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E3 09: Protestors descend upon the Dante's Inferno booth photo

Well, maybe descend isn’t quite the right word. It’s more like they were peacefully standing outside the convention center waving signs with slogans like “EA = Electronic Anti-Christ,” and “Hell Is Not A Game.” Although, for the record, Hell totally is a game; it came out on the 3DO, no less.

So what is it about Dante’s Inferno that got these protestors, The Saved Group, so riled up? According to member Cherry Adams, it’s because they feel it “disrespects [themselves], the Bible, [and] the Christian belief.” Specifically, they don’t like that Dante can leave Hell, his usage of a crucifix as a weapon, and all the violence in general. She affirms that “we don't need this right now in our society.”

Whoa, whoa, whoa, right now? These people do realize that the game is based -- however loosely -- on prior source material, right? They do, actually, but as with most moral outrage theirs’ stems from an urge to protect the chilluns: "Our youth today live in a fantasy world to begin with,” she continues, “and they don't need any encouragement to follow in the sins that are laid out in the levels of hell."

I will grant that it’s probably far more likely for a kid to pick up and play a copy of Dante’s Inferno (coming this fall!) then read a copy of The Divine Comedy, but even so, I think it’s a bit silly to get all worked up because a videogame uses Hell as a setting. Especially since other mediums can do it without causing a ruckus.

[Update: Some matlocking in the comments shows that this may actually just be a PR stunt. Props to EA, if so.]


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Zero Atma's Avatar
Zero Atma at 06/03/2009 23:27
the rain looks more like snow!
Lydeck's Avatar
Lydeck at 06/03/2009 23:29
That's because it IS snow, lol.

Yeah. There's all kinds of crazies in the world. Who let those morons in, anyway?
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gamadaya at 06/03/2009 23:30
"Our youth today live in a fantasy world to begin with"

I don't understand how even they can take themselves seriously when they say things like that.
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Qraze at 06/03/2009 23:31
fuck them. always a few sour apples trying to rain down on the few that are happy.
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garison at 06/03/2009 23:31
"Our youth today live in a fantasy world to begin with,”

They are saying that WE are living in a fantasy world, when they are the ones who believe in some invisible spirit-ghost who died for our sins on a cross and that the universe/world was created 4000 years ago in 7 days.

We may play a lot of videogames, but that doesn't mean that we actually believe what happens in them is truth.
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Doomsday Forte at 06/03/2009 23:32
Uh, Dante in the original work walked through Hell, then through Purgatory and boarded a rocket to Heaven. Doesn't that sound like ...escaping Hell?

Where were these guys several hundred years ago?
bodybreak's Avatar
bodybreak at 06/03/2009 23:33
it hardly looks as if they're causing a ruckus, and the most they can accomplish is "raising awareness" -- and really, what harm will that cause? a few christian parents won't buy their kids this M rated game?
Fugue's Avatar
Fugue at 06/03/2009 23:39
"Where were these guys several hundred years ago?"


Trying to stop the Enlightenment?
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/03/2009 23:40
lawl, hypocrites.
garison's Avatar
garison at 06/03/2009 23:40
YAY Christangamer's opinion on satanic games FTW!
Holiday's Avatar
Holiday at 06/03/2009 23:41
I smell a marketing ploy.

I mean c'mon, there were a zillion video games that had Hell and Christianity in them before Dante's Inferno.
ThunderHeartXI's Avatar
ThunderHeartXI at 06/03/2009 23:42
In before 150 comments on the religious flame war that is to come.
Tronjoy's Avatar
Tronjoy at 06/03/2009 23:44
No kidding. If these people are shocked about the way a crucifix will be used in this game, maybe they should take a gander at The Exorcist some time.
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starhawl at 06/03/2009 23:45
@ fugue lol really i want to add more to this but I cannot
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Justin Villasenor at 06/03/2009 23:50
@Holiday

What really surprises me is that they didn't have anything to say about the dozens of other violent games that are currently playable on the E3 show floor. I guess those are all ok because they don't feature Hell. Or they just didn't know about em', which is probably more likely.
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Live-Free-Or-Pie at 06/03/2009 23:52
Do you think the protesters were shills? It would certainly be a creative buzz-generating tool. SPY CHECK!
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/03/2009 23:53
Oh man their website is priceless.

