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These people say that they lose the most sales in the first couple of weeks, so they should have this DRM in there for like two weeks and then patch it out.
It might even stop some pirates from cracking the game since it will be DRM-free in only a few weeks.
If they can cut down piracy in the release window, it might increase sales.
I don't like DRM at all, but if it has to be there, they need to make sure they're not screwing over the legit buyers like they are right here.
It might even stop some pirates from cracking the game since it will be DRM-free in only a few weeks.
If they can cut down piracy in the release window, it might increase sales.
I don't like DRM at all, but if it has to be there, they need to make sure they're not screwing over the legit buyers like they are right here.
Its kind of like games are getting airline "black out" dates only we dont have to earn points. Or is it get to earn points? Either way.
Meanwhile, the pirates playing the game for free are laughing loudly at the morons who paid for a game they can't play. Dear Ubisoft, here's a newsflash for you: people don't like feeling stupid. I promise you, some people who bought your games the first time will seriously consider piracy next time.
It's shit like this that then surprises me when you get CEO's wondering why there's piracy or how to stop it.
Pirated versions will still work though! so if you are one of those who chose not to give ubisoft any money or support, you can still enjoy the games! legit customers: serves you well for giving them money.
..... and this is a good portion of why seeing Ubisoft on a game is a deal breaker. (See: Horrible DRM)
Keep-fighting-the-good-fight-jim.and-yes-i-have-to-use-hyphens.for-some-reason-the-comment-box-doesnt-show-on-new-blackberry-so-i-canjt-see-what-i-type-and-spaces-do-not-show-up.if-anybody-knows-of-a-fix-id-greatly-appreciate-it.
I bought Assassin's Creed in a Steam sale years ago, without realizing it's DRM. I still have yet to play it. But I'm sure that during a summer gaming drought one of these years I'll get the urge to load it up, but the server will be down and my $2.99 I spent on it will have gone to waste...
also in b4 we find out that all their Horrible DRM is to drive PC sales into the toilet so they can have the raw numbers to back them up when they shout to the heavens that the PC is a dead platform.....
That or they legitimately suffer from Chrematophobia.
That or they legitimately suffer from Chrematophobia.
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Well I could play HoMM 6 in offline mode but I stopped playing that game after their DRM kicked me off of the campaign and back to the main menu.
That-does-suck-dude.-you-should-take-it-to-the-phone-store-and-let-them-have-a-look-at-it.-seriously.
These guys should just change their name to Webihard, because they're a bunch of fucking boners.
I guess someone's gotta continuously get it wrong though, otherwise how would anyone else ever look over and think to themselves "god I'm glad I'm not hellbent on fucking myself into a hole."
I guess someone's gotta continuously get it wrong though, otherwise how would anyone else ever look over and think to themselves "god I'm glad I'm not hellbent on fucking myself into a hole."
@DinnertimeNinja
DRM should exist for no longer than it takes the pirates to crack it especially this kind of DRM which requires an internet connection
DRM should exist for no longer than it takes the pirates to crack it especially this kind of DRM which requires an internet connection
I want HoMM 6 but after reading that is has this much suck in the DRM I will be passing, or finding a crack for it then buying it.
Fuck DRM.
Fuck DRM.
What happens when Ubisoft decide a games too old to support, & they want to discontinue server access for it? Are we just renting from games shops now?
Stupid dipsticks.
Stupid dipsticks.
You know, I hope they patch this all out, or this seems like it's legitimately illegal. Fuck EULAs and OH YOU CAN'T SEW US U ACCEPTED TERM LOL, I doubt that'd hold up in court at this point, especially with something like this. Fuck them, fuck this, and fuck publishers.
Splinter Cell Conviction was fantastic. also I am completely against this type of DRM it makes zero sense. Though this reminds me I need to play Driver I loved the Demo.
I understand the argumentagainst DRM, and its a proven detriment to paying customers but why not just FUCKING GO DO SOMETHING ELSE!
