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Wow, I don't know what to think. On the one hand my natural cynicism makes me say boo to QTEs and pokemon allies, but then again, it could help to add variety, which the last game could have used more of.
Regardless, one thing I do hope they change is offering more incentive to not mash on auto battle for 99 percent of the game. I'm not prepared to make any suggestions on how to do that, but it would be nice if I felt more involved in the battle other than selecting paradigms
Regardless, one thing I do hope they change is offering more incentive to not mash on auto battle for 99 percent of the game. I'm not prepared to make any suggestions on how to do that, but it would be nice if I felt more involved in the battle other than selecting paradigms
From what I have seen from FF XIII I have to agree with llort het as the paradigms stuff looked brutal and the lady hated it.
I refused to play the 1st one even though I own it...
I refused to play the 1st one even though I own it...
I see paradigm shift and auto battle.
Unless their implementation has been improved significantly my interest level is back down to zero.
Unless their implementation has been improved significantly my interest level is back down to zero.
I think you mean Moogle, not Moggle... Has someone been reading too much Harry Potter and is now confusing Moogle with Muggle? :P
It would be cool if this article was proof read ("The trio have arrived to Cocoon, an area that was actually referred to XIII.") and the actual name for moogles were used (not moggle
Final Fatasy XIII-2 Dawn of a New World.
I actually didn't liked much of this mechanic in ToS2, but I still finished and liked the game.
This one will be the same. I liked XIII so I think I will like it this one too.
Thank god the battle system is back but the QTE mania worries me.
I actually didn't liked much of this mechanic in ToS2, but I still finished and liked the game.
This one will be the same. I liked XIII so I think I will like it this one too.
Thank god the battle system is back but the QTE mania worries me.
I don't quite see the problem people have with the auto-battle function...It's actually quite common in JRPGs. I mean, even in the best Final Fantasies you were mashing Attack 90% of the time anyway if your party was set up right...8 Attack Locke anyone?
I seriously want Square-Enix to go away for a few years, and think about what it's done. They can't just give us a tasteful DS remake of Final Fantasies V and VI, or a simple port of VII with friggin' analog control. Nothing but random metaphysical nonsense riddled with arrogant-sounding, latin-tinged proper nouns emerges from their smelly corpse, heading right our way.
Square-Enix is just mixing and matching any spontaneous design element they think up into yet another jacked-up, directionless shit-stain on the game industry.
Square-Enix is just mixing and matching any spontaneous design element they think up into yet another jacked-up, directionless shit-stain on the game industry.
I watched the trailer on PSN, and Serah is told "Lightning is Dead!". What the hell happened that she died? I actually liked XIII regardless of Linear and No Towns... I still liked the game.
What is the problem with AutoBattle? I never got that criticism. One of my least favorite things about older RPGs is having to use the same spell over and over and over on the same enemies. The mecha factory in FF6, for example, where I selected the Lighting spell OVER EIGHTEEN MILLION TIMES.
Final Fantasy can never win. If people aren't complaining that they're repetitious and never improve, they're complaining that the repetitious stuff got taken away.
Final Fantasy can never win. If people aren't complaining that they're repetitious and never improve, they're complaining that the repetitious stuff got taken away.
Well, I guess at the very least they could make it so you can just hold the X button down to keep reselecting the auto-battle command so you don't have to keep pressing it every time.
*puts scotch tape over the X button*
Now all I just have to do is a paradigm shift every few minutes to heal and the game will pretty much beat itself, right?
*puts scotch tape over the X button*
Now all I just have to do is a paradigm shift every few minutes to heal and the game will pretty much beat itself, right?
@pokota
I think in the eyes of some, the autobattle function went too far in the opposite direction so instead of monotonous command entry, you end up having a significantly decreased influence over battles. I think the autobattle system had moments where it worked incredibly well (certain boss battles come to mind) but I disliked how I was actively discouraged or downright punished whenever I wanted to manually choose a spell or action.
As for the sequel, I'll wait until I know more, but Square has really taken a liking to many of the horrible cliches that riddle JRPGs and it doesn't seem like that is going to change anytime soon.
I think in the eyes of some, the autobattle function went too far in the opposite direction so instead of monotonous command entry, you end up having a significantly decreased influence over battles. I think the autobattle system had moments where it worked incredibly well (certain boss battles come to mind) but I disliked how I was actively discouraged or downright punished whenever I wanted to manually choose a spell or action.
