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Awesome, extremely happy to hear that. It is great to hear comments from someone who isn't cynical of anything that isn't just a Halo 3 clone. From what I've heard of the story, the campaign sounds like a cool new direction as well. I'm definitely going to get excited for this now.
You start out by saying we have nothing to worry about, and then confirm all the things I was worried about. I really don't like the unlock/upgrade system because it gives people who have been playing longer a huge advantage. One of the things I liked about the previous halo games as well as gears of war is that every game, every round you start with a level playing field. I don't like the idea that I could outplay my opponent, but he still kills me because he has a shield upgrade he got from simply playing the game longer than me.
I have no doubt the multiplayer will still be fun, and good, but without the level playing field it probably won't hold my interest for as long as previous entries in the series did.
I have no doubt the multiplayer will still be fun, and good, but without the level playing field it probably won't hold my interest for as long as previous entries in the series did.
I think enough people are constantly playing Halo that the unlock progression won't be as much of a hindrance. Trust me, I am a subpar BF player at best, but even I can hold my own in Reach's MP. I mean...I have to keep playing to unlock better stuff? What a terrible world. I'm excited for it.
This sounds exactly like what I don't want. I liked leveling playing fields and everyone mad dashing for the power weapons, or flanking people at the power weapons and taking them out. This just sounds like Call of Duty. Dropping power weapons because you get more kills than other because you played longer and therefore have more perks? No thanks.
I am a massive Halo fan, been playing all the games since day one, but there are still two issues that have been present since Halo 2, and have ultimately been the reason I stopped playing all the games.
1. The god damn auto hit melee lunge. Going in for a melee attack is not a risk/reward thing, as along as you are within five feet of someone and looking in their general direction you will automatically hit them. Yes, in Halo: CE you could miss your melee attack.
2. Anti-vehicle weapons. Halo: CE you had to aim and time a rocket to hit a moving vehicle, which creating some intense moments, awesome kills and gave vehicles to change to dodge. Since then it's been auto hit tracking rockets, and instant kill laser, so freaking lame and boring.
I guess I expect the melee lung to be in, which only ruins CQB, which is only half of the game, but if the vehicle combat sucks again, I'm done with this series. I really don't want to be though.
1. The god damn auto hit melee lunge. Going in for a melee attack is not a risk/reward thing, as along as you are within five feet of someone and looking in their general direction you will automatically hit them. Yes, in Halo: CE you could miss your melee attack.
2. Anti-vehicle weapons. Halo: CE you had to aim and time a rocket to hit a moving vehicle, which creating some intense moments, awesome kills and gave vehicles to change to dodge. Since then it's been auto hit tracking rockets, and instant kill laser, so freaking lame and boring.
I guess I expect the melee lung to be in, which only ruins CQB, which is only half of the game, but if the vehicle combat sucks again, I'm done with this series. I really don't want to be though.
I'll just get this for Spartan Ops and single player.
And I hope to God they didn't skimp on the single player content.
And I hope to God they didn't skimp on the single player content.
All this loadout talk makes me want to barf to be honest. One of the great things about Halo was that everyone started on an equal footing, it was a real arnea shooter. I dont understand why everyone feels the need to put the loadout crap in every game, if I wanted to play COD I will play COD. Im staying skeptical about this.
Neat, so Halo will once again be dominated by a single gun.
I notice no armor lock, guess all the terrible children who whined incessantly about it got their wish.
I notice no armor lock, guess all the terrible children who whined incessantly about it got their wish.
To be perfectly honest there are a few things Halo could definitely take from Call of Duty. I fail to see how taking something good from another thing is a bad thing, works for Tarantino movies.
To be quite honest, I'm excited for Halo again for the first time since ... I dunno, maybe Halo 3. And I'm happy Bungie isn't behind it anymore. After Reach I honestly thought Bungie was either too stubborn to accept that Halo needed to change or simply weren't competent enough developers to know how to make it change.
Also ... is 343 going to explain why we're still fighting Covenant?
