Dyack: Hating Valkyrie cinema means you love Too Human

I'm starting to get sick of the Dennis Dyack news.

Is it really that slow of a news week? Who cares what this guy has to say anymore?

It bugged me at first but after I got better at combat and using advanced moves (like fierce and finishers) I found I stopped dying for the most part. Well that and the sweet epic set I'm wearing right now.

Hating the Valkyrie cinema doesn't mean you love Too Human, it means that you hate stupid design decisions.

That has to be the worst justification I have ever heard for anything in my entire life.

It's 15 fucking seconds. Grab a drink....jeeeez

Better yet....don't die. (Died 3 times in 2nd level on my second playthrough, so just take the time to learn how the effing game works.)

People were moaning about 'no death penalty' now they moan about the death penalty.

Uhm.....WHAT DO YOU WANT?

WoW...you can die 10 minutes away from the effing graveyard.

Some games you have to walk back to your corpse....BUTT NAKED!


Some games remove hard earned XP (Titan Quest, among others)

Some games have entire level reloads that are longer than 15 seconds.

Some fucking games ask you to insert a quarter.

Here, you are penalized 15 seconds with no loot or possible XP gain.

What is it these days? As soon as a game forces you to figure things out or throws a challenge your way you all get up in arms about it?

Why don't you all revile MEga Man or the Ninja Gaiden series? I mean, those are hard? Right?

I guess you are the same type of people that require safety warnings on hot beverages?

You need a warning written on knives that says: 'Do not move knife over skin, it may get cut'

I'm really really really starting to hate gamers...

@SnakeDude4Life

"dyack just needs to learn want cool is?"

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I am not defending Too Human, but the 15 second death sequence is alot more palatable than having to hike it back from a checkpoint or reload a save game, and alot quicker, too.

However, now that I have said that, anything that is frustrating to the player should ideally be removed. Games are entertainment, and if you aren't being entertained, then the game is failing at its purpose.

I thought we left annoying punishments behind us when we left the 8 bit era.

I gotta admit, that's pretty funny.

What he (AD) said.

I'm surprised he didn't make a remark to the effect of, "Well, if lots of people are complaining then a lot of people bought it. Suck it reviews!"

What an ass.

10 seconds, its supposed to be a penalty, its a bigger penalty in co-op as your friend is all alone for that time.

If you can't handle 10 seconds then maybe you should just never play a game again, I should have known the sheeptoids would hate the game without even playing it.

@Sharpless

Every game on the planet has something that annoys people, even the games considered that are the considered great, I'll use MGS3 as an example, great game, great story, even the most ardent fanboys hate the clunky menu system.

Or Half Life, the FPS most PC fans call their god, even the biggest fanboy says the final areas sucked.

So if you write off game based solely on "annoying gameplay mechanic" perhaps you should just sell your consoles and not play anything ever again.

Too Human is a fun game, its not perfect but what is? Great co-op, awesome armor designs and 5 classes which you can evolve in 3 different ways and don't even get me started or human or cybernetic aligment.

Rent the full game you pathetic sheeple, maybe you'll actually like it.

"Denis Dyack, you are an idiot. Let me just make myself clear about what I mean when I say that: You're an idiot"

Sharpless I think youre an idiot.

On another note. At first the scene bothered me but I happen to agree with Dennis here. I mean, it really isnt that long first of all. Second, it gives you a chance to make a quick change if you need to.

This game doesnt punish you much for death and if you respawned the second you die you could basically play without any fear of death in the game. That might take away from the sense of accomplishment which in turn would make the game worse.


Also to the fella who wrote this post, it seems like because you didnt like the game, you are using your position to say some pretty irresponsible things about it. What you said bothered me, because I would think if you didnt like the game, you might keep it to yourself or get into it in a more appropriate place. Spewing out your negative opinion on the front page seems uncalled for. I guess it is just cool to knock this game.

I enjoyed the demo, but this cinematic was a bit repetitive.

Then again, I'm all about games having penalties for failure. It's the only way anyone bothers to learn how to play, instead of throwing themselves into battle and mashing all the buttons.

Whether it be time taken for the cinematic sequence to play, or XP loss, or whatever, the player needs that bit of motivation to improve. It's a vital component of games, sadly lacking in many modern releases.

I can't speak for Too Human, but I know that waiting through the 30 seconds of loading/saving/loading with every Ninja Gaiden 2 death had me screaming "Put me back in coach! I'm ready to play!"

I don't play games to wait for them to let me play again. More specifically, I don't want to play games that make me wait to play.

People complain about seatbelts. Are they bad design?
People complain about freedom of speech. Is that a bad thing?
People complain about gay marriage. Is that wrong?

People complaining about things has never been a good indicator that the things they are complaining about shouldn't exist.

Plenty of people complain about the length of the Lord of the Ring movies but they're still considered excellent.

Maybe it'll convince them to work on their tactics? It can also be seen as a reprieve from an overwhelming onslaught on enemies (provided that's what caused the player to die, rather than just being terrible).

Sharpless puts the point I was trying to make across eloquently, even if a bit harshly. I should fuck off with my logic and try to be even more of a dick. :-)

No, seriously, Anonononomous, your arguments in favour of animated time wasters come across more than a little defensive and out of place. Nobody minds if you like the game (meaning: we all mind and think less of you), but instead of trying to justify obvious flaws, you should emphasise genuine positive aspects instead (which we will then equally dismiss for no apparent reason).