http://wearesavedgroup.org/
Live-Free-Or-Pie's Avatar
Live-Free-Or-Pie at 06/03/2009 23:57
@cronoswing: A website that links to EA? Looks like another "All I want for Christmas is a PSP"
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bodybreak at 06/04/2009 00:00
Those who fall victim to the trappings of this VIRTUAL HELL game will not have to wait long until the find themselves in REAL ACTUAL HELL where they will not be given any weapons or power ups to protect themselves from fiery demons, razorblade babies, or spewing bodily fluids.
hahahahahha. truly priceless.
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Infinitys End at 06/04/2009 00:02
ANY time you throw religion into it, people are going to get offended. Since they're so brainwashed at an early age, THEY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE but to respond that way.
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Gyrael at 06/04/2009 00:04
That site's GOT to be a joke.
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/04/2009 00:06
@Live-Free-Or-Pie

Now that you mention it... this supposed group didn't exist as far as I can tell until today, same for that website... Could of super clever viral marketing. In that case Bravo EA.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar
BlackSunEmpire at 06/04/2009 00:06
"ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE. and he will not judge the sinning gamers who play this game kindly."

That sounds judgmental. Ahhh, mighty hypocrisy, where would these groups be without you.
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Shoop at 06/04/2009 00:08
Their website looks so fake.
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Swizzler121 at 06/04/2009 00:12
I agree, this sounds like viral. the site isn't made with frontpage and uses proper ascii. its purposely designed bad. the picture of dante's inferno is also photoshopped to look like that, it has the logo edited over the top (well) and was blurred to look like they stretched it, but the lack of artifacts says otherwise.
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Live-Free-Or-Pie at 06/04/2009 00:13
I checked the view-source, the coding is extremely neat with some nicely arranged CSS at the beginning. That video has too much game footage in it. If looking at it gets you damnation, then they wouldn't put it up to view would they? There's a link to Gametrailers as well. Gametrailers? Who outside the gaming culture knows about that site? I SMELL A RAT!!!
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Live-Free-Or-Pie at 06/04/2009 00:15
I checked the view-source, the coding is extremely neat with some nicely arranged CSS at the beginning. That video has too much game footage in it. If looking at it gets you damnation, then they wouldn't put it up to view would they? There's a link to Gametrailers as well. Gametrailers? Who outside the gaming culture knows about that site? I SMELL A RAT!!!
shadowcast's Avatar
shadowcast at 06/04/2009 00:31
Obvious PR stunt is obvious.
dgschrei's Avatar
dgschrei at 06/04/2009 00:32
If that's not viral you can call me Steve from now on. Come on, they are actually accusing EA of witchcraft. No christian radical would be that stupid no matter what.
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aaronf at 06/04/2009 00:35
Given that these people believe in nonsense like virgin births and resurrections, I don't find their protests surprising at all.
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/04/2009 00:41
@dgschrei

I beg to differ.

witchcraft.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar
GoldenGamerXero at 06/04/2009 00:42
These guys are what makes me ashamed to be christain...

Oh and guys it's JUST as ignorant to say horrible things about Christianity as it is to try to ban a game. It's the same rule: If you don't like it. Shut The Fuck Up
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Dexter345 at 06/04/2009 00:47
Not to mention the fact that Dante enters and leaves Hell in The Inferno, the written work.
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HarassmentPanda at 06/04/2009 00:49
This is a marketing ploy. It's been discussed and investigated elsewhere.
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Chronic Logic at 06/04/2009 00:55
If this is a PR stunt, then I think EA is being a little callous. Can you imagine the backlash against these Christians by gamers who believe that these were legit protesters?
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/04/2009 00:58
@GoldenGamerXero

Except that it's not.
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gatorsax2010 at 06/04/2009 01:00
I find the whole "LOL let's do a viral stunt making fun of Christians" far more offensive than the idea of a game where you fight the devil. Doesn't mean I won't play the game, of course. I'm a Christian, but I find the far-right-protesting just as annoying as anyone else, especially since it usually ends up painting all Christians with the same extremist brush. Still, I have to question EA's judgment on this one. I could see it backfiring. What about people who don't have a problem with the game, but have a problem with this?
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GoldenGamerXero at 06/04/2009 01:25
@Chronoswing

