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E3 10: Gran Turismo 5: 1,000 cars, all quite real looking photo

Polyphony Digital's Kazunori Yamauchi told attendees of a Gran Turismo 5 roundtable that the version they saw at E3 yesterday was mostly finished, and that a final version would be shown at Gamescom later this year. He was happy to talk about car counts, but only a few new stages were shown off.

For the cars, there are two types. The Standard cars cover models you know from the first four Gran Turismo games. They used the original models but have optimized them for the PS3's shaders. Yamauchi says that there will be 800 Standard cars in the final game.

A lot of the new cars are included as Premium cars. There are about 200 premium cars making the total car count at about 1,000. Note that only the premium cars will have a fully modeled interior. Even the bottom side of the cars have been modeled as cars can now roll over in Gran Turismo 5. Physics-based damage will be applied to both car model types, as will scratches and dent damage. The displacement of body panels and such are only on Premium cars, though.

We saw several detailed shots of how these in-game cars compare to real ones. I actually guessed wrong in the comparison shots of a wheel and a car engine. One of the most impressive comparisons was of the interior detail of a racing car from Super GT 500 class. The very highly detailed interior was almost identical, including harnesses, wiring and even the panels. You could see that the safety wire coming off the parts has even been modeled.

Yamauchi joked that maybe they went a bit too far with the detail work in Gran Turismo 5: "We've kind of worked too hard. The models are actually better suited to the next generation of game consoles."

You'll find several comparison shots in our gallery below.

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Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:04
Oishidesu
I forgive you for taking so long!! Everyone knows Gran Turismo is better than Forza anyways.
Scroll's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:04
Scroll
All this time and only 200 totally new cars with modelled interiors?

What the fuck have they been doing?

And No Yamauchi, you're game doesn't look that good.
Woverine's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:06
Woverine
"The models are actually better suited to the next generation of game consoles."

In b4 they delay it to the ps4.
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:09
VolksONER
Looks pretty enough. Wonder if they fixed the problem of the tires popping up through the fenders when the suspension compresses. That always bothered me in the previous gt games.
wonky360's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:11
wonky360
All very impressive from a modelling perspective, this is is so super-late that I find it hard to get excited nomatter how pretty it will look.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:12
mix
They look great but I REALLY hope those pictures are not the ones that you guessed wrong on as a dusty window and wheel tread are quite noticeable, lol.
Konrad9's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:15
Konrad9
So.... got a list?
Jackson Starburst's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:18
Jackson Starburst
That does look amazing, almost worth the wait, almost
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:19
LittleBigD
I'm with Wonky on this one. I've been waiting so long for GT5 that it's hard to get excited no matter how good it looks. I'm having so much fun with NFS Shift, and even though it's not as much of as simulator as GT5 it's still a blast to play, and I may not need another racer.
ralphster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:21
ralphster
forza 3 has set the bar for racing games.it got a 10 here in destructoid,so even if it gets 9.5 it will still be considered as a failure after all the time they put on it. look at forza it was announced on e3 last year and it came out last year.sony announce gt5 too early
GodofWar86's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:26
GodofWar86
A racing game that actually caters to fans that know something about racing, about time.

Can't wait to relive Rally New Zealand with a Subaru Impreza 555 or the 1992 Belgian Grand Prix.

I'm not sure how well Gran Turismo 5 will sell overall but for real racing fans its just the best and most complete racing game point blank.


I'm also excited about the Top Gear track being featured. Will try and beat the Stigs scores :P
wox42's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:29
wox42
So what you're saying is, only a fifth of the cars will allow the features that we've come to expect from modern racing games.

Well that really sucks. A lot. But I can't stay mad at this game as long as it's got the Top Gear test track in it.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:30
RenegadePanda
So if only 200 cars have fully modeled interiors...does that mean only 200 cars will have true cockpit views (steering wheel, guages etc.)? Unless I get a real cockpit view for every car, this game is automatically disqualified in my eyes.

Or do they just mean 200 of the cars have rear seats modeled out? Still, the fact that they're reusing existing models with updated shaders is kind of odd considering this game has been in development since the dawn of man itself. I don't see why there has been such a huge delay if they're essentially reusing existing assets for a good portion of the game.
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:31
Genius
All I know is Im buying it day one, don't care about the wait.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:32
Sexualchocolate
Long live the king.
Duuuude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:47
Duuuude
I love all the fanboy-laced comments in here. Oh, but I forgot. Forza is an arcade racer. Stupid me!
Gestault's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:49
Gestault
This reeks of poor planning. I'm still buying the shit out of it, assuming the driving is still solid, but I'm gonna be grumpy while I do it.
Evergreen's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:52
Evergreen
I'm just hoping all cars will have the option of having the steering wheel on the left side of the car. I may have difficulty using that particular view otherwise.
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 13:57
Themightylebeau2009
@ Hardrock Spiffy - I agree, I have about 50 cars in Forza and that seems plenty lol

Hope the online is going to be good mainly though.
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:10
VolksONER
Forza 3 an arcade racer? Lol. As someone that does suspension work for a living and drives different makes and models of cars daily. I can say with confidence that forza 3 is the most realistic handeling game I've ever played.
Hopefully gt can take the crown back (and justify all that development time) well just have to wait (some more) and see
taiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:20
taiki
I wasn't excited.

at all.

Then the trailer came.

and ...

THE STIG.

