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Dale writes:"Hi, I'm going to move my console with the disc spinning!"
This is not an Xbox fault, this is YOUR fault. You wouldn't open a washing machine when it was spinning, would you?
This is not an Xbox fault, this is YOUR fault. You wouldn't open a washing machine when it was spinning, would you?
Also I'm pretty sure I can pick up my PS3 while it's running a game and the game will be usable later on.
The reason this is ridiculous is even if it's moved by accident or enough to hear the death scratches you know you'll never be able to play that game again. Well unless Caspulex's solution works but still its pretty fucking stupid and that's why people are complaining.
The reason this is ridiculous is even if it's moved by accident or enough to hear the death scratches you know you'll never be able to play that game again. Well unless Caspulex's solution works but still its pretty fucking stupid and that's why people are complaining.
@DeusPayne
Of they can't be held accountable. Only the Wii and Ps3 are allowed to bend physics! God forbid anyone to expect the 360 to behave at all like its competitors.
Of they can't be held accountable. Only the Wii and Ps3 are allowed to bend physics! God forbid anyone to expect the 360 to behave at all like its competitors.
"Clearly Microsoft is at fault for not creating their own laws of physics to prevent such a situation from occurring."
Well Microsoft could have put a self-loading drive in it, like the Wii, and PS3 has had for almost 4 years now. You never hear anyone complaining about scratched disc on the other two consoles, so yes Microsoft could have prevented it, if they really wanted to.
Well Microsoft could have put a self-loading drive in it, like the Wii, and PS3 has had for almost 4 years now. You never hear anyone complaining about scratched disc on the other two consoles, so yes Microsoft could have prevented it, if they really wanted to.
Their own laws of physics? My PC tower doesn't seem to have such an issue, nor does my pse, nor does my Wii. Of course you shouldn't move it around, but what about issues that another poster brought up? Namely, being a little too wild in close proximity to it and jarring it without even touching it. Bye bye disc. And with the Kinect, this is supposed to be a common scenario, what with people jumping all around.
Regardless of whether or not you should be moving the damn thing, that doesn't excuse Microsoft's failure to fix their shit.
Regardless of whether or not you should be moving the damn thing, that doesn't excuse Microsoft's failure to fix their shit.
@ Crunshii
You're comparing something that ISN'T designed to be portable to something that IS designed to be portable?
Goddamn POS posters.
You're comparing something that ISN'T designed to be portable to something that IS designed to be portable?
Goddamn POS posters.
You also don't move DVD players or other tray fed disc players while there are discs inside. In use or not.
Now you know.
Now you know.
to the guy, talking, I like your voice. I don't think there are enough gay journalists in this field. gratz!
In other news, if you hold a strong magnet next to your HDD, you can double the disk size in the same way as punching a hole through a DD floppy turns it into a HD floppy! Just move it really slowly.
Fortunately, I have no compulsion to move my console around while it's on, so this is pretty much a non issue. Good job following the instructions there.
Systems designed in Japan (sony, nintendo) must be designed to handle minor earthquakes. The user might not move the console while it playing, but no one can stop earthquakes from moving a console during operation.
All those comments saying that MS doesn't need to fix anything has obviously never experienced an earthquake. It's a design fail and there's no excuses.
All those comments saying that MS doesn't need to fix anything has obviously never experienced an earthquake. It's a design fail and there's no excuses.
@Diomeneus: It seems there are a good few people in the comments that aren't retarded. I applaud them
sadly we are the minority.
sadly we are the minority.
Systems designed in Japan (sony, nintendo) must be designed to handle minor earthquakes. The user might not move the console while it playing, but no one can stop earthquakes from moving a console during operation.
All those comments saying that MS doesn't need to fix anything has obviously never experienced an earthquake. It's a design fail and there's no excuses.
All those comments saying that MS doesn't need to fix anything has obviously never experienced an earthquake. It's a design fail and there's no excuses.
I would say color me unimpressed, but if it really does cause scratches through minor rumbles and vibration (kid running by) then I'm scared. I live in a fairly active earthquake area. I'd hate to lose a game because the earth done quaketh.
wait, isn't this more of a "human" problem? a failure to take heed of that green "!". it's not a problem just for the 360 - you don't move any device that's spinning a disc.
The fact that the old one had ths problem gives you even less of an excuse. DON'T MOVE IT. Or just install your games whenever possible to prevent this. I've never had this problem before in my life.
@gareth
It does, I used it to snag a free copy of Saints Row 2 after my friend managed to have his xbox fall over when playing the game...twice. Two broken copies of the same game. But, a third friend had it, so we just installed it from his disc, and it boots. Occasionally it'll try to boot but freeze the console, if this happens you need to physically turn off the console and try again. But hey, it works.
But anyway, this is a glaring problem that they should've fixed...I mean, my Wii fell off a TV two feet onto a wooden TV stand then two feet off of that while playing Twilight Princess and both still work for christ's sake.
It does, I used it to snag a free copy of Saints Row 2 after my friend managed to have his xbox fall over when playing the game...twice. Two broken copies of the same game. But, a third friend had it, so we just installed it from his disc, and it boots. Occasionally it'll try to boot but freeze the console, if this happens you need to physically turn off the console and try again. But hey, it works.
