3:58 PM on 07.15.2008
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The dust has barely settled but we're already hesitant to know: Who will the Destructoid Community choose as their favorite presenter at this year's E3? Someone is definitely going to sell more units than the other guy and we're curious to know who's new products caught your eye, which products made you vomit, and at which point you fell asleep head-first on your keyboard. Cast your vote in the poll above and hit the comments to sound off: Who's most likely to claim your future holiday spending money?
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This year is not about who won, but about who lost the least.
While I only have a PS3 and a Wii, and as much as I hate to admit it, Microsoft clearly won
im surprised at how many think ms won
We'll see on the Tokyo Game Show. This was bollocks.
Between the two press events this year, Sony beat Microsoft. What Nintendo had doesn't deserve to be called a press event at all. It was just a conference call without the phones.
Microsoft>Sony>Nintendo IMO.
At first i'd have called MS and Sony about equal but i think the FFXIII thing pushed MS into the lead.
Also, while i don't think Nintendo's conference was bad, it was in dire need of some franchise announcements and atleast a new zelda teaser trailer.
Still, it wasn't a terrible E3. I think last years was much more disappointing.
None of them were "OMFG AMAZING", but MS's conference interested me the most.
This was a total let-down from start to finish. MS didn't show me shit that makes me want to support them anymore then I already do, Nintendo destroyed my childhood, and Sony was just kind of meh. But at least they showed some God of War 3 love.
Still, this all kind of sucked. It was almost.....anticlimactic.
LOL..what NihonTiger said.
I think Sony, and MS are pretty even, both adding movie/tv services. Both showing some form of existing IP's, and each showing a new game.
Nintendo, it's like they dont want me to buy there system. I mean GTA for ds is one thing I didnt see coming, but I can't bring myself to finsh IV.
If Microsoft had made FF13 a 360 exclusive they would've taken it, but they were way too reliant on multi-platform games and their next dashboard update. Sony had a much bigger focus on their exclusives and had way more of them.
Microsoft without a doubt
Microsoft. I'm no MS fanboy, but wow did that FFXIII cause a lot of hilarious internet drama.
Nintendo let me down.
Sony spent more time on multimedia than on games. Surprise surprise.
MS wasn't awesome, but their keynote and the resulting hilarity definitely makes them the winner.
Microsoft and Sony were pretty even. With the FF13 announcement for Microsoft and the God of War III announcement for Sony, it's tough to decide. Now Nintendo on the other hand...they are a whole different subject.
Square is the winner.
SEGA! SEGA! SEGA!
While all three made a good showing in regards to games, you have to give it to Microsoft for getting FF13: simply blew my mind.
Unfortunately as some have stated before nothing spectular came out this year, but with the dashboard update, hard-drive installs and added features, I'll have to give it to MS, though Sony weren't too far behind, but they had too many pre-rendered trailers IMO.
Highlight so far: Chinatown Wars
Microsoft: FFXIII was a fricken bombshell that washed away bad thoughts of avatars, NXE, and "You're in the Movies." Really good in some places, really bad in others.
Sony: Trailers of games we mostly knew of, little gameplay shown, but the stuff was decent and they didn't through casual shit at us. It was so-so all around.
Nintendo: Disappointment because I still don't know what Reggie's "huge hardcore" title is supposed to be. Animal Crossing? Just because you put one of those games on the Gamecube does not make it hardcore, Nintendo.
I don't care. "Who beat who" is an attitude best left to fanboys thanks. There are a million better ways to pose this quesiton.
Why does someone have to 'win' E3? No offense or anything, but they all did wel- well, Nintendo withstanding.
Microsoft All the Way...
Sony just was bla bla mee godofwariii bla bla multimedia blah blah imissomething? bla blah
Nintendo... I Have to Say Something?
i am the winner. look at all these new games i'm gonna get to play.
People boggle me. Just because they announced FF for the 360 that overrides all and makes MS the better presenter this E3.
This is how I see it. Sony showed off more games that are coming out that catch my attention then MS. MS has FF now, whoopdie... Thats not a breaker for me in the least bit. Sony has more games coming out of interest then MS has at all at this point.
Oh, and no-one lost harder than the triple fail of Guitar Hero/Metallica/Guns and Roses.
I thought I actually saw tumbleweeds during that segment. Really embarassing.
Good call galagabug
I'm giving it to MS because they are the only one who showed anything that was unexpected and cool. FF13 (even though I don't care) and Netflix. I honestly could see Netflix as a system-seller for MS. Especially for those people who have been on the fence. Between the video store and instant netflix, MS has done what we all know is coming, a future where you don't own any physical media.
