I don't ever like to be too harsh with my opinion, but Wii Music looks like vapid trash. Hey, I could be wrong, but I get a kind of vapid trash-esque vibe from it somehow that I just can't seem to shake. Design legend Shigeru Miyamoto knows more about it than I do, however, and has stated that his new pantomime horse is "more interesting than a videogame."
MTV's Stephen Totilo got the word from the man himself:
At a Nintendo developer’s roundtable event this evening in Los Angeles, a German journalist asked Nintendo designer Shigeru Miyamoto if it would be more appropriate to call “Wii Music,” which lacks goals and points, a” toy” rather than a “video game.”
Miyamoto replied tersely: “Yes, that’s right. And that’s why it’s more interesting than a video game.”
I hadn’t seen that side of Miyamoto before! Could it be — in this case as in so many before — that he’s right? Are we too hung up on traditional video game constraints to appreciate something more free-form?
Maybe I was wrong. Maybe moving my hand around to such epic tunes as Yankee Doodle Dandy and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star is actually a fascinating and rewarding experience. We all saw Miyamoto's little face at the Nintendo press conference, he was loving it. Either way, Wii Music is going to make millions of dollars on name value alone, no matter how worthwhile it actually is. Kind of like Paris Hilton.
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7:14 AM on 07.17.2008
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...Or Guitar Hero, or Rock Band. >.>
...probably why we're not getting an external storage device any time soon. as mattynunchuks said, those of us that frequent Destructoid are no longer Nintendo's target audience.
What happened to Kid Icarus? That should've been the big reveal.
On the bright side, hopefully we can get a few decent third party games every year.
But this piece of shit. This can't really be for the better in terms of change. Its almost like a step or two backwards imo. Why the fuck can't Miyamoto come up with a new vein of Zelda games. One that focuses on plot with entirely new characters, enemies, and setting with next to no relation to any of the previous Zelda games. In fact, why not come up with something entirely new? Was Zelda, Mario and Metroid the best he could think of? Or has he and Nintendo pretty much just stopped trying.
Why the fuck isn't Nintendo throwing money at people like the creator of Cave Story? Thats the kind of new thinking and new game they need. Can you imagine if the creator of Cave Story got together with Miyamoto and they had a brainchild together and released it on the Wii? *sigh*
I agree, its not a game, but its definatly heading in that previous direction of Mario Paint on SNES and Music on the PSX, no one complained then, forget your manual music based games like GH and RB.
I actually think; Its quite a good idea.
Its not sold a Wii to me, but I can imagine this being a lot of fun with friends and family which is what sells. Much better than just ripping off peoples previously explored ideas.
I don't think this is a changed Miyamoto we're seeing. I don't remember Miyamoto ever being a champion of gaming as a lifestyle or hardcore hobby. The Wii and the expanded market have afforded him the chance to developer outside of the box. Pandering to us, frankly, is pretty limiting. And considering how much people shat on the last Zelda, and how much people freaked out when the concept of cell-shaded Zelda was exposed, can you blame the man for not having some faux loyalty to us fickle gits?
There plenty I'd like to for Nintendo to do differently, for sure. But it feels now like an actor's movie role cycle. WiiNotVideoGame is the fluff flick that pays the bills, and Zelda/core Mario/Pikmin is the art flick that garners the actor some respect and feeds the soul. Or vise verse, from the "casual" perspective.
I see what you did there, spelling his name wrong to get back at him. You sly sly devil you.
When the Casuals are gone to other things, the "Core" may not be there.
"Shigeru Miyamoto if it would be more appropriate to call “Wii Music,” which lacks goals and points, a” toy” rather than a “video game.”
Miyamoto replied tersely: “Yes, that’s right. And that’s why it’s more interesting than a video game.”
Now I can't believe this asshole would say this. If it wasn't for videogames he would be fucking no where. Oh, and I would rather play a video game than a action figure.
Plus, even though some of the first party games are poop, 3rd party, and other first party games are still awesome. Simply because nintendo releases one game that is geared towards kids, doesn't mean the rest are.
Plus, how can you deny RAVI DRUMZZZZ! :(
Also, that stab at Paris Hilton was completely uncalled for. She is a very respectable women; I can't believe you would talk about her like that.
...I tried
It's gonna sell a billion copies.
@trailerparkjesus: My thoughts exactly.
I think the dude is just going senile.
Yes, Wii Music looks like crap. I'm not here to defend the game. I'm here to say that Wii Fit and Wii Music do not undo everything Miyamoto has done, nor does it turn Nintendo into "we hate core gamers". They are in the business of making money. So is Microsoft. So is Sony. Nintendo did open the door to people who didn't game before, that much is true. In fact they've done it twice, and we were just the first time.
Mario Paint is one of the most well-respected games of all time. Yet, we can't see that these "Wii (insert word here)" are the same thing for these new gamers? Mario Paint was not a game, it was a toy.
I understand people being upset about this, especially because it was the centerpiece of their conference, but I feel was as gamers have lost our minds and been spoiled rotten to the point that if we don't get what we want, we will demand drastic changes be made. Whether that is selling our consoles because of a bad E3 conference or asking for Miyamoto to be fired from Nintendo (I have seen both stated outside of Destructoid), there is something wrong here. And "our tastes have changed" does not describe it.
"I’m trying to find some time to post my impressions of “Wii Music,” the newly announced Wii game that you can’t lose and that didn’t seem to go over with the E3 press corps as well as “Wii Sports” or “Wii Fit.” My short take: I liked it better after I played it today."
Who knows? Maybe we will, too.
I don't doubt that this game will sell, but I have doubts that it will be as successful as Wii Fit was.
To be fair, in Mario Paint the draw was that you were creating something. From what I've seen of Wii Music, you do little more than wave the controllers around in time to the music. If that's your cup of tea, more power to ya.
Rawr rawr rawr
Think about it... it's rather perplexing that Nintendo didn't discuss a lot of the games that we're hearing about *now* that really do appeal to us in their conference... but we still heard about them, didn't we?
That conference was for the people that don't constantly wander around gaming blogs looking for the most up-to-date information on the latest games. It was, indeed, for the people that Wii Music is going to mostly appeal to... and we, generally, aren't those people. So, I reckon they felt that they really had to get the word out on something like that right then and there.
To me, their conference was disappointing... but in no way was it shocking. As for E3, on a whole, I see a lot to look forward to from Nintendo, personally.
Also,
Fap fap fap fap fap fap halo fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
I really don't see what their strategy is since they're banking on a fad market that isn't likely (and definitely not guaranteed) to upgrade to the next console in a few years and doesn't really buy any software.
LOL @ Grim and his awesome picture of Wii Seizures
I don't see why people wouldn't upgrade in a few years. The "casual" movement has been brewing for years now. If Nintendo can deliver at the same price point (One of the huge factors of the Wii's success, imo) then its probably got a good chance of maintaining great console sales.
And for a console that's always made them profit, from day one, why worry much about medium software sales?
no.
True they were always family oriented, but they used to be in the business of making GAMES, even if they were for the whole family they were still games. Now they are just bitter about their failures and are burning bridges down with this shit.
Godspeed Nintendo, you will not to well as a toy maker even if present success seems to indicate you will.