WHO CARES ABOUT 1000 CARS. FORZA HAS NO STIG. GT5? STIG.
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:21
SR388
The main reason I do not get super pumped for 1000 cars in GT5 is because I really doubt they will have truly that many cars. The game will most certainly have 1000 cars but they will have about 5 different models of the R33 skyline GT-R. Heck they even counted the midnight blue edition of the R33 as it's own model.

I am still super excited for the game but I don't lose my shit over the 1000 cars deal.

Honestly I think the job forza 3 did in that aspect was great as they have some 400 cars all with interiors(although some of the gauges don't work on a lot of the race cars).
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:25
SR388
Slight edit on my earlier post. I meant to say that in GT4 the called the midnight blue GT-R it's own model. I expect GT5 to follow suit.

Now if they include my 2000 Acura integra GSR along with the Type-R all will be forgiven.
Duuuude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:27
Duuuude
@VolksONER I was just being facetious. I love Forza and agree that it feels exactly like real racing (not that I've done that on public streets ;) ).

I really hope GT picks up the pace from the time trial demo and Prologue. Both disappointed me, physics-wise. They both felt like driving on winter roads when you spun out.
smoger's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:32
smoger
GT4 had 38 versions of Skyline GT-R . :-/
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:33
Themightylebeau2009
taiki - You make a very valid point there.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:41
amtalx
1,000 Cars = 800 Lancer Evos and 200 others.
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:42
SR388
@duuuuude

I concur. I really feel that in GT5p the cars felt too light, grippy and floaty. The cars in forza 3 really feel like they have some weight to them, so powersliding or even turning a hot lap feels satisfying.

It will take me a while to adjust back to GT.
Crabman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 14:58
Crabman
"The Standard cars cover models you know from the first four Gran Turismo games. They used the original models but have optimized them for the PS3's shaders."

Wait. What does this actually mean? Are we looking at GT4 cars with respect to poly counts but new texturing work? GT4 looked damn fine - better than Forza 2, IMO - but this sounds somewhat disapointing. Then again, it's really the shaders/texturing that make alot of games pop these days. But still, somewhat dispointing.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 15:05
Mr Andy Dixon
Not into car porn, but if I was this would certainly make me jizz.
readbigwordsisgood's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 15:28
readbigwordsisgood
I was skipping this until hearing there will be visual damage. Now it's a possibility at least.
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 15:34
VolksONER
Right on duuuude.
Does gt have a livery editor? It's been so long since I've played one. Sold my ps2 (STUPID MISTAKE! Sure do miss playing the Warriors with my bro) shorty after getting my 360. The livery editor is my favorite feature of forza 3, I've probably got over 100 hours logged.
Planning on getting a ps3 (someday) and this game is deffinately gonna be purchased when that day comes.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 15:42
Takeshi
If they had less cars than Forza people would complain. If it had exactly the same amount of cars as Forza, people would complain. Now it has more cars than Forza and people still complain. That's what you get nowadays on the internet. People love to bitch and complain. Mostly about a game or console they don't have or can't afford.
the guy with the hat's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 15:45
the guy with the hat
@Takeshi Deep bro, real deep.
josephayal's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 15:58
josephayal
GT5 looks 3X BETTER than all forzas combine, 600+ more cars night,rally,nascar SIMPLE.. the best racing sim ever made, u know is gt the original
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 16:01
VolksONER
"tell em Steve Dave!"

polyphony designed the computer display for the skyline so it's only natural that they'd have a buttload of em in the game.
dj-anon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 16:38
dj-anon
Takeshi:

Not really. All this talk about the quantity of cars featured in the game is silly in the first place and it's PD's fault for falling for it.

Forza 3 has 400 cars and I barely have driven around 100, a lot of them only once. PD should have focused on a lesser quantity but make them all with fully modeled interiors.
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 16:51
Stinky
Yeah nice models, how does it drive though?
Vitamin Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/17/2010 22:19
Vitamin Awesome
They upscaled 80% of the cars from the previous games, and only the 20% they did make have fully modeled interiors... Forza 3's 400 interior models done in two years seems more impressive, IMO. Although considering the fact that PD has been busy with other incarnations of GT (HD Concept, 5Prologue, and GTPSP), It's still pretty impressive on their part, But having a small percentage of the cars with a major difference in model "completeness" compared to the rest is kind of a letdown. Still, jury's out on how it plays, so I'm still looking forward to November 2nd regardless!
SymphonyX7's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/18/2010 00:24
SymphonyX7
Just because it looks better, doesn't mean it plays (or in this case, simulates) better.
Kaden101's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/18/2010 01:04
Kaden101
Just for clarification. The premium models having fully modelled interiors means :

Engine bay
Full interior deformation in an accident
Suspension, & chassis visible when panels get damaged/ripped off in an accident
Higher quality dashboard modelling

"All" (yes "all") models will have a cockpit/dashboard view.

This argument has been raging for months on GT Planet Forums.

The standard models don't have as good a damage setup, panels, doors, bonnets etc won't be ripped off, & you won't see the chassis or engine etc underneath, but they will still have cosmetic damage, & scratches.

Hope that clears thing up so that all the Forza fans can stop bitching about something they want to fail because it's not Forza.

I'm not dissing Forza, never played it, don't have a 360. Really, really looking forward to GT5 though.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/18/2010 19:42
Takeshi
@dj-anan
You have only driven 100 cars in Forza. Which means? Nothing. Look, you can bitch all you want but what is there against more content? Especially a game you weren't going to buy anyway.

@The guy with the hat
Deep you say? I kept it deliberately shallow so even the people you can't count to 1000 can understand what the hell I was saying.
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