Seriously, it's one day... We'll all get through it, I promise.
Seriously, it's one day... We'll all get through it, I promise.
People complained about Stardock, Ubisoft used Stardock.
People said, "Hey, you can trust us" so Ubisoft announces they will go DRM free for one holiday season.
Games that went DRM free had much higher piracy rates than those loaded with Stardock. Including casual piracy increased dramatically and they still connected to Ubi servers in overwhelming numbers.
Ubisoft announces always on DRM and gamers once again complain. Yet the piracy rates went down dramatically while sales actually increased. Despite this, Rayman Origins will be released DRM free.
Gamers claim always on DRM only hurts consumers, piracy offers better version, etc and so forth yet completely ignore the time where Ubisoft unlocked their software and their reward was a MASSIVE uptick in piracy. In other words, Jim, and many like him, completely forget their roles in why this shit exists. DRM sucks, no doubt. But the illusion that people won't steal the game if these companies are "nice" about it is a fabrication. The opposite has been proven true time and time again. So tell you what, every gamer bitching about Ubisoft right now needs to start leaving all their shit unlocked. As in credit card numbers on forums, car doors unlocked, no computer protection, because it IS what we are expecting of Ubisoft and other companies. Of course gamers, especially on PC, can quit being self-entitled thieving fucks. Then MAYBE I could buy a video game in a store without waiting for the stoner with the key to the glass case...
People said, "Hey, you can trust us" so Ubisoft announces they will go DRM free for one holiday season.
Games that went DRM free had much higher piracy rates than those loaded with Stardock. Including casual piracy increased dramatically and they still connected to Ubi servers in overwhelming numbers.
Ubisoft announces always on DRM and gamers once again complain. Yet the piracy rates went down dramatically while sales actually increased. Despite this, Rayman Origins will be released DRM free.
Gamers claim always on DRM only hurts consumers, piracy offers better version, etc and so forth yet completely ignore the time where Ubisoft unlocked their software and their reward was a MASSIVE uptick in piracy. In other words, Jim, and many like him, completely forget their roles in why this shit exists. DRM sucks, no doubt. But the illusion that people won't steal the game if these companies are "nice" about it is a fabrication. The opposite has been proven true time and time again. So tell you what, every gamer bitching about Ubisoft right now needs to start leaving all their shit unlocked. As in credit card numbers on forums, car doors unlocked, no computer protection, because it IS what we are expecting of Ubisoft and other companies. Of course gamers, especially on PC, can quit being self-entitled thieving fucks. Then MAYBE I could buy a video game in a store without waiting for the stoner with the key to the glass case...
@sheppy:
"But the illusion that people won't steal the game if these companies are "nice" about it is a fabrication."
No, you're completely missing the point. First, DRM does not reduce piracy in any meaningful way. Second, people will steal the game REGARDLESS, and DRM only hampers and harms those who buy legit copies.
"But the illusion that people won't steal the game if these companies are "nice" about it is a fabrication."
No, you're completely missing the point. First, DRM does not reduce piracy in any meaningful way. Second, people will steal the game REGARDLESS, and DRM only hampers and harms those who buy legit copies.
@sheppy
I want to see these numbers. Post a link. I don't believe that piracy goes up when drm goes byebye. People who pirate on a ragular basis will pirate with or without the retail copy having drm. On the other hand, people who usually buy retail (or online) are more likely to pirate if they can't play the game they paid money for, even if they pirate a game they already bought. So it seems to me that drm increases piracy.
Between drm for pc and online passes for consoles, the games worth buying are getting hard to find.
I want to see these numbers. Post a link. I don't believe that piracy goes up when drm goes byebye. People who pirate on a ragular basis will pirate with or without the retail copy having drm. On the other hand, people who usually buy retail (or online) are more likely to pirate if they can't play the game they paid money for, even if they pirate a game they already bought. So it seems to me that drm increases piracy.
