Hehe cause she's a woman, with still awesome-sized boobs, and she moans a lot, right?
.... That IS what you mean, right??
Make Lara more like this lady here and then we'll talk.
I'm getting tired of the word "gritty" though. Most over used word of the fucking week.
Why did they choose to simply show the moments of her being vulnerable.
also: i hate laras new voice. i can see all those high pitched welps really pissing me off.
Now they've gone the other direction and people have sand in their vaginas about it because it's disturbing. It's a reboot, so I guess if they're wanting to get away from all the sexualised Lara images as seen above, putting their character through shit in a disturbing way to make her a more powerful female character in the future isn't a big deal.
Actual LOLZ at the hippies getting butthurt over an attempted rape scene. Get over yourselves and get hugging those trees and making out with some bark, mofos.
YOU ASKED FOR THIS, GAMERS!!!
It seems like it was only yesterday I was playing Tomb Raider 3 on my PSone, and desperately trying to make the "nude Lara" cheat work. (it never did)
And now all these years later Lara is a vulnerable young woman and bad ass in the making. Can't wait to play this game, it's my most anticipated game along with the two Ellen Page games.
i don't even know how to respond to that. i don't like that a franchise has totally changed the character of its protagonist, and that makes me uncomfortable with women?
"if longtime fans cant deal with issues like sexual assault and violence, you have no business gaming"
again, WTF? all gamers are now required to deal with depictions of rape and violence? have you ever been raped? how do you think this scene would have made a victim of sexual assault feel when they came into the game with expectations of a fun platformer starring an upbeat, confident woman?
times really have changed. it's no longer good enough that the intentionally sexualised Lara Croft actually went on to be quite an inspirational character that made both gamers and the games industry more open to female protagonists, no, now she has to shoot a rapist in the face. i literally can't think of anything less subtle.
All I want to know, is this game fun to play? Is it fun to shoot shit with arrows and raid tombs and stuff?
I'm so over people blubbering about Lara Croft one way or the other.
meh, I'm sure a lot of ppl will enjoy this.
Also, If we're going to critisize games for this stuff, shoudln't we critisize the moves and tv shows as well?
I know it's really soon to be jumping to these conclusions, but based on what they're focusing on thus far, they aren't exactly leaving much room for other speculations.
@Tristrix because they only make the game fun to play once, and every other playthrough is either a chore or just boring. It feels constrictive to what the player is allowed to do to accomplish something. I mean, all games are scripted to some extent sure, but this one feels like one path, no choice, no variance type of game and I don't think those are any fun. At least, that's what it's like for me.
I agree with everything you've said, my comment was more about how peoples expectations of a product can dictate their reaction to it. I don't think its ridiculous for people to buy a "Tomb Raider" game and to expect the same tropes that the series is famous for to be present. It's not something I would've raised if it wasn't for AriesSirens assertion that if you don't support depictions of rape and violence you shouldn't be playing games, which is, of course, ridiculous.
I will say though that rape is a subject that should be handled carefully. To me if there's anything worse than seeing a rape scene in a film be used for shock value and knowing somewhere it made someone relive what's often the worst moment of their life, its seeing someone real relive it in front of your eyes. I'd hate to know how it feels first hand.
PS. I always forget to say - this was a well written and informative write up, thank you!
These all seem like very arbitrary, silly metrics to me. Since when do we discard games based on shit like this? It's fun or it isn't fun, ya know?
"It feels constrictive to what the player is allowed to do to accomplish something. I mean, all games are scripted to some extent sure, but this one feels like one path, no choice, no variance type of game and I don't think those are any fun."
Where is the fun in an adventure if it's not your own? It's not so much as being able to replay them,(That was a bad, half-minded statement.) but about how you're able to play them. I don't think the current presentation/gameplay segments shown will make for a game that I'd be interested in.
I get what you're saying about it being either fun or not, and if you want to make things that simple. No, I don't think this game is going to be very fun.
"These all seem like very arbitrary, silly metrics to me."
I'm sorry you feel that way?

This last week in particular.

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