sizes and the limits of DVDs.

Rage needs 3 DVDs on the 360 & PC due to those textures. iD can get away with it since Rage's world is sectioned into zones, but with a seamless open world like Skyrim, disk swapping would mean death. You would need a hefty mandatory install or a medium with more disk space (blu-ray).

Skyrim's world is composed of smaller textures that get tiled, and so the total file size stays lower, allowing the game to still fit on a single DVD. And honestly, the game looks great, so I'm not really worried.
lastdual's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 13:54
lastdual
iD tech 5's megatextures wouldn't work well with Skyrim due to their huge file sizes and the limits of DVDs.

Rage needs 3 DVDs on the 360 & PC due to those textures. iD can get away with it since Rage's world is sectioned into zones, but with a seamless open world like Skyrim, disk swapping would mean death. You would need a hefty mandatory install or a medium with more disk space (blu-ray).

Skyrim's world is composed of smaller textures that get tiled, and so the total file size stays lower, allowing the game to still fit on a single DVD. And honestly, the game looks great, so I'm not really worried.
hughescasey23's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 13:55
hughescasey23
Damn October is a beast time for gaming and November will be even better
Harbinger o Deth's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 14:16
Harbinger o Deth
I'll listen and approve of anything John Carmack says about ANYTHING game development related, he knows his shit. id Tech 5 is looking like the best engine I've seen so far, excited to see what they do with it in the future.
CommanderMeaty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 17:21
CommanderMeaty
Fuck Rage 2, I want a new Quake game!
Sir Tobbii's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 17:55
Sir Tobbii
People asking for Wolfenstein and Quake, you have to bother people like Raven about that, Id is not interested at the moment.
32BitSin's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 19:22
32BitSin
Damn, well, I'm already getting Dark Souls on Oct. 4th. So they just got screwed out of a day 1 sale from yours truly.
CommanderMeaty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/10/2011 22:29
CommanderMeaty
Can they at least let another dev handle the Commander Keen Ip? because it really seem that Id Software won't even bother for a comeback Keen
bulldiscphuncrop71's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2011 17:38
bulldiscphuncrop71
the party was our own party. Thus for the first, and perhaps only time order flagyl online
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