Thus far, I'm pretty disappointed. MS and Sony spent too much time on multimedia and Nintendo skipped over the games that I'm excited about. I agree that this year is not about winning but about losing less. MS and Sony tied and Nintendo came in last. Had Nintendo spent some time on Rhythm Tengoku and Wario Land, my opinion would be much different.
You guys may hate the XBL Avatars but that's a huge move for them. Unlike the Wii, they are actually going to use the avatars in an interesting way. Online movies, game shows, parties... people like to party.
TOMB RAIDER IS GUNNA WEEEEEN!
FFXIII was the cherry on top that made us all forget the pretty crappy scoop of ice cream that was underneath it. We're giving too much credit to the entire sundae here.
What GC Cobra is true -- clearly, the winner is us. Nevertheless, there's no mistaking that these three companies are constantly in heated competition which is why I think so many of us frame it this way
All of them were pretty terrible.
Microsoft just showed a bunch of trailers for games we already knew about. Their press conference was entirely about stealing FFXIII from Sony and the Netflix announcement.
Nintendo at the very least had the most new, unannounced stuff to show off. Unfortunately most of it wasn't very good. I think the 1:1 motion control from the addon is going to be a big deal down the line though.
Sony was just kind of average. They get points for having the best chart presentation and getting me even more excited about LBP, but overall it was just more trailers of games we already know about and desperately trying to convince people that they still have a lot of exclusive games.
Like others have said, no one really "won", at least from a gamer's perspective. However, it's pretty clear that in terms of playing the media, Nintendo is going to come out on top here. Everything they announced today is going to get gobbled up by mainstream news sources, and that's what's going to be reported on constantly for the next two weeks. It's becoming clearer that E3 isn't about gamers anymore (although maybe it never was), it's about the press. Now that gaming is becoming more mainstream, it's important for the companies to target more mainstream news outlets. Ninty did that successfully, the other companies did not (Although MS's Netflix announcement will likely make a splash).
In terms of what I'm most excited about, it's probably got to be Little Big Planet, Spore, Left 4 Dead, and Animal Crossing. I'm really intrigued by the Wii Sports demo as well, not for the game itself but for the motion control. If it's actually as precise as it appeared to be in the demo, that's going to be huge for the Wii.
In summary: Nintendo wins big with the mainstream media, MS probably interested the core gamers the most, but overall all three were pretty meh.
it looks to me like a tie between sony and MS- it looks like it is pretty much what you would expect- MS came in with quantity of software and sony came in with quality and 1upped MS on hardware- nintendo was nintendo and the wiimote attachment was kind of a lame duck...
Final Fantasy XIII on the 360...nuff said
Nintendo was obviously victorious.
ok not really but I made this thread 1% less cliche!
Mehcrosoft won
Kidtendo was 2nd
Borestation was 3rd
and gamers everywhere lost!
Still waiting for the Halo announcement. Does Bungie steal everyones thunder? Go Bungie!
I don't think anyone was a winner... but I'll vote Nintendo just to see the results.
We lost. Worst e3 in a long time. Prepare for 2009. The worst year in gaming in over a decade...
We as the consumer won!!!!!!
Didn't we?
They were all pretty crappy, they spend too much time talking about history and sales.
Microsoft had the best announcements so I gotta give it to them.
@manasteel88
ONE game taken off of exclusivity on ONE console = Microsoft Win?
Wow, were even you watching that embarrassing section with the webcam and clown pants on Microsoft's conference that caused deadly silence or Duffy being told she can't sing her own song properly on 'Lips'?
Also. Sony had the best marketing talkthrough and interactive bar chart, ever.
And one handed pushups.
MS for the simple fact that FFXIII going multiplatform will get the most press out of anything unveiled at E3 this year. And isn't that the whole point of a "press" conference.
Sony overall, I'd say. Nintendo had like 3 games total, Microsoft proved they could steal from both Nintendo and Sony, be it ideas or games. Sony's was the most entertaining and had the best games overall, FFXIII not withstanding.
But yeah, Microsoft getting FFXIII was a megaton, for sure.
How does Microsoft win this, im sorry. They talked about a new GUI, an avatar ripoff, and Final Fantasy 13. Everything else Microsoft talked about was stuff we've seen for a while leading up to E3.
And plus everybody is shitting bricks about FF13, the 360 version is going to be a lesser quality port of the PS3 version. Anyone with common sense is going to buy the PS3 version of FF13, its the system the game has been built for.
Takeshi is right. E3 isn't what it used to be, and my guess would be most companies are saving their big releases for the Tokyo Game Show.
my vote:
other - we all lost. E3 is a shadow of what it used to be.
that said, MS edged out Sony with their FFXIII shocker and their quality 360 lineup (Gears 2, all the RPGs, etc). if only Sony would have announced/showed off one or two more PS3 titles, they would have won, because i'm way more excited for the PSN than i am for where XBL is headed (fuck avatars).
and Nintendo. LOL. snubbed their hardcore fans once again.