As for the sequel, I'll wait until I know more, but Square has really taken a liking to many of the horrible cliches that riddle JRPGs and it doesn't seem like that is going to change anytime soon.
13 was a great game despite its few problems. Really excited for this one as it seems SE is taking fan's criticisms into consideration(Dtoid didn't go into it but according to other sites, towns are back)
@Gamescook
Real ff fans don't want endless remakes. Your comment is such **** that I don't even have a response.
@Gamescook
Real ff fans don't want endless remakes. Your comment is such **** that I don't even have a response.
Anyone that actually finished the game knows that you can't use auto battle the whole time. Only the beginning of it.
The real question I have is this: Will there be more than 2 black people in the entire game world?
But seriously, I was (extremely)hesitantly watching this, and now have my worst fears confirmed. I didn't particularly care to save the world they didn't really flesh out in the first one, so there's pretty much no way I'll care to save it a 2nd time...
But seriously, I was (extremely)hesitantly watching this, and now have my worst fears confirmed. I didn't particularly care to save the world they didn't really flesh out in the first one, so there's pretty much no way I'll care to save it a 2nd time...
When you say "To be released: 2011", does that just mean 2011 in Japan or does it also mean 2011 in North America?
I'm fine waiting until 2012 to play this, but 2011 would still be cool.
I'm fine waiting until 2012 to play this, but 2011 would still be cool.
I wasn't that miffed about the autobattle but more at the fact that the game virtually leads you by the hand and doesn't let you much about anything but until the very end. Hell linear maps, it doesn't get more direct than that. Pretty much felt like a movie were you just lead the characters from point A to B and let them fight or watch a cut scene.
Let's hope it's not like that this time. As evermourn said, I rather Square-Enix didn't crap on my heart again.
Let's hope it's not like that this time. As evermourn said, I rather Square-Enix didn't crap on my heart again.
It sounds like they're making it even better than the first. My biggest problem with it wasn't the linearity, but the storyline, which I didn't care about until the end of Chapter 11. Hopefully that's being fixed.
I'm a little skeptical about the monster recruitment, though. I disliked it in Tales of Symphonia 2, so let's hope they either do it better or bring in other human characters as well.
I'm a little skeptical about the monster recruitment, though. I disliked it in Tales of Symphonia 2, so let's hope they either do it better or bring in other human characters as well.
Also, I hardly ever used auto-battle. In the very beginning of the game when I had a total of three commands, it worked, but after that I found it much more satisfying to manually choose my attacks.
@Pacopaco
I understand what you mean, but we're talking about a flaw inherent to the RPG genre, which is that there will always be a single best attack against non-unique enemies. This is what Square was trying to address somewhat. I know they just put a new coat of paint on the same problem, but it's not any worse for that. There really isn't an actual difference, it's just a different perspective.
I understand what you mean, but we're talking about a flaw inherent to the RPG genre, which is that there will always be a single best attack against non-unique enemies. This is what Square was trying to address somewhat. I know they just put a new coat of paint on the same problem, but it's not any worse for that. There really isn't an actual difference, it's just a different perspective.
so instead of one path we have 2-3 separate corridors and the battle is still as bad but with a gimmick? no thank you.
@pokota
I agree that what you described was one of the problems they were attempting to address but like I said, I think it's the amount of change that this new coat of paint employed with regard to player interaction that a lot of folks find most contentious. If Square could scale things back just a little, they'd end up with a much more enjoyable system in my opinion.
Oh well, you're right in saying that they'll never be able to please everyone no matter what system they end up with. I personally would not mind if they left it as it is if they devoted that time and effort toward fixing their storytelling.
I agree that what you described was one of the problems they were attempting to address but like I said, I think it's the amount of change that this new coat of paint employed with regard to player interaction that a lot of folks find most contentious. If Square could scale things back just a little, they'd end up with a much more enjoyable system in my opinion.
Oh well, you're right in saying that they'll never be able to please everyone no matter what system they end up with. I personally would not mind if they left it as it is if they devoted that time and effort toward fixing their storytelling.
For what its worth, I thought XIII was a great game and I'll never understand the autobattle criticism for 2 reasons. First, in almost all RPGs, the majority of the battles you just attack attack attack over and over till the fight is done. Maybe a spell here or there but mainly just attack. So then what's wrong with autobattle? Secondly, and far more importantly: its F***ING OPTIONAL!!!!! You are not forced to use it so if it bothers you, don't use it!! You are free to select your attack or magic or whatever on every single turn.
