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I don't understand either Jim, I love Gears campaign and that is definitely the thing I'm most looking forward to in Gears 3
Whoa, this is the first I've heard about parts of the campaign being played out from different perspectives (I normally watch E3 videos on mute at work, so it's possible I just missed it). Fucking awesome!
I love the Gears series, ESPECIALLY for its campaign. I can't wait to try it out!
I love the Gears series, ESPECIALLY for its campaign. I can't wait to try it out!
I'm not sure the story is being written off by gamers so much as that the hype isn't being swallowed. I distinctly recall some statement being made, I think by CliffyB himself, extolling the boundless virtues of the Gears of War story. Don't get me wrong, the story isn't BAD, it's just not the work of art the developers seem to think it is. I mean lets face it... it's space marines. Is there anything more video game cliche than that?
I attempted to google cliffy's remarks to back up what I'm saying with a link but I'm not having any luck. I'm sure most of you guys will recall what I'm talking about though.
I attempted to google cliffy's remarks to back up what I'm saying with a link but I'm not having any luck. I'm sure most of you guys will recall what I'm talking about though.
Yeah but I like Campaign because I can play it with a buddy, not because I'm riveted to my seat by Marcus & Dom's personal journeys. Can't the fact that I find the gameplay FUN be enough?
Woah there Cliffy, you have to earn the right to compare your stuff to Pulp Fiction.
Honestly, I don't really enjoy Gears' Multiplayer. i enjoyed the campaign in the first two though. That said, I'm not really interested in GoW3 at all. If I do play it, it will only be so I can finish what I started.
Honestly, I don't really enjoy Gears' Multiplayer. i enjoyed the campaign in the first two though. That said, I'm not really interested in GoW3 at all. If I do play it, it will only be so I can finish what I started.
A shooter with a story is like a prostitute with a nice personality...fine and dandy, but not what most people are after...I love a great story, that's why I play rpg's...if a shooter has it, cool, but I usually pick up a shooter to shoot things
What I don't get is people love gears yet complain about the singleplayer AND the multiplayer. What is left? does everyone just play it for horde mode?
Looking forward to all 4 game modes in this myself. I'm clearly en exemplary human being.
Looking forward to all 4 game modes in this myself. I'm clearly en exemplary human being.
actually im only interested in the campaign, i dont care for MP on XBOX. (having to pay extra has something to do with it)
In one of my stupid videos, I talk about how the Gears books (amongst other video game books) made me actually give a shut about the campaign storyline. Tie in books are something more game companies should do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZMvKZKe5ZU&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZMvKZKe5ZU&sns=em
People look down on the narrative because it sucks. That doesn't mean the gameplay is bad or the campaign is unfun. The story they tell isn't a story people give a shit about; it's not deep or inventive or emotional or any of those other buzzwords people use to say "good". There's no connection to the characters, therefore no investment in how they got into the situation. This makes the campaign just a string of gunfight after gunfight (again, not necessarily a bad thing).
@ Tristrix
Couldn't have said it better myself. I fucking love the campaign, I can't emphasize that enough. However, the story is at-best okay. It's nothing against Gears, Epic, etc. It's just that when you live in a world of BioShock & Half-Life, it's hard to consider Gears among the elite. I would even say that Halo has a much better plot that Gears does, despite what the Dtoid community thinks about that franchise.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I fucking love the campaign, I can't emphasize that enough. However, the story is at-best okay. It's nothing against Gears, Epic, etc. It's just that when you live in a world of BioShock & Half-Life, it's hard to consider Gears among the elite. I would even say that Halo has a much better plot that Gears does, despite what the Dtoid community thinks about that franchise.
Possibly the best story about overly-muscled space hunchbacks hiding behind a series of chest-high walls. How dare anyone denigrate his fine writing.
I'm a Sony fanboy....but Gears has one of my favorite stories this generation. It's presented as well, or better than plenty of action films I've seen the last several years. It's as deep as it needs to be.