But anyway, this is a glaring problem that they should've fixed...I mean, my Wii fell off a TV two feet onto a wooden TV stand then two feet off of that while playing Twilight Princess and both still work for christ's sake.
So now whenever I want to really piss off someone with a 360, all I have to do is throw a tennis ball at the system while someone's playing? Genius!
Not that I'd do anything like that. I don't have a tennis ball to throw. :(
Not that I'd do anything like that. I don't have a tennis ball to throw. :(
Damn, I planned on creating a mobile kinetic. An xbox 360 in a backpack with a projector and the kinetic camera pointed back at me so I could jog around outside while playing the avatar sports games. Guess this foils that.
Well, assuming it doesn't do that when you don't move it there should be no problem. You would have to be an idiot to move it when there's a disc in there anyway.
Why Are People Saying That They are gonna Wait After Seeing This...Whether You Buy It Now Or Later It's Gonna Have The SAme Issue...Even Microsoft Said DO not MOVE IT...But With Microsoft Money You would think that they would fix it :/ But Idk
I had my Xbox for 4 years before trading it for a PS3 (which in hindsight, was a very bad choice), not once did I have a problem with scratched discs. Mainly because I kept my little sister away from it and wasn't retarded enough to move it when I was sitting on a sofa to play a game.
wow watch the XBots come out to defend this piece of trash.
Do you own anything else that blows your disc to hell if you move it while it's playing? Have you ever? Not me. It's just like the bullshit RROD.
You buying a console when your 360 fails = another sale to MS.
You buying a replacement disc when yours gets wrecked = another sale to MS.
In short as long as people are suckers enough to fall for it, a shittier product has BETTER sales and numbers it would if it were a quality product.
Do you own anything else that blows your disc to hell if you move it while it's playing? Have you ever? Not me. It's just like the bullshit RROD.
You buying a console when your 360 fails = another sale to MS.
You buying a replacement disc when yours gets wrecked = another sale to MS.
In short as long as people are suckers enough to fall for it, a shittier product has BETTER sales and numbers it would if it were a quality product.
I accidentally bumped my Gamecube while I was playing it a long time ago. Didn't scratch the disc...but then again, you lock the disc down in the tray. Same with the PS1.
PS2...had a few discs that got scratched. Same with some of my friends. Why? The console was bumped hard enough to dislodge the disc...or that's at least the way I see it. My son pulled on the controller cord...scratched disc.
I've also had DVD players do the same thing. Now, portable ones, they typically let you lock the disc down like the GC, so it's usually not an issue.
PS2...had a few discs that got scratched. Same with some of my friends. Why? The console was bumped hard enough to dislodge the disc...or that's at least the way I see it. My son pulled on the controller cord...scratched disc.
I've also had DVD players do the same thing. Now, portable ones, they typically let you lock the disc down like the GC, so it's usually not an issue.
@Sexualchocolate
I find it very difficult to believe that story, (friend moved xbox while it was off and power was unplugged and disk was ruined) seeing how I frequently change TV's to play my 360 on and I sometimes leave the disk in the console while moving it around the house with no damage to the disk what so ever. I've also carried it in a school bag with no protection when walking for 40 minutes to a friend's house and no disk damage.
Your friend is either lying or managed to hit his console on something or something along those lines.
I find it very difficult to believe that story, (friend moved xbox while it was off and power was unplugged and disk was ruined) seeing how I frequently change TV's to play my 360 on and I sometimes leave the disk in the console while moving it around the house with no damage to the disk what so ever. I've also carried it in a school bag with no protection when walking for 40 minutes to a friend's house and no disk damage.
Your friend is either lying or managed to hit his console on something or something along those lines.
"It is to show the Microsoft haven't fixed it after there nth attempt at a hardware revision. Which is pretty poor in my opinion. "
Sorry there is currently no fix for user stupidity.
Sorry there is currently no fix for user stupidity.
Yes, surely the disc scratching can only occur by one particular action: Picking it up and shaking it like fine booty. It's not like we have children, pets, flimsy tables, weak floors that transmit much vibration and earthquakes of varying occurance depending on where in the world you live.
Not really a problem at all, i install all my game anway and with a 250gb harddrive theres no reason not to, just make sure not to move it when installing
You guys are idiots
This SHOULDN'T be a problem anymore
I've dropped my Wii IN-GAME because of short cords or something getting knocked over, NOTHING.
I've shifted my PS3 to get around the back or to move it, NOTHING HAPPENS.
But when you shift a 360 and it happens to be playing something, screeeeeeeeeeeeching halt and you're fucked.
Stop defending shitty hardware, its very possible for them to have put in a prevention method for a known problem in their still $300 reboot. Yes, moving it just to move it, is idiotic, but what happens when its an accident and you can't really afford that second or third copy of your favorite video game?
This SHOULDN'T be a problem anymore
I've dropped my Wii IN-GAME because of short cords or something getting knocked over, NOTHING.
I've shifted my PS3 to get around the back or to move it, NOTHING HAPPENS.