To be quite honest, I'm excited for Halo again for the first time since ... I dunno, maybe Halo 3. And I'm happy Bungie isn't behind it anymore. After Reach I honestly thought Bungie was either too stubborn to accept that Halo needed to change or simply weren't competent enough developers to know how to make it change.
Also ... is 343 going to explain why we're still fighting Covenant?
"All this loadout talk makes me want to barf to be honest. One of the great things about Halo was that everyone started on an equal footing, it was a real arnea shooter. I dont understand why everyone feels the need to put the loadout crap in every game, if I wanted to play COD I will play COD. Im staying skeptical about this."
This. Hated the loadouts in Reach, basic though they were, so this doesn't really fill me with hope.
Ah well, hopefully the single player will still be a barrel of laughs!
This. Hated the loadouts in Reach, basic though they were, so this doesn't really fill me with hope.
Ah well, hopefully the single player will still be a barrel of laughs!
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Taking ideas from other successful games is certainly not a bad thing. I like that running is standard now. I like that you can use points to customize your armor. I like the executions they introduced in Reach.
But taking so much that your game loses some of its identity is a bad thing. Part of what made Halo special is that you were on a level playing field in every match, and if you wanted a better weapon you had to fight for it because they were all pick up weapons. This type of gameplay brings a competitive edge and fairness that COD is supremely lacking in in all game modes aside from the wager matches in blops. I'm completely for new mechanics, weapons, and powerups. I like leveling up to get character customization options. But when you introduce unlockable weapons and powerups, you ruin the balance of the game, and negate the need to take control of power weapons and items. It creates an atmosphere where time invested is rewarded more than skill acquired, and that's something I don't look for in competitive multiplayer.
Moving the Halo series forward is a good thing, but not if we leave behind what helped make the previous entries special.
Taking ideas from other successful games is certainly not a bad thing. I like that running is standard now. I like that you can use points to customize your armor. I like the executions they introduced in Reach.
But taking so much that your game loses some of its identity is a bad thing. Part of what made Halo special is that you were on a level playing field in every match, and if you wanted a better weapon you had to fight for it because they were all pick up weapons. This type of gameplay brings a competitive edge and fairness that COD is supremely lacking in in all game modes aside from the wager matches in blops. I'm completely for new mechanics, weapons, and powerups. I like leveling up to get character customization options. But when you introduce unlockable weapons and powerups, you ruin the balance of the game, and negate the need to take control of power weapons and items. It creates an atmosphere where time invested is rewarded more than skill acquired, and that's something I don't look for in competitive multiplayer.
Moving the Halo series forward is a good thing, but not if we leave behind what helped make the previous entries special.
@@@Those complaining about the power weapon drops, from reading the article, that only applies to that one mode. So relax.
I'm down, up until they add XP and leveling or whatever is in CoD. I don't mind CoD. But leveling and all that in shooters revolts me.
I'm down, up until they add XP and leveling or whatever is in CoD. I don't mind CoD. But leveling and all that in shooters revolts me.
After seeing the footage from E3, hell, even listening to the score, my hype level has reached maximum overload. This game just looks killer. It makes everything Bungie's done since 2 look terrible, and I'm happy that a new developer is able to breath new life into the series.
feels like a lot of jumping to conclusions in the comments.
Just because you unlock something later does not necessarily mean that it's automatically better. Just different. I can see where the overreactions are coming from, but since balance is such a big part of halo, I don't think they'd chuck it out the window.Plus, the playstyle described only seemed to exist in that game type (like TurboKill said), and not to hold over into a persistent XP sort of thing. So, playing longer does not necessarily mean you get cooler stuff.
Just because you unlock something later does not necessarily mean that it's automatically better. Just different. I can see where the overreactions are coming from, but since balance is such a big part of halo, I don't think they'd chuck it out the window.Plus, the playstyle described only seemed to exist in that game type (like TurboKill said), and not to hold over into a persistent XP sort of thing. So, playing longer does not necessarily mean you get cooler stuff.
feels like a lot of jumping to conclusions in the comments.
