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No, yeah, even as a bit of a Nintendo fanboy, this game sounds like shite and has me worried for future Wii U releases.
Also, it has a terrible name.
Also, it has a terrible name.
I'll just buy the GOTY on 360 when this comes out. Why no release date for wii u? ubisoft said something about Nov release, that is pretty close and Ninty didn't even bother with a date or line up.
This is dumb. Its the same game from last year but with an awkward controller.
Why would anyone buy this?
Why would anyone buy this?
Nah, the Arkham games always looked terrible thanks to bad ate direction. So it still looks terrible on Wii U, too.
Maybe if Rocksteady stepped away from the bondage gear it would look better.
Maybe if Rocksteady stepped away from the bondage gear it would look better.
I suppose it might be alright if you don't have a XBOX360 or a PS3 but have a Wii U, but that seems like it'd be a pretty small segment to me...
I don't think the controller is inherently awkward, but I think it's silly to shoehorn it into a game that really doesn't need it.
I don't think the controller is inherently awkward, but I think it's silly to shoehorn it into a game that really doesn't need it.
I turned on the sixaxis controls for a few minutes on Arkham City, but I'd much prefer a stick than any gyroscope, but at least it's still an option in this mode. Sonar mode sounds like a new means to the same end, as you could detonate specific explosive gels in any order as long as you were looking directly at the desired spray. I think I heard him say it was only $40, so I would definitely recommend it to anyone who missed out on it the first time around, simply because it sounds like the same gameplay is retained despite/with the new 'features', as well as the DLC.
What gets me, though... Why Sony isn't pushing the Vita as a means to output PS3 audio/video into your hands? Remote Play could have taken out so much wind from Nintendo's 'play the game without needing the TV' feature. For anyone that owns a PS3, purchasing a Vita to complement the system might be a cheaper solution, but we won't know that until they announce the WiiU price.
What gets me, though... Why Sony isn't pushing the Vita as a means to output PS3 audio/video into your hands? Remote Play could have taken out so much wind from Nintendo's 'play the game without needing the TV' feature. For anyone that owns a PS3, purchasing a Vita to complement the system might be a cheaper solution, but we won't know that until they announce the WiiU price.
this and mass effect 3 were the worst WiiU announcements... they will gimmick the hell of that controller
Hells with that giant armor.
And really this release is pointless, a lot of the Wii u stuff is, by the time they actually come out, most people will already played them on other consoles or the PC.
The fact that Ninja Gaiden 3 was on that trailer was hilarious, just feels like trying to pander to the crowd that wants M rated games.
And really this release is pointless, a lot of the Wii u stuff is, by the time they actually come out, most people will already played them on other consoles or the PC.
The fact that Ninja Gaiden 3 was on that trailer was hilarious, just feels like trying to pander to the crowd that wants M rated games.
It would have been awesome to Falcon Punch the Joker in the face, but, instead, it feels like we got Falcon Punched in the face. Why did Nintendo even show this during their press conference? Last year, they claimed that the Wii U was a console for "U", referring to the PS3/360 owners who the Wii didn't appeal to. This was a perfect opportunity for them to prove that by showing games like Assassin's Creed 3 or Darksiders 2 and making the case for why they'll be better on the Wii U. Instead, they use that time to show a game that everyone with a PS3 or 360 has already played, and show off that they've added the same gimmicky motion controls that caused those people to shy away from the Wii. It's like offering to set you up with your ex-girlfriend, but now she has AIDS. What were they thinking?
Did they say what resolution it was running at? I was expecting the Wii U to at least manage 1080p and somewhat *better* textures, ie be a bit closer to the PC version.
check out my Batman AC demo from E3 2012. It's not as bad as you think. The textures?graphics were ugly 'cause it's still in developement (port in progress) for Wii U.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Dz4Lfpivg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Dz4Lfpivg
I think the textures and stuff looked worse because you were too close to the screen. or maybe the tv wasn't calibrated right.
I was interested to see what Arkham City had that the PS360 versions didn't. Doesn't seem like much, admittedly. :\ I suppose for people who don't have it already, they can get it on Wii U. As for me, I wasn't sure whether to get it on Wii U or get PS3, but this seems to justify me getting it sooner than later.
@ TSP
its definitely a matter of opinion but in mine AC is one of the best looking games I own - on PC.
I can't say anything here is surprising, I think we all knew it was a bad idea. In the long run though, if the Wii U has these capabilities AND competitive hardware then it can only be a strength. The shovelware on Wii was only really viable because so much of the audience didn't know any better. This gen will probably be different.
its definitely a matter of opinion but in mine AC is one of the best looking games I own - on PC.
I can't say anything here is surprising, I think we all knew it was a bad idea. In the long run though, if the Wii U has these capabilities AND competitive hardware then it can only be a strength. The shovelware on Wii was only really viable because so much of the audience didn't know any better. This gen will probably be different.