But when you shift a 360 and it happens to be playing something, screeeeeeeeeeeeching halt and you're fucked.
Stop defending shitty hardware, its very possible for them to have put in a prevention method for a known problem in their still $300 reboot. Yes, moving it just to move it, is idiotic, but what happens when its an accident and you can't really afford that second or third copy of your favorite video game?
@PvPPY
"Do you own anything else that blows your disc to hell if you move it while it's playing? Have you ever? Not me."
Yes - a PC.
Pointing out the stupidity of this video and article doesn't make someone a fanboy.
"Do you own anything else that blows your disc to hell if you move it while it's playing? Have you ever? Not me."
Yes - a PC.
Pointing out the stupidity of this video and article doesn't make someone a fanboy.
To the people that think they're smarr:
When you test a product, you do the things you're not supposed to do with it. If you follow the precautions, you don't get to learn just how sensitive the product can be.
I've had my Wii for a month and tripped over the keyboard's wire that was connected to it. The Wii a foot while running and kept on going like nothing had happened.
If that had been this 360, my game would be fucked.
The point to releasing a quality product is to account for the worst case scenario. If jostling the console creates a problem, that's something that needs to be addressed, not left as is and rushed to market.
When you test a product, you do the things you're not supposed to do with it. If you follow the precautions, you don't get to learn just how sensitive the product can be.
I've had my Wii for a month and tripped over the keyboard's wire that was connected to it. The Wii a foot while running and kept on going like nothing had happened.
If that had been this 360, my game would be fucked.
The point to releasing a quality product is to account for the worst case scenario. If jostling the console creates a problem, that's something that needs to be addressed, not left as is and rushed to market.
Both the PS3 and the Wii have a tray-less optical media drive, unlike the 360. That is why this isn't as much a problem for them. The giant sticker warning, experience, and an average dose of common sense should all be more than enough to prevent this from happening. Protip: put your expensive console in a stable place and don't be stupid.
Anyone that does that to any disc playing device while the disc in there is a moron. Try that with the Wii and the PS3 and you'll get the same result.
THIS WAS STUPID!!
THIS WAS STUPID!!
Also, way to read, people. It's not so much that Nick ignored the sticker and moved the console away, it was the fact that this was a known problem in previous editions and was never fixed. Oh yes, a sticker. That's sure gonna stop this from happening, boy howdy! God forbid you have kids, pets, tennis balls, or earthquakes. The almighty sticker will put a stop to all of those!
It's just like the end of the one Simpsons episode where Bart falls down the well. It was stated to have been dangerous and unused, so what was the solution? Putting up a sign reading "CAUTION: WELL" instead of doing anything significant.
Are you supposed to move the console while it's moving? No shit. But, and this is what only a handful of people are addressing, what about the times when you're not the one moving it?
It's just like the end of the one Simpsons episode where Bart falls down the well. It was stated to have been dangerous and unused, so what was the solution? Putting up a sign reading "CAUTION: WELL" instead of doing anything significant.
Are you supposed to move the console while it's moving? No shit. But, and this is what only a handful of people are addressing, what about the times when you're not the one moving it?
LOL, I quite enjoyed the video "Don't do that! Don't do that!".
Somebody ever had a Discman? You know, back in the nineties. I moved that sucker the whole goddamn time. What about your car stereo? Not exactly motionless either. But here we are, it's 2010 and we can't move a console without breaking the game.
Somebody ever had a Discman? You know, back in the nineties. I moved that sucker the whole goddamn time. What about your car stereo? Not exactly motionless either. But here we are, it's 2010 and we can't move a console without breaking the game.
I lost my Oblivion disk because I moved it while it was on..
But yeah, seriously, don't move the mother fucker when it's spinning. It's not a hard concept.
But yeah, seriously, don't move the mother fucker when it's spinning. It's not a hard concept.
To be fair, that was a hell of a jerk to the console. It sucks, but you are trying to move this thing 90 degrees WITH a disc winding up.
It is common sense not to go moving your console when a disc is spinning, but accidents do happen and surely they could have upgraded to a self-loading disc tray as seen in the Wii and PS3.
@Thulsa Dooom
"@ Crunshii You're comparing something that ISN'T designed to be portable to something that IS designed to be portable? Goddamn POS posters."
Well mr POS yourself, don't be defending a defective system that fucks your stuff. That is just retarded mentality. Go read my blog and try to defend it there. The PS1, PS2, PS3 Dreamcast, SEGA CD, XBOX 1, Wii gaming systems never had the scratch problem, why does the 360 do?
"@ Crunshii You're comparing something that ISN'T designed to be portable to something that IS designed to be portable? Goddamn POS posters."
Well mr POS yourself, don't be defending a defective system that fucks your stuff. That is just retarded mentality. Go read my blog and try to defend it there. The PS1, PS2, PS3 Dreamcast, SEGA CD, XBOX 1, Wii gaming systems never had the scratch problem, why does the 360 do?
Just to add people talking about small vibrations and minor earthquakes need to see the video, the fool picked the console up from horizontal to vertical in one quick movement. This was a complete bonehead moment, and clearly not the systems fault. He didn't bump it slightly, a fat guy did not jump near it.
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