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E3 keynote speaker wants some of us to go to Hell photo

Let's be honest here -- we all know that the ESA's public image of late is not, shall we say, spectacular? However, when the organization brings out a politician to deliver a keynote speech, a politician that has publicly backed the preachings of a half-baked fundamental anti-semite ... well, it's not going to improve the PR situation, is it? 

Minister John Hagee once controversially condemned non-Christians to Hell (as ya do) and went as far as to say that Adolf Hitler had been doing the work of The Lord by "hastening the desire of Jews to return to Israel in accordance with biblical prophecy." That's pretty out-there as far as religious beliefs go, I'd say. Perry doesn't really seem to mind though, if this 2006 report is anything to go by:

Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and country sermon attended by dozens of political candidates Sunday, said that he agreed with the minister that non-Christians will be condemned to hell.

"In my faith, that's what it says, and I'm a believer of that," the governor said.

...Asked afterward at a political rally whether he agreed with Mr. Hagee, the governor said he didn't hear anything that he would take exception to. He said that he believes in the inerrancy of the Bible and that those who don't accept Jesus as their savior will go to hell.
Remind me again ... why aren't companies staying with the ESA?

GamePolitics ran this story and questioned the ESA's decision to politicize the Electronic Entertainment Expo in such a needless way. The ESA surprisingly went mad over GP's report and accused it of ... I guess, anti-ESA fanboyism?

If the ESA posted a blog and called it a news site, journalists would rightfully balk and it wouldn't pass a smell test. Remarkably, GamePolitics doesn't face the same scrutiny even though it's funded by the ECA and tainted with anti-ESA vitriol. At the end of the day, calling GamePolitics a news site is as laughable as saying there's a Cuban free press.

Ouch. Someone has their claws out.

Frankly, this whole situation is a complete PR mess and the ESA isn't doing itself any favors by exploding at a Web site and taking childish pot-shots at its credibility. Correct me should I be wrong, but if your association is bleeding associates, it's usually a good idea to inspire confidence in those left rather than lose the plot in this manner.

But still, tell me more of this Cuban free press. Sounds fascinating.








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JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:27
JACK of No Trades
I'd rather go to hell than to deal with these hypocrites.

Anybody that forces their relegion upon another is no better than the devil they protray in their fairytale book.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:32
ace of knaves
What happens when you put a religous extremist in front of a room full of young, modern, intelligent people?

I can't wait to find out!
niacin's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:33
niacin
Why do so many nutjobs who believe that not only is the rapture fucking real but that it's coming soon get so much media exposure?
Spitfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:35
Spitfire
Im still amazed that Gov Perry is the key-note speaker. He is a total goober. Sounds like the ESA and him are a good fit.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:36
Neonie
Haha wow.
craineum's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:38
craineum
Totally off topic... but I love the picture... Hieronymus Bosch is one of my fav artists. He was extremely sick and twisted for his time.

Oh, and I agree about the ESA... they should just go away at this point.
bioshocked's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:42
bioshocked
Well, we all know: Fundies say the darndest things...

http://fstdt.com/
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:46
Noah
He said he agreed that non-Christians will go to hell, not that Hitler was doing the Lord's work. Any Christian is guilty of this belief, is this supposed to be surprising?


Do you think that all Muslims think that 9/11 was a good thing just because they may have agreed with 'some' of the theology that the terrorists believed in?

Anti-Christian Flamebait alert...yet again
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:49
Jim Sterling
Yeah, but you're Noah ... you're kind of biased.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:51
Jetsetlemming
Uh...
So it's ESA sort of kinda associates with a politician who associates with a minister who endorses Hitler.


Well. That's some shit.
The reason companies are abandoning ship of the ESA is financial, not political however. Nobody really cares about this sort of thing when it comes to business.
Drunken Haze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 09:53
Drunken Haze
This just in; religions belive in a heaven for thir followers and people defend themselves when attacked.

Captain obvious to the rescue.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:08
Usedtabe
Yes, because Perry's religious beliefs should have anything to do with a speech on video games. Those of you thinking he shouldn't be the speaker because of his beliefs would claim discrimination if the same were said of an outspoken atheist or muslim. I don't like Perry at all, but I can think of many other reasons to wonder why he is the speaker besides his religious beliefs.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:18
Noah
@ Jim.


Actually I'm just a big fan of Noah Wiley from ER

...and just because a Christian points it out something in a religious discussion doesn't mean it doesn't hold weight. From the way you wrote this, you're trying to get people furious by a very simple and commonly known biblical belief... and by tagging the whole Hitler thing onto it, even though it isn't relevant in any way, well I call that flamebait.

If my opinion is biased because I have a biblical name and happen to be a Christian, then I'd say that your constant criticism of Christianity in your posts makes you equally biased and passionate about something that you believe in.

So, why is it so important that the keynote speaker at E3 is a Christian? I don't think it should be an issue at all.
crimson diabolik's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:18
crimson diabolik
Oh what I would give to see that keynote speech.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:21
JACK of No Trades
Noah

Christains are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, right beside Catholics.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:21
king3vbo
RELIGION
That is all
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:26
linuxguy
I as an open minded Muslim know too well how you feel about this kind of peeps.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:36
Jim Sterling
"Actually I'm just a big fan of Noah Wiley from ER"

I wanted you to be the actual Noah. :-(

"...and just because a Christian points it out something in a religious discussion doesn't mean it doesn't hold weight."

I was joking. See above. I actually was interested in the Christian view of this story.

"From the way you wrote this, you're trying to get people furious by a very simple and commonly known biblical belief... and by tagging the whole Hitler thing onto it, even though it isn't relevant in any way, well I call that flamebait."

