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"Seriously, why did Nintendo even bother with E3? Are they holding all of the cool stuff for the Tokyo Game Show? Or are they really that lame?"
I'm really hoping they have more planned, but I'm pretty sure they do. Don't we have evidence that Kid Icarus Wii is in the works? We know the Mario and Zelda teams are busy on something. Where is Mario Tennis Wii? That sounds like the best idea ever....
I'm really hoping they have more planned, but I'm pretty sure they do. Don't we have evidence that Kid Icarus Wii is in the works? We know the Mario and Zelda teams are busy on something. Where is Mario Tennis Wii? That sounds like the best idea ever....
Hey enjoy Nintendo for what its left from them: Third party support on the DS. Seriously if you like RPGs they are being released on the DS like there is no tomorrow, maybe cause this guys know they have to port em and/or release em NOW cause the next hand held won't even have a freaking Mario or Zelda to go with it.
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I laughed out loud at this comment section.
I'm gradually moving past being mad about Nintendo not bringing it "hardcore" or "old-school". Nintendo has found a gold mine and their milking it . . . cash cow and their tapping it? uuuh . . .
Its unfortunate that Reggie either doesn't get it, or doesn't have a more powerful line of guff than "We gave you Animal Crossing and announced a GTA title for DS. Isn't that great?"
I'm gradually moving past being mad about Nintendo not bringing it "hardcore" or "old-school". Nintendo has found a gold mine and their milking it . . . cash cow and their tapping it? uuuh . . .
Its unfortunate that Reggie either doesn't get it, or doesn't have a more powerful line of guff than "We gave you Animal Crossing and announced a GTA title for DS. Isn't that great?"
1st off: the never announce awesome stuff at the main e3 conference.
2nd: I'm pretty sure they can tell us hardcore gamers to fuck off now, since their demographic is definitely family based now.
3rded: The Show is still on for 3 more days... so fucking relax.
2nd: I'm pretty sure they can tell us hardcore gamers to fuck off now, since their demographic is definitely family based now.
3rded: The Show is still on for 3 more days... so fucking relax.
I would just be echoing what has already been said in here. Believe it or not, but I prefer my Gamecube collection of games to what I've seen for the Wii so far.
Games like Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker...to name a few.
No thanks, Reggie. Get back to me when your new core audience either grows-up, or when they realize there's more out there for them.
Games like Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker...to name a few.
No thanks, Reggie. Get back to me when your new core audience either grows-up, or when they realize there's more out there for them.
That's why I praise Sony and Microsoft and I'm happy I own a 360 and a PS3 also! At least Sony and Microsoft know how to release games for the Hardcore.
My wii is about to join my atari 2600 in my closet. I'm sorry buddy :(. . don't look at me with your blue light your making this harder than it has to be, just go in there.
As for Reggie dude what happen to "Kicking ass and taking names"?
My wii is about to join my atari 2600 in my closet. I'm sorry buddy :(. . don't look at me with your blue light your making this harder than it has to be, just go in there.
As for Reggie dude what happen to "Kicking ass and taking names"?
What free touch said.
People are never satisfied, whether it's Nintendo wanting to profit, or gamers wanting their fantasies realized all at once, every second, for the rest of their freaking lives.
Try and relax, brothers and sisters of the I WANT IT NOOOOOW generation.
People are never satisfied, whether it's Nintendo wanting to profit, or gamers wanting their fantasies realized all at once, every second, for the rest of their freaking lives.
Try and relax, brothers and sisters of the I WANT IT NOOOOOW generation.
When I think GOW2, Fallout 3, FF XIII, Far Cry 2, then i look at Animal Crossing and i just laugh and call everyone who thinks they are anything more that a Toy company an Utter Cunt.
Sure new ips but using epic music, decent lighting and a fantastic story as well as fun gameplay.
If you compare any of their new lineup or msot of their current Ips that appeal to the "Core", you see they are a joke.
Sure new ips but using epic music, decent lighting and a fantastic story as well as fun gameplay.
If you compare any of their new lineup or msot of their current Ips that appeal to the "Core", you see they are a joke.