Ok rant over. Sorry.
As for this, the pokemon aspect as you call it made my interest in this game plummet. I hate using monsters in battle. Hate it. I hope, like autobattle, that its optional and can have a full party, not just two characters...
Ok rant over. Sorry.
As for this, the pokemon aspect as you call it made my interest in this game plummet. I hate using monsters in battle. Hate it. I hope, like autobattle, that its optional and can have a full party, not just two characters...
I hope they get a really good story in this one. It's been a long time since that has happened in a FF though. If I'm going to be playing a game for 100+ hours it needs a decent narrative.
Hey, I know, let's walk down a narrow, never ending, corridor AGAIN!!! Can we? Yay! Seriously, FF13 was complete and utter crapola. Why the heck would they bother with a second? Have gamers become this dependent on pablum production quality?
Oh? They're takin it way back to letting monsters in the party? That's sone FF Legends shit right there.
Why do I expect nothing from this game? Was it because FF13 was not a FF? Or was it because it was bad?
*snore*
*snore*
So what this game boils down to is -- a confusing, cryptic storyline and a bunch of quick-time events button pressing for gameplay. Horse shit just like the first game. PASS. Thank you for saving me $60 bucks and another broken heart.
Secondly, does Square-Enix actually know how Roman Numerals work?
Secondly, does Square-Enix actually know how Roman Numerals work?
I guess gamers don't like being told that you need to do the same thing over and over again with an auto battle command. Theyd rather think they had oh so much more variety in the earlier games, where they would hit Attack over and over again all by their little selves.
So did square give up on that one that was suppose to comeout on the PS3 versus 13 I think that what it was called.
Hey, how come nobody is complaining about the fact that this is the 103rd final fantasy game? You know the Nintendo "keeps rehashing the same old IPs every year" argument? Does that not apply to IPs like Final Fantasy? I mean seriously, 103 total games? 103? 103!!!
Guess I'm still one of the few people who liked the first, and judging by some of the comments, one of the few who actually played it. This isn't on my day one buy list yet, but I'll likely pick it up. Final Fantasy is always a good time.
Tentatively middling.
I was kinda hoping for a new story centring on Fang and Lightning, but it looks like Square Enix have their plans already, and they're obviously not as keenly interested in the potential for female liberation and empowerment through strong independent heroines with a penchant for badassery, misandry and sexual experimentation.
Awell..
I was kinda hoping for a new story centring on Fang and Lightning, but it looks like Square Enix have their plans already, and they're obviously not as keenly interested in the potential for female liberation and empowerment through strong independent heroines with a penchant for badassery, misandry and sexual experimentation.
Awell..
I'm not even going to complain about the combat system, but more that XIII had the most unlikable cringe worthy characters of the entire series (minus Sazh). I thought VIII was the worst cast, then X's cast came along and blew that out of the water, but during XIII I seriously was hoping that Tidus would come along and smack the ever-living emo shit out of Hope. I will say that I never played XII, so I could be missing out on an even more awful cast, but XIII is the worst I've seen.
Sounds...I don't even know. It's not the same game as XIII, but it doesn't sound much better. I like Final Fantasy for trying new things, but adding a PokeMon element isn't going to save them.
I rather enjoyed the combat system. It moved away from the mind-numbing minutiae of healing and curing status ailments. All XIII's battle system did was move you from a grunt actually executing the command to a field general telling the grunts what to do. Admittedly, you can press the easy button for a gross majority of the game. Hell, then don't even unlock the full potential of the characters until after the game is over. However, there's a depth there that most people didn't bother to explore. The higher marks require some interesting planning where using Auto Battle will get your party swiftly killed.
"I seriously want Square-Enix to go away for a few years, and think about what it's done. They can't just give us a tasteful DS remake of Final Fantasies V and VI, or a simple port of VII with friggin' analog control. Nothing but random metaphysical nonsense riddled with arrogant-sounding, latin-tinged proper nouns emerges from their smelly corpse, heading right our way.
Square-Enix is just mixing and matching any spontaneous design element they think up into yet another jacked-up, directionless shit-stain on the game industry."
qft
Square-Enix is just mixing and matching any spontaneous design element they think up into yet another jacked-up, directionless shit-stain on the game industry."
qft
Monster "catching" sounds more like DQV than Pokemon. Still, hope this is less linear than FFXIII was.
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