Just because you unlock something later does not necessarily mean that it's automatically better. Just different. I can see where the overreactions are coming from, but since balance is such a big part of halo, I don't think they'd chuck it out the window.Plus, the playstyle described only seemed to exist in that game type (like TurboKill said), and not to hold over into a persistent XP sort of thing. So, playing longer does not necessarily mean you get cooler stuff.
Just because you unlock something later does not necessarily mean that it's automatically better. Just different. I can see where the overreactions are coming from, but since balance is such a big part of halo, I don't think they'd chuck it out the window.Plus, the playstyle described only seemed to exist in that game type (like TurboKill said), and not to hold over into a persistent XP sort of thing. So, playing longer does not necessarily mean you get cooler stuff.
Finally, something fresh and new coming to Halo. Bungie failed with Halo 3 and Reach IMO. They tried to change, but they left so much of the groundwork intact that the additions felt out of place. It looks like 343 is rethinking multiplayer. They're not trying to be purists in one sense, but then throwing in some bullshit feature that no one wants the next second (ie: equipment & armor abilities) without touching the framework of "Halo". Or just fucking with the weapons in ways no one wanted (ie:spread and the DMR).
I really haven't been this excited about a Halo game since the months leading up to Halo 3, when I would play Halo 2 almost every night. By the time ODST came out, I had already sold Halo 3 months ago. And in less than a year I sold the Halo 3 Mythic Disc. I barely got anywhere in Reach multiplayer, and the campaign really disappointed me. Plus Firefight just couldn't stand up to Horde, Zombies, or Spec Ops Survival.
Halo is back. Fuck yes.
I really haven't been this excited about a Halo game since the months leading up to Halo 3, when I would play Halo 2 almost every night. By the time ODST came out, I had already sold Halo 3 months ago. And in less than a year I sold the Halo 3 Mythic Disc. I barely got anywhere in Reach multiplayer, and the campaign really disappointed me. Plus Firefight just couldn't stand up to Horde, Zombies, or Spec Ops Survival.
Halo is back. Fuck yes.
Id LIKE to hope they did some good progressive changes to the gameplay in multi player and campaign but from what ive seen monkeys could have designed this halo, they have failed to stray far from their to their snug original gameplay and game atmosphere which has kept them low on the charts and like an old sitcom with the same gay ass jokes, either step it up or stop. but still i could be wrong about this one, we will see..
I love how people think all the Halo games had a level playing field. Those who play longer learn power weapon drops and thus get them BEFORE people start the real fighting. Not to mention how more time equals more skill and thus even with a level playing field and the Similar Skill search checkbox one can have their ass handed to them with any weapon, particularly the DMR or Sniper. If you have played the Halo:Reach level Spire, then you know how bad it is when someone gets both the Fuel Rod Cannon and the Rocket launcher due to their very close proximity or even worse, the sniper rifle.
It has been clearly stated that if you want to use a weapon you haven't unlocked yet, take it from a dead body just like everything else in the previous games. The weapons are already balanced against each other so how does a new weapon guarantee death for those who have yet to unlock it?
The other Halo games never did a very good job of portraying the awesomeness of powered armor suits but Halo 4 might just do it
Also, Samus wins against Chief every time, no contest.
It has been clearly stated that if you want to use a weapon you haven't unlocked yet, take it from a dead body just like everything else in the previous games. The weapons are already balanced against each other so how does a new weapon guarantee death for those who have yet to unlock it?
The other Halo games never did a very good job of portraying the awesomeness of powered armor suits but Halo 4 might just do it
Also, Samus wins against Chief every time, no contest.
I will still play it but this concernes me. One good thing about sprint being an armor ability was that if you wanted sprint, you couldnt also have active camo or armor lock. This balanced itself quite well, as I cant active camo in a corner then run and assassinate someone as they come through a door. And since most people are impatient almost everyone choses sprint on large maps. The only other thing is that sheild booster...that is an unfair advantage, reminds me of BFBC2's magnum ammo, if you dont use it you lose in a straight up gun fight, so almost everyone uses it, it would be more efficient to just take it away and have equal sheilds.
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