Thank God I'm getting a 360 for Christmas. Don't know how my poor gamer soul would fare if all I had to play was Animal Crossing and Wario. At least there are a few good exclusives to keep Wii gamers busy until next year. de Blob, MadWorld, anyone?
@People defending Nintendo on this topic
Seriously, the new IPs I was looking for were not things like, "Disc Dog", "Wii Music" and "Shaun White Snowboarding". If you're going to sit there and tell me these are things you're super jazzed about, then fine. I sincerely hope you enjoy these games. But don't expect gamers like US to be happy about what is clearly a movement away from the types of games we want. Hell, I don't even care if they have new IPs, as long as the games for the existing ones don't suck. However, they are so few and far between that the Wii rarely gets used in my house.
I wanted to be happy about Animal Crossing until I saw screenshots that looked exactly like the DS version (right down to the furniture sets) only with four players on the screen. Clearly, the largely inferior (compared to the GC version) DS version is being shoehorned onto the Wii and I'm supposed to be excited because Nintendo finally stepped into the current console generation and told me I can voice chat? I'm not asking for much. I just wanted ONE thing to be enthusiastic about. Orcist and everyone else thinking I should be happy about things like "Wii Sports Resort" clearly don't share my taste in video games, or are totally in denial.
Seriously, the new IPs I was looking for were not things like, "Disc Dog", "Wii Music" and "Shaun White Snowboarding". If you're going to sit there and tell me these are things you're super jazzed about, then fine. I sincerely hope you enjoy these games. But don't expect gamers like US to be happy about what is clearly a movement away from the types of games we want. Hell, I don't even care if they have new IPs, as long as the games for the existing ones don't suck. However, they are so few and far between that the Wii rarely gets used in my house.
I wanted to be happy about Animal Crossing until I saw screenshots that looked exactly like the DS version (right down to the furniture sets) only with four players on the screen. Clearly, the largely inferior (compared to the GC version) DS version is being shoehorned onto the Wii and I'm supposed to be excited because Nintendo finally stepped into the current console generation and told me I can voice chat? I'm not asking for much. I just wanted ONE thing to be enthusiastic about. Orcist and everyone else thinking I should be happy about things like "Wii Sports Resort" clearly don't share my taste in video games, or are totally in denial.
To be perfectly honest, I can understand why they are doing this. After being totally wasted by Sony in the previous generation, they must feel like they need something new in order to stay in the running. Still, It does piss me off that they are ignoring hardcore nintendophiles like myself to some degree (although I love Animal Crossing). I have to refer to the "is the wii a novelty" discussion, where somebody (i don't remember who) said that the gaming market is very diverse now. The wii does not have as many hardcore games on it, so I don't really expect as much in that vein from them right now, other then a few gems like Metroid prime 3 and no more heroes.
Also, @ gamesronlygames, isn't that what E3 has sort of become to a lot of people? more a big conference for the press and the shareholders, rather than a conference for the gamers?
Also, @ gamesronlygames, isn't that what E3 has sort of become to a lot of people? more a big conference for the press and the shareholders, rather than a conference for the gamers?
"Its funny that the third party devs are giving the Wii better games than first parts."
So very, very true. Just look at Madworld, the Dead Rising port, and a possible No More Heroes sequel.
Well, maybe third party developers will starting producing for the Wii, so they can target the audience that Nintendo is obviously ignoring.
So very, very true. Just look at Madworld, the Dead Rising port, and a possible No More Heroes sequel.
Well, maybe third party developers will starting producing for the Wii, so they can target the audience that Nintendo is obviously ignoring.
I'm not shaving again until everyone realizes that we're a very small demographic and that it's hardly ever in a companies interests to cater to the type of people that read blogs.
@ Rockvillian : Yeah we are never satisfied if you replace shovelware with mario on it with worst, crappier MOTHERFUCKING SHOVELWARE.
What the hell did you expect nintendo to bring? its going to be more expensive peripherals, more gimmicks, and same N64 graphics + little kids/old people/people who dont normally play games gameplay style.
There is your CORE.