Has it got to the point where we are making fanboy polls on a supposedly hardcore gamers site?
I'm a PS3 owner so I couldn't give a flying fuck about what the 360 is trying to sell me. I'm broke enough as it is, for a start.
As for the FFXIII thing. Who the fuck cares? Last I heard Final Fantasy was wank.
Do you have shares in Sony or Microsoft? If so, ignore this post.
If you don't then wake up and smell the coffee. Just concentrate on actually beating people on games rather than believeing you can rest easier knowing that some silly cunt with a 360 won't be able to sit there and enjoy the mild delights of turn-based ass action/rest easier knowing that some stupid pleb with a PS3 won't be able to get it up tonight because the 360 has taken all that is good from their souls and made it dirty.
It really is pathetic/hilarious that all of these sony fanboys have their feelings hurt by the whole ff13 thing. I just bought a ps3 to join my 360 and my wii, and I will probably get it for the ps3 so that it will be on just one disc. Anyway, lets all calm down everyone. On a side note, how could ANYONE vote for nintendo hahaa. Their presentation was simply god-awful, in my opinion.
I think somebody else mentioned this but suprisingly Sega had better announcements than the big 3 in my opinion. Now if only they could re-enter the console market...Dreamcast 2 please!
Microsoft's "OMG FFXIII" announcement was the only really interesting one, so I give it to them. Nintendo's definitely the big loser, though.
Nintendo probably got boozed up before the show. They didn't even need to show up.
The Wii is giving people orgasms all over the world, you can't preach to the choir.
Microsoft's steal of FFXIII gives them the win, I think. God of War isn't exactly hot-off-the-presses news... but the FFXIII announcement took everyone by surprise.
Nintendo did shit.
E3 lost this year.
That is all.
as a PS3 and final fantasy fanboy, i have to say that microsoft won this E3... overall i guess sony did a much better job, but still, that FFXIII news was huge. i guess congrats to microsoft on securing this? i'm glad that many more people get to enjoy the game now, but damn i hope it truly is a port to the 360 as square enix has said (as in i hope the ps3 version doesn't suffer as a result).
I'm most disappointed at Nintendo. They seemed to have forgotten who made them in the first place...
Without the hardcore fans, they'd have lost the early console wars to SEGA. Instead of awesome games like a new Metroid or Zelda or even F-Zero...we get more software pretending to be games like another Wii Sports and Wii Music.
Animal Crossing is gonna be awesome but ONE game doesn't make things right.
Seriously?
Microsoft.
EA
I was disappointed from Sony's because I simply expected more.
I was excited about MS's because I expected less.
Nintendo revealed that the Wiimote up until now was substandard and not accurate enough by releasing yet ANOTHER peripheral/attachment halfway through its lifecycle. Too little, too late, Ninty.
MS won.
Microsoft only for the live demos.
MS shoulda jumped onstage during the sony presentation and started rapping "SONY TELL ME HOW MY ASS TASTE"
and nintendo just said "fk it. we don't need to do shxt this year and made it rain on the audience"
MS won this year.
Nintendo showed me something, themselves, that I'm more excited about than anything Microsoft or Sony presented.
1:1 motion control.
There's no time limit for enjoying cool technology applied to games. I was excited when I thought the Wii could do it out of the box, and I'm more excited now that I've seen it working.
If nintendo can make the Wiimote feel even more intuitive, then I'm all for it.
However, FFXIII for the 360 is just huge for me personally. :)
I'm leaning towards giving my vote to MS, but at the same time, you have to keep in mind that their biggest announcement was a non-exclusive title. When the best thing you've got is "Hey, we have what the other guy has!" did you really win?
I'm not saying the other guys had anything huge that gives the vote to them... but at least they were announcing new, exclusive stuff like Carrot Top Snowboarding and MAG.
I think in the end I'll have to abstain from the vote. E3 just isn't what it used to be...
Microsoft were the only ones that surprised me with something good. Nintendo showed some Mii related bollox and Sony had a cool LBP thing for their sales figures etc. Other than that it was pretty terrible for the big 3.
Still at least I got some Fallout 3 footage and Dead Space also looks awesome.
Harmonix wins. Activision is done for.
Seriously though, I voted MS, but Sony gave a better showing than I expected. FF13 isn't a huge deal to me like it seems to be for a lot of people and the Live avatars seem Mii-ish and aren't very intriguing. But a lot of the other stuff was big to me: added support for resolutions (I play on a 16:10 monitor, this has been a long time in coming!), a cohesive party mode and group chat that persists through games and the dashboard, and hard-drive storage (because disc-swapping is hella annoying, but how will this work for rentals). I will also put the Netflix support to good use, although I'm not really sure how many people other than myself actually subscribe to the service and will find this feature useful.
