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After a week of binge-eating through our 3 year anniversary Tom, James, and I have been heavily tinkering with Dtoid and Japanator code (yes, cblogs are coming!). I was originally going to bury this post in my personal blog, but nobody else is blogging at 2 AM on the home page so I figured I'd steal a little slice of attention from the editors!  We have a lot of cool things going on behind the scenes, so I figured I'd tell you a little about what's on my plate:

Dtoid does the iPhone dirty

First up, we've created a brand-new version of the site for the iPhone (which should also work with S60 phones, hopefully). If you own a similar device and would like me to display this version of the site instead of lower low-fi Mobile site on it shoot me an email and I'll try to figure it out. Our iPhone site is very much a work in progress, as viewing your blog and community blogs is still a bit wonky. But it's pretty and it works right now!  It even does the rotation thing pretty good.  Give it a go and let us know what you think.  Hit the jump to see what else is in the works!



New console pages

I've always liked how the larger gaming sites have their console areas separated and color-coded with sub-navigation for specific things like "Wii Reviews", so I'm working to bring that to Dtoid (while attempting to not inherit their bloat). Check out this work-in-progress channel page and its accompanying sidebar on the right side:

http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/index-channel.phtml?start=3&t=ps3

Obviously we're a long way from offering a comprehensive database of game data, but at least we're closer to having something that's at least organized in a better, more predictable way. I've attached a sketch of what the final version of this page might look like if I lose enough sleep this week trying to build it! I temporarily set up blog post images to click into these pages to help people find them and evaluate how useful they might be. So far the click activity suggests I didn't stay awake last night until 3 for nothing :) Of course clicks are just clicks. What do you think?

Condensed Mode now sets a cookie, remembers your preference

Did you know you could browse Destructoid in two ways?  Expanded blog mode and Condensed Mode.  If you prefer to view the home page in a summary view instead of a blog, it will remember that as your default state. You can switch back any time. If you leave it will use the last mode you left it on. There's a known bug where it says something like "Bad Mode: Compact" that I think I cleaned up yesterday. If this is still happening to anyone please link me to the page that caused it and I'll take care of it asap.

New tag and headline style

On the home page (in expanded mode) we moved the post tags to the bottom of the post image and put them in a red bar. We hoped to make the site easier to skim through topics. What do you think?




What's next?

Lots! I like to say we have an infinite pile of 5 minute fixes to make, not to mention some cool ideas proposed in our feedback system that we're trying to also engineer (cblog voting chief among them).

Our video section is also just a bunch of links to blog posts, which works, but isn't ideal. We're trying to make that faster using Ajax and possibly a lightbox system. Our galleries and comment-tracking system will also ultimately benefit from building that sort of workflow.

That's all for today! I hope all the changes aren't driving everyone nuts. In my enthusiasm to try and make Dtoid a better site I do tend to make wild design changes now and then, leaving some parts out of sync (poor forums!) and introducing new bugs (half the fun of being a webmaster) but overall I hope you've found the site a little easier to use and more useful since we started three years ago.  It's been an amazing learning experience for me personally -- one certainly made easier with everyone's help and feedback.

Any suggestions? Sound off!

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mr spooky's Avatar
mr spooky at 03/24/2009 01:55
Can I have iphone or ipod touch, please
Necros's Avatar
Necros at 03/24/2009 02:00
Looks cool, but for the love of God, please resolve the picture sizes in the cblogs. There was once a time when your uploaded pictures would come out with a width of 550 pixels when you put in the scale, and then that was suddenly dropped to 420 pixels. Things were smaller, but they at least still fit on the page. Now, all the pictures are 600-something pixels, and they're definitely too wide for the page, cutting off any images that you don't source directly from your gallery. I know you probably have some plans for changing cblog widths, but in the meantime, please let us upload photos with a width of 550 pixels!
Fogo's Avatar
Fogo at 03/24/2009 02:02
The new site interface on the iphone rocks. It's so much easier to access all the parts of the site on the new interface, especially the cblogs
Senryoku's Avatar
Senryoku at 03/24/2009 02:04
I constantly browse the site with my iphone, this new layout kicks ass.
vexed alex's Avatar
vexed alex at 03/24/2009 02:19
Great. Now Jonathan (Aerox) can have one more thing to brag about for his iPhone
Ali D's Avatar
Ali D at 03/24/2009 02:20
I don't have either an i-touch or i-phone, but the website looks great now. The navigation is consistent and it looks really fresh and clean.