@Orcist
Personally, I am well aware of that fact. I know that I am less than a blip on the radar to Nintendo, and that in the grand scheme of things, people like me do not matter to them. If I didn't know that already, it's abundantly clear now. However, that'll never stop me from expressing my opinion on a blog or anywhere else for that matter. I'm not bashing anyone, I'm simply saying that I want something from Nintendo that they used to deliver, and now they aren't really doing that anymore.
I'm not part of this, "I want it all and I want it now" crowd either. I have been very patient. Frankly all I want is one great thing a year to be excited about, and really it looks like this year is a great big bomb for me on the Wii. I'm going to be busy on my 360 this year, I can tell you that, and next year too, from the looks of it. I just want a fraction of that goodness for the Wii. I don't think it's too much to ask.
As I said in the comments of the "Wii a Novelty?" article, Nitnendo still has time to put things out that'll make people like me happy, but it's clear they think we should be happy with announcements like this, which is why I'm complaining in the first place :)
Personally, I am well aware of that fact. I know that I am less than a blip on the radar to Nintendo, and that in the grand scheme of things, people like me do not matter to them. If I didn't know that already, it's abundantly clear now. However, that'll never stop me from expressing my opinion on a blog or anywhere else for that matter. I'm not bashing anyone, I'm simply saying that I want something from Nintendo that they used to deliver, and now they aren't really doing that anymore.
I'm not part of this, "I want it all and I want it now" crowd either. I have been very patient. Frankly all I want is one great thing a year to be excited about, and really it looks like this year is a great big bomb for me on the Wii. I'm going to be busy on my 360 this year, I can tell you that, and next year too, from the looks of it. I just want a fraction of that goodness for the Wii. I don't think it's too much to ask.
As I said in the comments of the "Wii a Novelty?" article, Nitnendo still has time to put things out that'll make people like me happy, but it's clear they think we should be happy with announcements like this, which is why I'm complaining in the first place :)
I agree with Orcist y'all - he's right, we are a very small and 'special' demographic.
I was expecting status quo from every company and that's exactly what I got.
Meh. I'm still waiting for a better reason to buy a current-gen console I'm afraid, and this is someone who had multiple consoles up until 360/ps3/wii. I guess my DS and PC are going to have to handle the gaming load for the foreseeable future. FUCK
I was expecting status quo from every company and that's exactly what I got.
Meh. I'm still waiting for a better reason to buy a current-gen console I'm afraid, and this is someone who had multiple consoles up until 360/ps3/wii. I guess my DS and PC are going to have to handle the gaming load for the foreseeable future. FUCK
I'll get Nintendo's back in many situations, but this was painful. Yes, the new Wii sports looks like fun. But their big announcement was a music sim? Not even a game (as games have goals)?! Maybe if I was an Animal Crossing fan I'd be less disappointed. Bad form, Nintendo.
Oddly enough, the games I'm looking forward to most right now are all 3rd party. On a Nintendo machine! Anyone else surprised at that? Conduit, Mushroom Men, Mad World, Dead Rising, etc...
Oddly enough, the games I'm looking forward to most right now are all 3rd party. On a Nintendo machine! Anyone else surprised at that? Conduit, Mushroom Men, Mad World, Dead Rising, etc...
@Mister Disco -- I don't mean to imply that we should be happy with Nintendo's announcements. There's nothing here that interests me at all. But all this ire, rage, and misanthropy seems a bit misplaced and it's getting a bit old. It just seems like we're all being a bit self-centered here.
Orcist
Sony & MS are giving us tons of games that cater to us.
Its going to be real hard to defend Nintendo at this point in time.
Sony & MS are giving us tons of games that cater to us.
Its going to be real hard to defend Nintendo at this point in time.
Not only can I stroke my Wiimote but now I get to stick it in my mouth and blow on it? Sorry, Reggie, that might excite you, not me.
Ive been holding out hope for the Wii for a while but their media briefing has pushed me over the edge. FUCK NINTENDO! Watching that press conference was like listening to a Celine Dion album. So terrible it makes you feel sick to your stomach but you know your mom would think its just dandy. They dont make games for me anymore.