"Sony had the best marketing talkthrough and interactive bar chart, ever"
If that's what is considered great at e3 now I'd say we all lost. Wow, what a kick ass bar chart!
To Tokyo!
Personally I enjoyed the MS one a lot more. The sony one to me wasn't very intresting. GoW3 was a given, Loco Roco 2 was a given. Them adding movies to their online was a given. I don't really see the great shock I was ready for. MS wins only because it had PRESS. It saved a giant shocker for the last, hence why it IMO wins. Sony did a good job, Nintendo did bad. But overall I'm more excitied for what the 360 has shown me.
@xerus.
That.
There is no doubt that MS won. There was, unfortunately, nothing from sony. Everything "announced" was already known well in advance apart from the LBP date. Microsoft, however, stole all the thunder this year with the FFXIII announcement.
All in all though I found what they have shown so far a complete let down. There were no real new and exciting IPs for us to salivate over. I am hoping the TGS or PAX or Leipzig will be able to shake things up a little bit.
Who wins?
I honestly don't give a flying fuck, fuck all this 'win' crap.
Who lost?
E3, sadly. I remembered what E3 used to be, *sigh*
Whether one was a fan of MS or not they took this E3 with the FFXIII announcement. It didn't matter that it wasn't exclusive to the 360 the fact that its even being released on the 360 surprised everyone.
Yes, Sony had exclusives but most were in-house titles instead of third-party exclusives. So, unless Sony is going on a buying spree buying small developers here and there then the FFXIII news could be a prediction of what the future holds for past Sony exclusives like MGS. Also, no release date for LBP and Home didn't help Sony any. Sometimes patience is a good thing for a fas-base to have but too much delays can sometimes create a backlash or raise people's expectations for those two products that they fail to reach it.
Sony? I literally almost fell asleep.
Microsoft didn't really have any news exclusively except for Banjo-Kazooie on XBLA... which they didn't even bother going into detail on. They just said "Game A exists. kthxbai."
Nintendo, they had Wii Sports Resort, which looks like it won't suck (100% thanks to sword fights) and Animal Crossing. Which unfortunately looks to be just another port.
VERY boring year. I say Nintendo, cuz Animal Crossing is awesome. Microsoft comes in second for letting me stare at RE4 longer than those jerks at Sony did.
If MS hadn't announced Geometry Wars 2 and Galaga Legions, I'd put their announcements right above Nintendo's. I felt Sony had the most substance to their conference. Nintendo shouldn't have shown up. Having a soccer mom explain how women can't snowboard then have Miyamoto and some stoner drummer fuck screw up the Mario theme song is just horribly blasphemous.
Nintendo's was enjoyable, if only for going REGGIE!! every time he came on screen.
Both IRL and IRC.
Won is just a number man.
Hard to decide between Sony and MicroSoft. If I had to choose, I'd go Sony because they showed the most 'new' games, though mostly just trailers.
As far as who will sell more consoles, more than likely Wii with 360 and PS3 coming in very close to one another. 360 will still dominate in game sales because that's where people play online, have their friends, and have almost two years worth of achievements (aka ePeen measurement). I think this will be a solid year, and next, for PS3, but they need to come up with some remarkable stuff than what they've shown so far to get up to 360, let alone think of overtaking them. Oh, and PS3 will remain the #1 Blu-ray player :p
I went in as an owner of all three systems, having just recently gotten a 360 and I was pretty let down over all.
I was the most excited about Nintendo and the most let down by them. Wii Band Camp? What?
I thought the MS thing was pretty boring. Having used Netflix Instant View on the PC, I know how let down people are going to be when they actually see the selection and how crappy the "free" movies are. I cancelled my account with them a couple months back because they never got any new "Instant Watch" movies, it was just the same old crap. The whole thing about stealing Sony's Exclusive, well, I was gonna by it for PS3 anyway because that's the system it was made for. So no points for that either.
Sony was the most surprising as I thought they would have the worst presentation and in my opinion had the best. Grant it, they didn't steal any exclusives and then hoot and beat their chests, but they did have some pretty good games to show off. That awesome leviathon battle was badass and that game where you could have like 256 people, man that looked crazy good. Plus God of War looks SWEET. And I am just totally excited for little big planet and home.
So in the end I was looking forward to great stuff about all three systems and I was really only happy with what Sony had to say. So they win.
I picked MS, but iut was still really, really dull.
Had Nintendo jacked the mic during the FFXIII announcement and said "N