Wasn't quite my intention. I honestly wasn't trying to rile people up against Christians. This is about the ESA and Perry, not Christianity as a whole. My views on organized religion are not the place for the frontpage. I did that once and don't do it anymore.

The fact is, people like Hagee are not people that decent and nice Christians really want to associate themselves with.

Which isn't even the crux of the issue. The crux of the issue is Perry's appearance at E3, which is out of place and weird.
PaperBowser0's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 10:52
PaperBowser0
man, now I have to go steal somebody's tickets to E3 and see that keynote. :D
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 11:06
Eschatos
So before Jesus did everyone go to Hell? Or is this guy just full of shit?
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 11:06
blehman
/facepalm @ Tx gov.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 11:16
eternalplayer2345
I hate overzelaous Christians like these, I myself am I christian and stand by my belief. But I didn't ever think I would need to say this on destructoid as it should be irrelevant. When you're our in a gubernatorial position , you should NOT allow yourself to impose you're religion on the people you govern. Talking and teaching the biible im fine with even. Just this guilt trip clusterfuck people use one others when trying to win them to their religion makes me extremely mad. All that well ever come out of that is people who hate you automatically and people who well be confused and you will win over but they well eventually be even more confused and distruaght than before you showed them the "light". I've seen it innumerable times and I absolutely abhorr the practice of "Hellfire" preaching.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 11:37
Demtor
Hmm, I wonder what he will speak about that would make him relevant for that kind of event. Violence in video games? Moral responsibilities of game developers? Jesus wore moccasins instead of sandals? Who knows! I can't wait! The excitement is killing me.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 11:53
Maurice Tan
Christ...
boatorious's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 12:44
boatorious
Wow, so Christians believe that non-Christians go to hell?

That's Huge News! Next you'll tell me that churches have cross-shaped objects in them, or that the congregation often sings song together.

I just ... I just have trouble believing that anybody could not know that Christians believe that. It's kind of a fundamental part of the religion, you know?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 13:09
Sharpless
Yeah, I really don't see the controversy with the "non-Christians go to hell" part. This is a basic, common belief. In fact, it's one of the backbones of the faith, as Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father except through me." I, myself, believe this. Now, does that make me treat non-Christians poorly? Do I think they're less-than-human infidels and I'm better than them? Absolutely-fucking-not. People are still people, regardless of their beliefs.

So, while Hagee is completely off-base on most of the things he says, this part is pretty standard. I do agree though, this guy is a really odd choice for an E3 speaker. Who cares about E3 anymore, anyway? PAX wins.

@JACK of No Trades
Actually, I've met just as many atheist and non-Christian hypocrites as Christian ones. You know, like the ones who trash and diss Christianity, when they themselves cry about Christians not being tolerant of other beliefs? Everyone is guilty of hypocrisy, regardless of personal beliefs. Criticism is fine, we deserve it; but let's spread it around evenly.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 13:16
manasteel88
Rick Perry is my jackass govenor. He says something stupid and it shocks you outsiders, but we have to put up with this day in and day out as Texans. I demand you pity us!
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 13:20
Usedtabe
@manasteel88: Agreed. When Perry's not trying to shove the trans-Texas corridor up our ass, he's saying some of the craziest things. But, he's a politician, and they stopped working for us years ago.
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 13:29
blehman
I wish Kinky was my govenor...
Milkman519's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 14:21
Milkman519
Religion is stupid.

But besides that, WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GUY AT E3? What does he have to do with games?
AaronLindes Neighbor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 14:56
AaronLindes Neighbor
Seeing as how his state must derive significant employment numbers and taxation revenue due to shoddy hardware from microsoft, I think he does have something to add to the discourse.

Title to his keynote:
"Thank you Microsoft for making McAllen and Mesquite the place where your hardware comes to be zombified."
JRisJunior's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 16:33
JRisJunior
i think gamers have seen so many different perspectives on the world that, we may all be, in fact, not very religious and judge what is right or wrong by what we stand by, not what some religion is telling us to do.

speaking of which, i hope retards like that die in a balance of pain and swiftness.
Peronthious's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 16:44
Peronthious
Are we seriously blaming the ESA for the religious beliefs of the people it chooses to speak at its functions? Governor Perry was chosen because he is the governor of a state that has a relatively high game developer presence, and has likely worked in some way to encourage game development in his state. He was not at all chosen because of his religious views, and I seriously doubt anything he says will come close to touching on them.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 22:29
Volomon
@Peronthious The answer to that would be yes, an E3 event is not a governmental or religious event. Such a dumb ass no matter what his views are on anything else is still a dumb ass. He clearly states his views are applied to all things and all people to have a Hilter supporter, a Genocide supporter, and a Religious Fanatic at an E3 even as a speaker is insane.

I don't know maybe you shrug that kind of stuff off but I don't think anyone else will.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2008 23:32
hpv
john hagee is not only an enormous bigot but also an idiot (as bigots tend to be). Not only does he call the catholic church "the great whore" (what the fuck does that even mean anyway?), in part for aiding hitler, but he then says that god (the imaginary friend he claims to love and serve) sent hitler to kill the Jews so they'd go back to the middle east. These idiots can't even make idiotic and racist sense while being idiotic and racist. Besides, everyone knows that john hagee's mom is the great whore. She's available 24/7 and only charges a dollar.

Anyone who does not denounce, reject, and kick john hagee (and those like him) in the balls on sight should not be speaking to anyone anywhere. They're clearly too stupid to have anything useful to say on any topic.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2008 00:27
mistic
wow some people of my faith are such idiots...

Christianity FTL :-)
Druid 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2008 11:05
Druid 01
if your following US politics lately you'll know just who hagee is. wtf
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