I always thought that's why people bought Gears of War to begin with. For the campaign first, and the multiplayer second. The single player is easily the main draw for me.
@garethxxgod, TheDirtyHobo, Attackbaby
Exactly.
I think most people who have played the games (I've played through both campaigns), enjoy the campaigns quite a bit. However, just because I had a lot of fun running co-op with my brother doesn't mean that the narrative being presented is any good. I mean, maybe I was playing it wrong, but I don't even remember who "Cole" is beyond being one of the NPC's (and I'm usually someone who REALLY gets into story-lines in games).
Exactly.
I think most people who have played the games (I've played through both campaigns), enjoy the campaigns quite a bit. However, just because I had a lot of fun running co-op with my brother doesn't mean that the narrative being presented is any good. I mean, maybe I was playing it wrong, but I don't even remember who "Cole" is beyond being one of the NPC's (and I'm usually someone who REALLY gets into story-lines in games).
Gears 1 did a nice job of putting a bunch of grunts into a series of situations which got gradually worse and worse, upping the ante with each level just like any decent action game should.
Gears 2 was hyped from the start to have a superior story written by somebody who had done a couple of episodes of BSG and what we got were giant worms, maria and conveniently placed waist high scenery. Then the whole game went for the bigger more badass kind of mentality which in the end was just a whole bunch of scenes where the player was confined to a moving platform and asked to shoot at things.
Gears 2 was hyped from the start to have a superior story written by somebody who had done a couple of episodes of BSG and what we got were giant worms, maria and conveniently placed waist high scenery. Then the whole game went for the bigger more badass kind of mentality which in the end was just a whole bunch of scenes where the player was confined to a moving platform and asked to shoot at things.
He must not remember Gears 2. lol. Both campaigns were great (definitely what attracts me to the series), but there was a lot of crazy shit introduced in Gears 2 and not a fucking thing was resolved. That was my only complaint. If you're gonna present ten questions, have the heart enough to at least answer five of them. Otherwise all your set ups lead to nothing but fucking let downs by the time the credits roll.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about fucking Maria. If Dom has to do any more mercy killing I hope he saves a bullet for me. That was the weakest shit I've ever seen. It was a good story point, sure, but it played out horribly.
CliffyB is the guy who compared the shapes Sony uses on their buttons to Kanji.
I still can't get my head around that. No matter what else he ever says, no matter how intelligent or witty, I'll always remember him for thinking of X's and O's as another language.
I swear to god, that's like one of the paradoxes from Portal 2 for me. It makes my brain scream and give up.
I still can't get my head around that. No matter what else he ever says, no matter how intelligent or witty, I'll always remember him for thinking of X's and O's as another language.
I swear to god, that's like one of the paradoxes from Portal 2 for me. It makes my brain scream and give up.
I really enjoy the Gears of War's stories. Like Gears 1 and 2 before it, Gears of war 3 main draws for me is the story. I'm much more excited about Adam Fenix than anything they can do with Multiplayer.
I don't think much of the narrative in the Gears games, I enjoy them I guess, but there campaigns are fun as hell, also the different perspective thing sounds pretty cool
@PrivateIronTFU
I know, right? I actually lost a friend because I spoiled a part of Gears of War 2 for him. Namely, about Carmine B.
I know, right? I actually lost a friend because I spoiled a part of Gears of War 2 for him. Namely, about Carmine B.
The campaign is the only reason I play Gears. I never even played a single match of Gears 1 multiplayer, and one match was enough for Gears 2.
Actually I've never played the multiplayer before on either Gears games and I must have played them through like 5 times each atleast. It was never really my thing, on the other hand I really loved the single-player, I mean aslong as you don't take it too seriously it's really, really good fun.
They are fun campaigns with some "oh shit!" moments and some epic set pieces. That's just fine for me. Plus I'd play a baking sim if Cole Train was in it.