thanks Niero!
vexed alex's Avatar
vexed alex at 03/24/2009 02:21
I want to know why sometimes the comments I post don't get published.
Ryfael's Avatar
Ryfael at 03/24/2009 02:26
Android/G1 support like the iphone. Maybe even an app.
Bleach Boy's Avatar
Bleach Boy at 03/24/2009 02:35
The iphone site interface is wonderful. It's so clean and wonderful looking.
Keep up the good work!
Tactix's Avatar
Tactix at 03/24/2009 02:46
Great looking changes! Although I do second what Necros said....on the past couple of posts I've made, the pictures I uploaded looked too big for the post and even like they were blurry...not sure why, but maybe that picture size thing had something to do with it.

Keep up the great work! <3
VIPER88's Avatar
VIPER88 at 03/24/2009 03:17
I don't have an iphone either but overall the main website looks clean and articles are easier to find. Keep up the good work Niero. Dtoid is now my homepage.
Electro Lemon's Avatar
Electro Lemon at 03/24/2009 03:20
The new Destructoid is fucking beautiful.
Justice's Avatar
Justice at 03/24/2009 03:48
What Lemon said.

Also thanks for the iPhone version, and the console specific pages look great!
TheToiletDuck's Avatar
TheToiletDuck at 03/24/2009 04:18
Need to zoom out to 75% on an N95 but i still love it. Fantastic :)
Velt's Avatar
Velt at 03/24/2009 04:21
The site looks great on the iphone, really neat.
Technophile's Avatar
Technophile at 03/24/2009 04:25
I'm still cleaning up misc bugs in the forum skin, but for once now the forums kinda look like the home page :D
Clance's Avatar
Clance at 03/24/2009 04:40
Lovely work, much appreciated.
Sir Unimaginative's Avatar
Sir Unimaginative at 03/24/2009 04:44
Posting from a Nokia E71 here.

The mobile theme is slightly too wide for the browser (in the sense that it causes a lateral scroll bar at 320 wide - the S60 browser won't count the part of the screen under the vertical bar), but it doesn't interfere with readability... except for the text input box being on the same line as the 'enter your comment below' prompt. It's probably fine on a 5th edition phone.

That said, I'm pleasantly surprised by how much of Destructoid's content fits into the mobile site, especially in light of the many sites that don't even try.
Corican's Avatar
Corican at 03/24/2009 05:37
I shall be using this condensed view with my Pandora when I get it.
Looks real good!
Drach's Avatar
Drach at 03/24/2009 05:40
Looks good on the touch =)
garrfunkel's Avatar
garrfunkel at 03/24/2009 05:51
Yay for Iphone site. Cant wait to check it out. This place is really getting so much better so quickly.
Takeshi's Avatar
Takeshi at 03/24/2009 05:59
Sexy!

I only wish that I could see my messages on the front page next to my avatar, just like before.
Slique's Avatar
Slique at 03/24/2009 05:59
Noticed the site upgrade on my iPhone on the other day, and it loads wonderfully faster (and smoother). Although I can't help feel the basic design looks tad too simplistic -- sort've like those old pseudo-web pages phones used to use as an internet attempt a few years ago. But that's probably just me being slightly picky, as I like the look of traditional internet on my iPhone. xD

Console pages look absolutely grand, though.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar
RonBurgandy2010 at 03/24/2009 06:15
The editors better not mind you taking some attention away, because you can always fire them.
wardrox's Avatar
wardrox at 03/24/2009 06:28
Gentlemen, we can rebuild this site. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic ... wait..

Never mind.

All looks rather impressive and although I know I will likely never use 50% of this stuff, it's good to know it's there.
Tubatic's Avatar
Tubatic at 03/24/2009 06:39
New looks are great!