@Orcist
I'm not mad at Nintendo. I'm disappointed. Saddened. I've been behind the Wii from day 1, and lately it's done nothing but disappoint me. The things I want are just not being delivered. I'm not expecting them to be, either. But, I am hoping. Hoping for something, anything resembling the Nintendo of old that I grew up with and so devoutly followed.
Is it sad? Am I sad? A relic of the past, perhaps? A lone Metroid fan clinging to the rocks in the storm, when everyone else sees nothing but calm seas and "blue ocean"? Maybe. Probably.
It's just not in my nature to take things quietly and be passed over. Blogs give us a chance to speak out, even if what comes out is sometimes unintelligible. I'll never stop speaking out, either. I'm sorry if it gets old to you, but hey... I'm glad you're cool with it. I don't think it's self-centered to want to be excited, happy, or enthusiastic about Nintendo's upcoming titles and coming away disappointed.
I'm not mad at Nintendo. I'm disappointed. Saddened. I've been behind the Wii from day 1, and lately it's done nothing but disappoint me. The things I want are just not being delivered. I'm not expecting them to be, either. But, I am hoping. Hoping for something, anything resembling the Nintendo of old that I grew up with and so devoutly followed.
Is it sad? Am I sad? A relic of the past, perhaps? A lone Metroid fan clinging to the rocks in the storm, when everyone else sees nothing but calm seas and "blue ocean"? Maybe. Probably.
It's just not in my nature to take things quietly and be passed over. Blogs give us a chance to speak out, even if what comes out is sometimes unintelligible. I'll never stop speaking out, either. I'm sorry if it gets old to you, but hey... I'm glad you're cool with it. I don't think it's self-centered to want to be excited, happy, or enthusiastic about Nintendo's upcoming titles and coming away disappointed.
Add me to the list of disappointed. Iwata said in his part about how they were catering to both crowds. Yesterday, I didn't see that at all. They were catering to the new crowd of folks. The people who buy a Wii for Wiisports and Wii[insert anything here]. Soccer moms and grandparents and people who are not Destructoid readers.
I was hopeful that they would show something this year that would appeal to me. They sort of did with Call of Duty and GTA for DS, but they technically only showed the box of GTADS. And, it's hard to be impressed by yet another CoD game. Why not show that Black and White fighting game to get the blood flowing in the hardcore audience? It's Wii-exclusive right?
I think they stopped trying to appeal to "gamers" and have just gone for the soccer mom market. Can you blame them though?
I was hopeful that they would show something this year that would appeal to me. They sort of did with Call of Duty and GTA for DS, but they technically only showed the box of GTADS. And, it's hard to be impressed by yet another CoD game. Why not show that Black and White fighting game to get the blood flowing in the hardcore audience? It's Wii-exclusive right?
I think they stopped trying to appeal to "gamers" and have just gone for the soccer mom market. Can you blame them though?
@Mister Disco: Actually, voice chat was available LAST console generation. Nintendo only just got around to it. Which is even more appalling.
(Not to mention the fact their "solution" allows for everyone in the damn room to talk. That's brilliant, now when someone walks in and asks what's going on and you hold a conversation with them everyone you're playing with will hear it. THAT won't get aggravating any time soon.)
(Not to mention the fact their "solution" allows for everyone in the damn room to talk. That's brilliant, now when someone walks in and asks what's going on and you hold a conversation with them everyone you're playing with will hear it. THAT won't get aggravating any time soon.)
@Mister Disco -- point conceded. But there's a difference between "I'm disappointed because none of Nintendo's announcements appeal to me" and "Fuck Nintendo," as if Miyamoto has personally insulted someone. Eloquence and a clear head go a long way as far as intelligent discussions go.
@Jack -- I'm not trying to "defend" Nintendo. I'm just saying that all this rage is unwarranted.
@Jack -- I'm not trying to "defend" Nintendo. I'm just saying that all this rage is unwarranted.
Wow, there are a lot of whiners here. Animal Crossing is always awesome. GTA on DS could be awesome. Wii Sports Resort and Wii Music could be really good if done right. Nintendo didn't announce it themselves, but SEGA's coming out with Madworld and that's about as violent as could be, if that's your bag. There's a ton of stuff already slated to come out this year. Stop crying, everybody.