I love the Gears story personally. I'm in the process of finishing the 3rd book. They are all awesome and written by Karen Traviss. And if you've read her Gears books she writes in a Pulp Fiction style of going back and forth between storylines. I've heard she helped write the story for Gears 3 so this going back and forth in time doesn't surprise me.
I think the storyline kicks ass imho. I could care less about the people who don't like it. Go play something else then...At least the Gears story is more understandable then the Halo & Metal Gear storylines (which both get praised alot) and both confuse the ever loving shit out of me.
I think the storyline kicks ass imho. I could care less about the people who don't like it. Go play something else then...At least the Gears story is more understandable then the Halo & Metal Gear storylines (which both get praised alot) and both confuse the ever loving shit out of me.
@brokeotaku:
Neither is a couple of teenagers that just want to bang...oh wait, that was Romeo and Juliet. See I can go to logical extremes too.
Neither is a couple of teenagers that just want to bang...oh wait, that was Romeo and Juliet. See I can go to logical extremes too.
Look, it's not Ulysses, but it's competent enough. The payoff with Dom's wife in part 2 was emotional, and the storyline took steps forward in the sequel. I'm one of the odd people that tend to enjoy the campaigns of most games more than the multiplayer, even with first person shooters, and Gears is fine.
I play gears primarily for the campaign, the first games multiplayer was great.... match making ruined it imo in the second game. The campaign on the other hand is something I have played multiple times.
Gears 1, 360 2x
Gears 1, PC(for extra chapter) 1x
Gears 2, 360 2x
Am going to replay Gears 1 PC and Gears 2 before the 3rd is released.
Gears 1, 360 2x
Gears 1, PC(for extra chapter) 1x
Gears 2, 360 2x
Am going to replay Gears 1 PC and Gears 2 before the 3rd is released.
I partially enjoy your games Cliffy, but your games are not that fucking good. Probably because it's ridiculously over the top and still somehow tries to take itself seriously.
Back to the original point here, don't ever try to compare anything you create to Pulp Fiction.
Back to the original point here, don't ever try to compare anything you create to Pulp Fiction.
Maybe for the first Gears. But me and the friends of mine who played both of the first two Gears games together pretty much agree that Gears 2 had a really good story, if only a limited one.
Why? Well, unlike Gears 1, the characters all had a distinctive personality and they, you know, showed emotion. I expect nothing less from this new installment.
Why? Well, unlike Gears 1, the characters all had a distinctive personality and they, you know, showed emotion. I expect nothing less from this new installment.
Then don't fucking make amazing trailers then. I know they're meat heads but god damn it, you were able to pull such complex feelings off with these trailers and you made Victor Hoffman a god damn sentimental character in the books which isn't apparent at all in the video games. The themes are their but the last two games' execution didn't really do a good enough job of that. That is why we "disown" the story. I still think Gears is the perfect opportunity to showcase that bald space marine caritctures can become genuine work of art but you guys need to do better on this sequel.
I've only played the first Gears story mode, and I don't remember anything interesting about it. Then again, everyone seems to think the Modern Warfare series has an amazing story and I pretty much had no idea what was going on in that game either. So maybe I just missed where the story was being told.
I love the ridiculous level of homo-eroticism between Dom and Marcus. To me it' the multiplayer that should be completely ignored.
Gears characters aren't space marines because they don't go into god damn space. Get it right people.
I don't play Gears to be enlightened, nor do I kid myself that the story is anything more cerebral than a Van Damme movie. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Gears is about the only only game other than teh masses of shmups on the system that make me want to bit the bullet and by an Xbox to complete my set of systems.
Sorry but Gears story isn't exactly riveting. First game is shoot stuff and get the resonator. Second game Dom cries about his wife and then a bunch of stuff (Locust queen, Lambent, Marcus' daddy) is introduced but not explained/resolved. In addition the plot is preposterous. Win the war via drowning the enemy? That's supposed to be better than the bomb from the first game? Also, why did Tai off himself? He was only missing for like 2 hours.
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