@Nathaniel - Remote Play hardly works for Vita and PS3 and most PS3 games can't have touch functionality retroactively anyway.
I wouldn't promote something that doesn't work in a bid to steal some thunder. They already tried that before the Vita was out and many folks aren't happy what they hyped does not work.
I wouldn't promote something that doesn't work in a bid to steal some thunder. They already tried that before the Vita was out and many folks aren't happy what they hyped does not work.
As long as they don't force the touch screen controls and minigames on us. It is a port so it's likely they will let players use traditional controls, but as soon as games start forcing dumb little touch screen minigames and start using buzzwords like "immersive" then you can pretty safely assume thar is the weakest port
@Jinx
The Wii U does support 1080p. That doesn't mean it's a good port, though. I was initially very excited for this, but it looks like a rush job.
The Wii U does support 1080p. That doesn't mean it's a good port, though. I was initially very excited for this, but it looks like a rush job.
I have a feeling many of Wii-U's capabilities will be underused or used poorly by third-party. Kind of like PS3's sixaxis, Xbox's Kinect, Wii's motionplus, or anything that involves moving while you play. Of course, such is the nature of multiplats. Hopefully there will be some exclusives that deliver on all fronts.
@ TSP
its definitely a matter of opinion but in mine AC is one of the best looking games I own - on PC.
I can't say anything here is surprising, I think we all knew it was a bad idea. In the long run though, if the Wii U has these capabilities AND competitive hardware then it can only be a strength. The shovelware on Wii was only really viable because so much of the audience didn't know any better. This gen will probably be different.
its definitely a matter of opinion but in mine AC is one of the best looking games I own - on PC.
I can't say anything here is surprising, I think we all knew it was a bad idea. In the long run though, if the Wii U has these capabilities AND competitive hardware then it can only be a strength. The shovelware on Wii was only really viable because so much of the audience didn't know any better. This gen will probably be different.
I wasn't so bothered with the gimmicky controller method, first thing I said though when seeing it was "Oh deary me". It did really look awful.
Good article, I hope this is not a case of history repeating itself.
Good article, I hope this is not a case of history repeating itself.
It is surprising that they try to make gimmicks for the touch screen when having the ability to just play the game on the screen instead of the TV would be a lot more appealing to most people.
Why would any one buy this full price(59.99)? Especially, when the PS3, Xbox and PC versions will likely be under 20 dollars, when the game finally launches.
If you look up 'Wii' in the dictionary it actually means 'shitty ports.'
I didn't read that, but I know a guy with a dictionary.
I didn't read that, but I know a guy with a dictionary.
Why would they even bother porting this? They should have just pulled a shiny new game out of their ass! It's not like new games take time to develop or anything. If they don't have a new game they should just stop trying making money until they have a brand new game.
...or maybe they could sell a game that will take very little time to port and throw in a few new features for people that haven't played it yet on the Wii U. Maybe if that sells alright they could pull a game out of their asses afterwords?
...or maybe they could sell a game that will take very little time to port and throw in a few new features for people that haven't played it yet on the Wii U. Maybe if that sells alright they could pull a game out of their asses afterwords?
@pedrovay:
The PS3 and 360 "support" 1080p, but they struggle to run most games at even 720p. What I'm wondering is whether the Wii U has enough RAM and power for 1080p to be the default resolution for most titles.
Am I the only one who sort of cringes every time they hear that a game for the Wii, Wii U, etc will have some sort of "special" (gimmick) controls? When I saw that Arkham City would make use of the special controller on the Wii U my reaction was "ugh, I don't want to deal with that sh*t, why couldn't they just port it with better graphics?" The stuff Nintendo is pushing is a complete turnoff to me. Even if there are some great AAA titles, I'll be buying them in spite of them being on the Wii U.
The PS3 and 360 "support" 1080p, but they struggle to run most games at even 720p. What I'm wondering is whether the Wii U has enough RAM and power for 1080p to be the default resolution for most titles.
Am I the only one who sort of cringes every time they hear that a game for the Wii, Wii U, etc will have some sort of "special" (gimmick) controls? When I saw that Arkham City would make use of the special controller on the Wii U my reaction was "ugh, I don't want to deal with that sh*t, why couldn't they just port it with better graphics?" The stuff Nintendo is pushing is a complete turnoff to me. Even if there are some great AAA titles, I'll be buying them in spite of them being on the Wii U.
You see, that's what I like about you Holmes. You eat, sleep, breathe Nintendo, yet still are able to identify bullshit when you see it.
In regards to the graphics of B:AC, my guess is that the Wii U hardware is more powerful than the PS3, if only slightly. Probably to the same degree that the Wii is more powerful than the Original Xbox. That's the general impression we've been getting from actual developers as of late, even if it's contrary to some of the so called leaks.
