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If you own an Xbox 360 you know the most annoying thing about it is the RRoD. You probably know the second most annoying thing about it as well, and that is that it can scratch the sh*t out of your discs. Nothing like plopping down $60 bucks just to get home and have the game ruined because your console destroyed it.  You'd think this would be something the Microsoft would take care in their new version of the console since it seems they've taken care of many of the other issues the console had. Think again. Our intrepid E3 team tested the console out with an Alan Wake disc and then Nick decided to move it. Suddenly all hell breaks loose. Goodbye, Alan Wake.

Sure, there was a sticker on the damn thing saying not to move it, but it isn't like he was tossing it around the room. They're planning on having gesticulating children play Kinect anywhere near this thing? Some games are going to be getting destroyed, people. Looks like everyone needs to be really, really careful around their new 360s while they are on or their games are going to get wrecked.

 

 Dale writes:

So, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Nick and I were at an unboxing event for the newly announced Xbox 360 today, and it was there that he committed a sin that will never be forgiven. Well, it wasn't a sin as much as it was a total waste of a perfectly fine copy of Alan Wake.

You see, despite the warning on the front of the new Xbox 360, Nick picked up the system to move it from horizontal to vertical position while the game was booting. The resulting sound was close to that of starting a garbage disposal with a fork in it. After hearing the horrendous noise, Microsoft people immediately ran to our area with concerned faces. "Yeah, you can't do that," we were told. As you'll see in the video, to Nick's embarrassment, Microsoft's Bill Beldan pointed out the prominent warning sticker right there on the system's face, which clearly explained that you can't move the system when a game is in use.

Fail.








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Uther's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:44
Uther
Yikes! I'm thinking about buying one in the future, but this has me worrying.
Ironknight's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:45
Ironknight
Well they knew about the problem in the original and could have easily have fixed it but decided not to so this doesn't surprise me
Tachyon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:45
Tachyon
Its been one day since its announcement and a glaring problem with the old 360s has carried itself over to the new slim version.

I'll pass thanks MSoft -_-
Caspulex's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:46
Caspulex
I applaud your failure, Microsoft.

Well, you can always rent and install Alan Wake to the drive with a fresh copy and boot it using the busted disc if it still registers as Alan Wake...that 250GB isn't going anywhere.
Bolduk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:46
Bolduk
Buzzkill. What the hell are Microsoft doing all day? They don't even fix their console's problems!
Courtney Roberts's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:48
Courtney Roberts
what the actual fuck microsoft. there is no excuse for this, this is what, the 5th hardware revision?
brod's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:49
brod
Ok?

I can't think of any valid reason to pick up a 360 while it's in use. The video literally made me facepalm.
dangeRUSS04's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:49
dangeRUSS04
YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN TO MOVE ANYTHING WITH A DISC IN IT WHILE THE DISC IS IN MOTION
brod's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:50
brod
I need two posts to convey how retarded this is. Do you pick up your PC tower and shake it around while playing a game as well?
Tachyon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:50
Tachyon
Actually thinking about it apart from adding new shiny stuff have Microsoft fixed any problems that the old hardware had????

Queue RRoD.... but this time its the RRoD slim edition!
Judo Porkchop's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:50
Judo Porkchop
You touched it! Noooooo!
JonW's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:51
JonW
So, asstard decides to move the damn console while the disc is spinning and the disc gets scratched, but it's Microsoft's fault? Even after they tell you not to move the machine while the disc is spinning? That's your fault.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:51
HEL105
When would that ever happen, unless it was an accident? That's like complaining that the people inside a car get hurt if you drive it into a tree.
Jnr Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:51
Jnr Johnson
Idk man This isnt really Microsoft issues....But STill It kinda is :/ But Any 360 owner should know better do that when they have a game in there....But STill Im Sure Microsoft knew that So they should have done something about it....Cause this happen to ME But I When I had the System All VERTICAL and it fell over I was like NOOOOOO!!!!!!! but yeah Im still interested...Im just gonna treat it the same Way I treat my current one As in NOT touching it while it's spinning...
David O'Keefe's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:53
David O'Keefe
Err...I was thinking about giving the 360 another shot after selling my old one. Not sure if I'll be doing that now.
Tachyon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:53
Tachyon
@brod

It is to show the Microsoft haven't fixed it after there nth attempt at a hardware revision. Which is pretty poor in my opinion.

Of course you won't actually move it while playing, but I could shake my PC tower and shake it without causing THAT much damage to a disc.
Halidar's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:55
Halidar
I can see why moving it while the disc is spinning could do this. Doesn't have me too worried.
Jnr Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:55
Jnr Johnson
This Is one of Those LEssons That ALL 360 owners learn About...You just gotta live with it And hope U Can Return it without a problem :-/
Nkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:55
Nkiller
Geez, you'd think MS would've learned their lession by now with it. But why the hell does it STILL scratch discs? I'm sure they sorted the hardware problems, especially with the bigger vents in the slim console, but this scratching business has gone on for too long now.
Mr Grrrr's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:55
Mr Grrrr
I'm not shocked by this but this is why I spent forty dollars on a good scratch remover.
adamkirby1's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:55
adamkirby1
Funny, the other consoles don't have a "don't touch it, act like it's made of lava" policy. Or at least they won't destroy your disc if something falls on it, or you knock it over when jumping around like a retard.
brod's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:55
brod
If you actually needed to move the system while it was in use then it would be designed to cope with it (eg. PSP). It's not a handheld. Don't bloody move it.