One of the worst things about all of this Nintendo hate is that TGS is gonna roll around, they'll announce one (maybe two) of these supposed "hardcore" titles (F-Zero or Metroid or Zelda or something along those lines) and ALL OF A SUDDEN everyone's going to love Nintendo for "listening" to them. In three seconds everyone who claims they hate them will totally forgive them and lap up every bit of news and coverage like a thirsty puppy dog and all will be forgiven.
Well guess what, I won't be one of them. I still have a sealed copy of Zelda: TP that I never plan on playing just to spite Nintendo. They are fucking losing site of their fans needs and catering to a demographic which, in the long run, will not support them.
All it will take will be a slick new Apple game device or what have you and all the new "casual" Wii adopters will immediately jump ship and switch brand allegiance (if they ever had any to begin with). All the while, the "core" Big N fans will (hopefully) have had some fucking sense and self-worth and left them, too.
I've never been a hardcore Nintendo fan, but I am not purchasing another game for my Wii ever again. And if I do, it will be used, just to spite them even further.
Fuck them.
Well guess what, I won't be one of them. I still have a sealed copy of Zelda: TP that I never plan on playing just to spite Nintendo. They are fucking losing site of their fans needs and catering to a demographic which, in the long run, will not support them.
All it will take will be a slick new Apple game device or what have you and all the new "casual" Wii adopters will immediately jump ship and switch brand allegiance (if they ever had any to begin with). All the while, the "core" Big N fans will (hopefully) have had some fucking sense and self-worth and left them, too.
I've never been a hardcore Nintendo fan, but I am not purchasing another game for my Wii ever again. And if I do, it will be used, just to spite them even further.
Fuck them.
@B-Radicate
If they actually do something that manages to please the "hardcore" community like us, i dont see why we shoudn't be happy with Nintendo again. Although, if they think that Animal Crossing is, like extremly hardcore, i jus't cant see it happening.
Oh, and play LoZ:TP, it's a nice game.
If they actually do something that manages to please the "hardcore" community like us, i dont see why we shoudn't be happy with Nintendo again. Although, if they think that Animal Crossing is, like extremly hardcore, i jus't cant see it happening.
Oh, and play LoZ:TP, it's a nice game.
I think people are extra annoyed because the first-party software seems to have dried up and we were looking to E3 for our next fix. They've been so quiet, I was expecting announcements of AAA titles that were right around the corner. Besides Animal Crossing.
I guess Nintendo is planning on selling a lot of WiiFit this holiday. Right now, the only Nintendo title I'm looking forward to is... Warioland?!
Too bad they're not even releasing MotionPlus until next year. Would've made a great stocking stuffer.
At least Capcom is stepping up with Dead Rising. It'll be interesting to see how they port it down to the Wii.
I guess Nintendo is planning on selling a lot of WiiFit this holiday. Right now, the only Nintendo title I'm looking forward to is... Warioland?!
Too bad they're not even releasing MotionPlus until next year. Would've made a great stocking stuffer.
At least Capcom is stepping up with Dead Rising. It'll be interesting to see how they port it down to the Wii.
@Reclusive spirit
"I would just be echoing what has already been said in here. Believe it or not, but I prefer my Gamecube collection of games to what I've seen for the Wii so far. "
I agree completely-I feel the same way about the PS2-I have a PS3 but use it mainly to play the great PS2 titles
What the heck happened in the last few years-think about it Persona 3 and 4 -some of the best games are on the PS2
The 360 ahs had a few great games-that is it for next gen if you ask me
THESE GAME MAKERS NEED TO STEP UP!
"I would just be echoing what has already been said in here. Believe it or not, but I prefer my Gamecube collection of games to what I've seen for the Wii so far. "
I agree completely-I feel the same way about the PS2-I have a PS3 but use it mainly to play the great PS2 titles
What the heck happened in the last few years-think about it Persona 3 and 4 -some of the best games are on the PS2
The 360 ahs had a few great games-that is it for next gen if you ask me
THESE GAME MAKERS NEED TO STEP UP!
are you guys not excited about the fact that they are going to have actual motion sensing now instead of some cheap ir receiver? you know, what they promised when they announced the wii that everyone threw a fit over?