But since this is a port instead of a lead platform game, and this is still first generation software, games may not be up to par graphically with systems that developers have had 6 or 7 years to work on. At the very least, the internals seems to be a little more standardized relative to PCs and the 360/PS3 in general (much more so than the Wii or 3DS), so this shouldn't last long. Especially since this its multi-core Power PC based like the 360 is.
But yea. This all means jack shit if the software is rehashed.
But since this is a port instead of a lead platform game, and this is still first generation software, games may not be up to par graphically with systems that developers have had 6 or 7 years to work on. At the very least, the internals seems to be a little more standardized relative to PCs and the 360/PS3 in general (much more so than the Wii or 3DS), so this shouldn't last long. Especially since this its multi-core Power PC based like the 360 is.
But yea. This all means jack shit if the software is rehashed.
@Jinx 01: I'm totally with you on the cringing-part. Seriously, for the most part it's the Wii all over again. An improved Wii, yes, but a Wii nonetheless in that most stuff still seems shoehorned in. I hate it and I want it to go away. This isn't the future of gaming, this is the future of gimmickry.
eh, I'll skip it.
let's just keep this in mind: did 360 or PS3 have great launch titles? nope. Perfect Dark sucked and don't even get me started on fucking Lair (that WAS a launch game, right?).
@Nathaniel
Doesn't Sony require you to have two copies of the same game for their feature? or am I thinking of something else? that's what they're doing with Sly 4.
let's just keep this in mind: did 360 or PS3 have great launch titles? nope. Perfect Dark sucked and don't even get me started on fucking Lair (that WAS a launch game, right?).
@Nathaniel
Doesn't Sony require you to have two copies of the same game for their feature? or am I thinking of something else? that's what they're doing with Sly 4.
Moar like Arkham Shitty. I already played the PC version which graphically looked flawless, the game itself was just okay though kinda boring actually, so I'm not going to play it again on Wii U.
With the WiiU specs its obvious why it needed uglier textures. Its just Nintendo, yet again, putting cheap, old, hardware in their consoles, to save as much money as possible.
@Kyle MacNeil
No, it's just a bad porting job. The WiiU has been stated to be as powerful as the PS3 at the very least. More are saying it's more powerful, if only just a bit. Hell, no one knows the specifics of the hardware(the specs released were still vague on RAM and GPU), so you can't even state how "cheap" the stuff is. In summation: Stop talking about things you do not know. It would be wise to wait until more info about it is released
No, it's just a bad porting job. The WiiU has been stated to be as powerful as the PS3 at the very least. More are saying it's more powerful, if only just a bit. Hell, no one knows the specifics of the hardware(the specs released were still vague on RAM and GPU), so you can't even state how "cheap" the stuff is. In summation: Stop talking about things you do not know. It would be wise to wait until more info about it is released
Honestly, Gyroscope control is normally a win for me in any game, because I'm so much more accurate for me, and those touch screen minigames were just analog stick minigames before, so honestly, I don't really see the problem. However, I do understand that that's not everybody's thing. I wish they added a mode that let you play the game like the original. Muddy textures aren't a good sign at all though.
"@Nathaniel - Remote Play hardly works for Vita and PS3 and most PS3 games can't have touch functionality retroactively anyway. "
It works perfectly, and they can have it retroactively added just as easy as Move.
Easier, considering hackers were able to enable it in every game by changing a value in an XML file
It works perfectly, and they can have it retroactively added just as easy as Move.
Easier, considering hackers were able to enable it in every game by changing a value in an XML file
Sorry, Holmes but I think the this sentence sums up whats wrong with the WiiU;
"Personally, all I was hoping for out of Armored Edition was the ability to play the game on controller screen (so I won't need to monopolize the family TV when replaying it)"
I am hardly 'Mr Moneybags', but wouldnt it make more sense to buy a second TV rather than fork out for whole other console to play Arkham city?
Seems like Nintendo is engineering a solution to a problem that doesnt exist? TVs are not that expensive, surely living space is not that much of an issue?
"Personally, all I was hoping for out of Armored Edition was the ability to play the game on controller screen (so I won't need to monopolize the family TV when replaying it)"
I am hardly 'Mr Moneybags', but wouldnt it make more sense to buy a second TV rather than fork out for whole other console to play Arkham city?
Seems like Nintendo is engineering a solution to a problem that doesnt exist? TVs are not that expensive, surely living space is not that much of an issue?
I just wanna be able to play the fuckin game on the fuckin controller. They better not overlook something so simple.
"...the start of that happening all over again on the Wii U."
Design a gimmick console. Received gimmick games.
Colour me "suprised".
Design a gimmick console. Received gimmick games.
Colour me "suprised".
You mean like how ninja gaiden sigma plus and golden abyss had crap gimmicky touch-controls on Vita? Or calling your plays on Madden through smart glass on a tablet microsoft expects you already own?
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