Yes, Ok, yes it is. You you have any idea how insulting it is when you go on a website and the mention of Christianity imediately results in "Given that these people believe in nonsense like virgin births and resurrections" "Since they're so brainwashed at an early age, THEY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE but to respond that way." or "They are saying that WE are living in a fantasy world, when they are the ones who believe in some invisible spirit-ghost who died for our sins on a cross and that the universe/world was created 4000 years ago in 7 days"

It does offend people and I'm not easy offended. I wouldn't even care if you guys were kidding around but things like this are just plain offensive and have a total disregard of anyone's feeling or views. It's not wrong to be a christain or atheist. It's wrong to be an asshole about it.
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Cadtalfryn at 06/04/2009 01:47
Oh EA I do enjoy how you have poked fun at whilst using hardcore Christian lunatic ideology and behaviour against themselves.
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TJF588 at 06/04/2009 01:57
Browsin' Spriter's Resource the other day, and one of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night's sheets had a big ol' crucifix in 'ere. Should someone let them know this isn't a new atrocity upon the Christian (and Catholic) ways?
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar
BlackSunEmpire at 06/04/2009 02:06
@GoldenGamerXero

Are you serious?? I don't know if you've read comments here before, but people are quick to poke fun at all sorts of things. And according to the TOS, religion isn't on the list of things not to touch.

You need to be more comfortable with your own religious beliefs if a few comments on a videogame website insult you. Either sit there smugly knowing we're all going to hell, or question what it is that makes you uncomfortable.
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cainball at 06/04/2009 02:13
@GoldenGamerXero

Thanks for saying what you did. It bugs me when people deliberately exaggerate and misrepresent what Christians believe. I became a Christian later in life, as a personal choice. It wasn't how I was raised, it was a concious choice.
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/04/2009 02:18
@GoldenGamerXero

LOL. Are you seriously getting offended by someone's comments on the internet, Destructoid of all places at that? Go back to youtube commenting, they will like you better there.
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stevenjazz787 at 06/04/2009 02:22
"they are the ones who believe in some invisible spirit-ghost who died for our sins on a cross and that the universe/world was created 4000 years ago in 7 days"

Other than the exact number of years, is there anything inaccurate about the quote?

If that's what you believe, it's what you believe. You shouldn't take offense to it.

If you don't believe that, then they weren't talking about you.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar
GoldenGamerXero at 06/04/2009 02:27
@BlackSunEmpire

I never actually got really pissed off till it seemed people didn't get how saying "Some christians don't like video games ALL christians are bad" is just as retarded as saying "Some part of the video game has religion in it this video game is the Devil".I'm actually quite comfortable with with my religion and although some people wish to mock it I usually don't care but all I wanted to do was tell people they may have crossed the line a bit there between joking around and being a little bit of a dick. If no one ever corrects anyone and says yes people will find this offensive everyone will just countinue to do it and no one will stop it because everyone's so used to it.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar
BlackSunEmpire at 06/04/2009 02:38
@GoldenGamerXero

And I was saying you're pushing shit up hill by worrying about it. I don't think many people worry about who it is they're going to offend by commenting here, they just do it.

Basically, people post things that may offend people and may be factually inaccurate every day, what makes religion a no go subject??
ChronosWing's Avatar
ChronosWing at 06/04/2009 02:41
LOL, serously once again this is dtoid, Jim himself has mocked Christianity in front page posts a number of times, I don't think were to worried about offending anyone.
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Timstuff at 06/04/2009 04:02
I'm disappointed in EA for using such a low brow tactic. At least "I want a PSP for Xmas" wasn't marketing the PSP at the expense of a faith that's already struggling with image problems. Just look at the kind of comments EA's little stunt generated in this article, and it shows you that right now is probably not the best time to be pulling "pranks" in regards to religion.
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eggz at 06/04/2009 05:50
@GoldenGamerXero
high 5
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wanderingpixel at 06/04/2009 06:33
Just a pipe dream, but mabye the game will inspire kids to read the book.
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