Yea, I just don't think Geeks and Otaku will wait for the Tokio Game Show for the "hardcore" games anyway.To me in fact those are geeks and otaku than can see the condescending disdain that Nintendo shows them and are in denial saying "No, its not possible, wai...wait..........Toykio Games show! yea Nintendo won't....won't do this...for long!"
B-Radicate "I still have a sealed copy of Zelda: TP that I never plan on playing just to spite Nintendo."
You already gave Nintendo your money, and are now denying yourself a great gaming experience. Why to show them who's boss.
It was disappointing, yes, but they'll of course have big franchise announcements sometime this year. They can't afford not to. And in the meantime it actually gives 3rd parties the chance to step up and cater to the core gamers that are complaining. (Mad World looks amazing) People are always griping about lack of 3rd party support, but right now they seem to be bringing everything Nintendon't.
You already gave Nintendo your money, and are now denying yourself a great gaming experience. Why to show them who's boss.
It was disappointing, yes, but they'll of course have big franchise announcements sometime this year. They can't afford not to. And in the meantime it actually gives 3rd parties the chance to step up and cater to the core gamers that are complaining. (Mad World looks amazing) People are always griping about lack of 3rd party support, but right now they seem to be bringing everything Nintendon't.
Orcist
It feels like Nintendo has stabbed us in the back. MS & Sony provide us with Fable 2, Fallout 3, Soul Caliber 4, MGS4, GoW2, GOW3, LBP, FF and much much more, but its ok for Nintendo to say, "heres Wii Music and Animal Crossing" & "We have other games in development, but we wont show those, those are not important"?
It feels like Nintendo has stabbed us in the back. MS & Sony provide us with Fable 2, Fallout 3, Soul Caliber 4, MGS4, GoW2, GOW3, LBP, FF and much much more, but its ok for Nintendo to say, "heres Wii Music and Animal Crossing" & "We have other games in development, but we wont show those, those are not important"?
Nothing that Nintendo actually showed of gameplay was at all what I would play. I am interested in GTA on the DS, but only slightly, and we weren't shown any of that. Otherwise, Nintendo failed to deliver anything to this gamer that would make me want to buy a Wii or make me happy to have purchased a DS.
Honestly, third-party vendors are pretty much carrying the Nintendo this year at E3 and with the games that I love to play on the DS.
Honestly, third-party vendors are pretty much carrying the Nintendo this year at E3 and with the games that I love to play on the DS.
I feel especially bad for JACK, being stabbed in the back like that. We all know what a die-hard Nintendo fanboy he is :)
I personally find this amusing, I have a Wii and I havent played it in at least 5 months or so, cant remember the last time I even updated it. I gotta say I hated TP, it was boring and lacked all the things I thought made Ocarina great. Anyway, this E3 definitely wont have me in a hurry to fire up this white POS any time soon, its got so much dust on it some of it wont even come off.
Hopefully they'll do something like last year and show a trailer on the last day or whatever..
Animal Crossing is not 'hardcore', its like GTA without a story.
Animal Crossing is not 'hardcore', its like GTA without a story.
The games were disappointing, but I have to admit the additional sensitivity for the Wiimote looks very promising, even if it's just what I was expecting back when the controller first came out.
I'm just stunned by how badly they fucked this up. Even at launch, which was weak, they had three times as many games, and they weren't showing off only Western games (a sign of desperation coming from a Japanese country) like they did yesterday. They bring out Motion Plus, which has amazing potential, and show nothing but Wii Sports Resort. Animal Crossing is cool, but come on, it's not supposed to be your biggest game, Nintendo! And now they say that we're wrong to complain. Does that mean we have no SSBB-style surprise to look forward to. If the Zelda and Mario people are working, great, but Nintendo has already starved us of classic franchises for a year. Unbelievable. I hoped Nintendo wouldn't get complacent after getting rich.
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