There's nothing that needs fixing.
azninvasion2000's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:56
azninvasion2000
does this happen with a gamecube/xbox/ps2/ps3? i don't think i've ever moved a console while a disc is spinning in it so I am not sure.
Boiglenoight Darkstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:56
Boiglenoight Darkstar
Protip: Don't move a console while it's in use.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:57
Springsteen
Right. So they're trying to sell this new hardware with Kinect. For kids to use. When you cannot move the console or else the game gets destroyed. And for 4 hundred bucks. Kinect alone costing pretty much the same as pre-black Wii bundles.

I have a hard time seeing this working. I know the Wii probably requires an even heftier investment to allow for multiplayer, but this sort of investment goes better with the average consumer. Shelling out a huge ammount of cash in a single sitting isn't anywhere near as inviting.
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:57
Retrofraction
meh it is poor design.

But what do you expect from a HD system that cost the same as the wii?
seventhevening's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:58
seventhevening
The problem is deeper than just moving it. If there is too much floor vibration near the system while it is on, it will destroy the disk. Essentially, a child runs past the TV, it may destroy the disk.

How do people not see that as a problem?
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:58
Stigmeyer
My cat jumps on my PS3 all the time and it scares the crap out of me. Good thing the machine has never wrecked my discs. With a 360 this would make me MUCH more nervous. Why did they keep the pants-shitting tray???
CSampson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:58
CSampson
Who the fuck moves a console around while the game is spinning? Fucking idiot.
Holesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:59
Holesome
Seems after all these years Nick still hasn't learned. How old is he? That's what you get for FREE product. I'm sure MS will replace the game if you bitch to Major Nelson.

On the flip side, MS, you haven't learned much either.
Naktu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:59
Naktu
You try spinning something at 7200 RPM and flicking it, see if it doesn't freak out. It's the gyroscope effect, there's not much Microsoft can do as far as fundamentally altering physics. This will happen with ANY tray operated disc system.
XrayZwei's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:59
XrayZwei
I didn't think the problem with scratched discs was with numbskulls on the internet moving the console, I thought it was just having the system in the vertical position. Maybe if you guys would stand it up and LEAVE IT THE F*CK ALONE we could test if that was fixed or not.
Mr Hibbert's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 09:59
Mr Hibbert
Yeah, not being an idiot is key to avoiding this.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:00
Occams electric toothbrush
Hmmmm...that's a good thing to know.
nanowerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:02
nanowerx
Nice try. Trying to slander a system for a problem that you artificially created by MOVING THE SYSTEM WHILE A GAME WAS SPINNING UP!!

Do this with any electronics and you are going to have similar results
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:02
VolksONER
Lol at all the "way to Microsoft" comments. All it takes is some reading comprehension and a touch of common sense to know not to move tour console while the disc is spinning. Seriously, there's a warning sticker right on the thing.
MurderDeathKill's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:03
MurderDeathKill
So the console tells you that moving it around is a bad idea and will likely harm your disk?

Congrats, YOU just destroyed the disk, not the Xbox.

Retard.
KirbyMcDope's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:03
KirbyMcDope
Looks slick, but made out of garbage. Cheap fucking hardware.
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:03
Thulsa Dooom
Nick sounds like the type of guy who sees "CAUTION: HOT SURFACE" and then sticks his hand right on it.
AlphaJC's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:05
AlphaJC
Maybe he was being a dumg fuck and moved it thats his fault i don't ever rcall picking up a console and turning it upside down was a good thing. Stupid dumb ass.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:05
garethxxgod
Thank god I learned this with my copy of Dead Rising. It's only a 20 dollar game but Best Buy let me trade in for a new copy.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:06
Sexualchocolate
A close buddy of mine swears his 360 was OFF, power lead unplugged when he moved it and it destroyed his mw disc.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:07
Aurain
Should be common sense really.

If you need to move something. Turn every thing off and take everything out.
No sympathies, nor is this news worthy.

You make a problem, you'll find a problem.
gdogg666's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:07
gdogg666
wow here i was actually thinkin about gettin this when i get the money but i may want to wait now
SenorDoucheoisie's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:08
SenorDoucheoisie
Nick definitely shouldn't have had a brain fart and moved it, but at the same time Microsoft's solution to the problem should've been to fix it, not to fucking affix a sticker to the front.

I've kicked around my PS3 accidentally a few times while the disc was running, and nothing bad came out of it. My Wii fell headfirst off its perch while it was loading Mario Galaxy 2, and even that didn't do anything.
Eric Chon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:08
Eric Chon
Pro Tip: Don't move the Xbox while there's a disc inside.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:08
DeusPayne
Clearly Microsoft is at fault for not creating their own laws of physics to prevent such a situation from occurring.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:09
Crunshii
wow... just wow. How come this shit wasn't fixed? For christ sake there are portable DVD players that fall down, hit the ground from 4ft high and STILL PLAY and DONT SCRATCH.

Goddamn POS Hardware.
Jhonny Thizzlam's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:12
Jhonny Thizzlam
ill gladly take your new 360!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you dont want it
Diomeneus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2010 10:14
Diomeneus
This has nothing to do with microsoft failing... go take your computer while it has a disc spinning and try and tilt it. Go on, I'm waiting. What's that? It did pretty much the same thing?

Don't tilt optical technology while it is SPINNING! The only drives that can handle that kind of nonsense are the ones with a circular piece in the middle the disc snaps on to...

Your ignorance disappoints me destructoid. Now many readers will this this is an xbox flaw simply out of lack of understanding.

Afterthought: It seems there are a good few people in the comments that aren't retarded. I applaud them
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