For like a minute, there was a top red bar for images, with the time info. That was hot.
LukienAkeela's Avatar
LukienAkeela at 03/24/2009 06:45
Everything looks good so far. This is definitely the look I was wanting. Can't wait for the cblogs to start looking this way!
Jakysan's Avatar
Jakysan at 03/24/2009 06:50
I saw the "iPhone" version a few days ago, loving it. easy to read, loads fast.. fantastic.
BoBoTheChimp757's Avatar
BoBoTheChimp757 at 03/24/2009 07:04
G1 version s'il vous plaît

Thanks! :)
munkimatt's Avatar
munkimatt at 03/24/2009 07:24
iPhone site works great on Nokia 5800 Xpress Music (S60).
DFS Vegas's Avatar
DFS Vegas at 03/24/2009 07:28
We need this on the G1... Nao...
AgentMOO's Avatar
AgentMOO at 03/24/2009 07:35
Woo, dtoid labs!

SnakeDude4Life's Avatar
SnakeDude4Life at 03/24/2009 07:51
When are the solid gold robots and the invis-a-zombies gonna be ready?
falinter's Avatar
falinter at 03/24/2009 08:05
Lookin awesome, Niero
Kryptinite's Avatar
Kryptinite at 03/24/2009 08:11
When I went to Dtoid on my iPhone a few days ago, I was pleasantly surprised. Great job Niero.
e-roder's Avatar
e-roder at 03/24/2009 08:14
fucking love the new setup, no chance i can get RSS feeds only for certain platforms/news types is there?
jpw21683's Avatar
jpw21683 at 03/24/2009 08:32
Is there a direct link I can bookmark to access the iPhone/mobile site?

I've got a AT&T/HTC Fuze (Windows Mobile 6.1, with Opera Mobile), which does not automatically redirect to the iPhone/mobile site. It loads the full version, which is a bit cumbersome to navigate.
jpw21683's Avatar
jpw21683 at 03/24/2009 08:36
Is there a direct link I can bookmark to get to the iPhone/mobile site?

I've got a AT&T/HTC Fuze (Windows Mobile 6.1, with Opera Mobile), which does not automatically redirect to the iPhone/mobile site. It loads the full version, which is a bit cumbersome to navigate.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Samit Sarkar at 03/24/2009 08:51
@RonBurgandy2010: Quiet, you!
Niero's Avatar
Niero at 03/24/2009 09:13
Thanks, all! I will push the iPhone version to the G1 today, hope it works! I'll also add Fuze and Windows Mobile to the profile.

@ e-roder: yup! here you go:

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Niero/new-destructoid-rss-feeds-faster-console-specific--28099.phtml

I guess I should make that easier to find!
Gyrael's Avatar
Gyrael at 03/24/2009 10:15
Looks pretty awesome.

What's the situation on the forum-frontpage linking?
snotrocket's Avatar
snotrocket at 03/24/2009 10:25
I noticed the funky new change last night on my way home from work. On the iPhone older version, it loaded the page the fastest I've seen on my mobiles and it looked good. Just enough intro to tell me what the story was about and showing the image of the post large enough to understand what it's a picture of helps too.

I would say keep it as is, it loads fast and it's easy on the eyes to look at and read.
Zero Atma's Avatar
Zero Atma at 03/24/2009 11:13
iPhone version is the win
Holyetheline's Avatar
Holyetheline at 03/24/2009 12:31
@Niero

I love the RSS feed
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar
theredpepperofdoom at 03/24/2009 12:34
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

thanks Niero you are the best <3 <3 <3
NihonTiger90's Avatar
NihonTiger90 at 03/24/2009 12:56
The new console page designs look good. Can't wait to see them in full. :D
Chronic Logic's Avatar
Chronic Logic at 03/24/2009 13:11
new outlook for Dtoid on the iphone? NIce.
Tdiddy9182's Avatar
Tdiddy9182 at 03/24/2009 13:48
I hardly get anything on my Sprint Instinct when I go to Destructoid, I just get the article headers
namtastic's Avatar
namtastic at 03/24/2009 17:15
Love the new Toilet Edition. Looks great on my N95 8GB. Is there a direct URL to the mobile version?
Tha Meat's Avatar
Tha Meat at 03/25/2009 06:42
Good Job, been using the new iphone layout for like a week now! Works sooooooooooo much better than the old mobile site! Thanks guys!
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