Between drm for pc and online passes for consoles, the games worth buying are getting hard to find.
@sheppy
..... and the illusion that people won't steal the game if these companies pack them to the brim with DRM is also a fabrication.
All the talk you did about how we should just put our money where out mouths are and leave everything we own unlocked because that is "what we are asking developers to do" .... see the thing is locks only keep honest people honest. If someone really wanted to break into my house or my car or walk off with a stack of games from (insert retailer).... much like DRM a lock isn't going to do a damn thing to stop them.
Since their problem isn't with honest people all DRM does by inconveniencing the hell out of Honest people is cause them to look elsewhere for entertainment. Meaning that DRM is costing companies sales and the more inconvenience it bestows the more Honest people are going to migrate elsewhere. Leaving them with ... well pirates.
But, yeah totally fuck those self-entitled thieving fucks for expecting to be able to play a game they bought...... how fucking dare they....
@ima420r
I wouldn't be surprised if removing DRM caused a spike in piracy much like I wouldn't be surprised that legalizing marijuana would undoubtedly cause a spike in its use (alt. ending prohibition prolly spiked the hell out of alcohol consumption for a time). In each cases it would ramp down and reach a balance, that spike would be considered an aberration unless you specifically wanted to skew some figures.
Tho I would be interested in both the numbers and the games involved as the games are just as important as the numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised if the game that added DRM and supposedly saw increased sales .... come to think of it how do you see increased sales on a new product that has not been sold until that time as there is no baseline to compare it to? were they working off projected piracy and projected sales .... both of which hold little meaning ... so they got closer to their guestimate than they guestimated they would?
..... and the illusion that people won't steal the game if these companies pack them to the brim with DRM is also a fabrication.
All the talk you did about how we should just put our money where out mouths are and leave everything we own unlocked because that is "what we are asking developers to do" .... see the thing is locks only keep honest people honest. If someone really wanted to break into my house or my car or walk off with a stack of games from (insert retailer).... much like DRM a lock isn't going to do a damn thing to stop them.
Since their problem isn't with honest people all DRM does by inconveniencing the hell out of Honest people is cause them to look elsewhere for entertainment. Meaning that DRM is costing companies sales and the more inconvenience it bestows the more Honest people are going to migrate elsewhere. Leaving them with ... well pirates.
But, yeah totally fuck those self-entitled thieving fucks for expecting to be able to play a game they bought...... how fucking dare they....
@ima420r
I wouldn't be surprised if removing DRM caused a spike in piracy much like I wouldn't be surprised that legalizing marijuana would undoubtedly cause a spike in its use (alt. ending prohibition prolly spiked the hell out of alcohol consumption for a time). In each cases it would ramp down and reach a balance, that spike would be considered an aberration unless you specifically wanted to skew some figures.
Tho I would be interested in both the numbers and the games involved as the games are just as important as the numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised if the game that added DRM and supposedly saw increased sales .... come to think of it how do you see increased sales on a new product that has not been sold until that time as there is no baseline to compare it to? were they working off projected piracy and projected sales .... both of which hold little meaning ... so they got closer to their guestimate than they guestimated they would?
@sheepy did u just say that piracy is the reason they keep video games behind a case in the store? Really? So its not physical theft there trying to prevent but piracy? Wow... so does that mean guns get pirated alot too? Cause cases.
If I where to buy one of these ubisoft games I would apply a crack immediately, if only out of principle than again I have no intention to buy these games because I just don't really like them all that much and I won't sponsor this kind of evil so even if I am going to play it I would still just pirate it.
@Sheppy
>Implying there is anything that can be done to ever stop piracy
As far as I'm concerned, video game publishers that have such a big deal with piracy should just close shop and move on. Wait, you don't want to leave behind all that money you make anyway? YOU DON'T SAY.
Protip: If a game cannot be pirated, it does not mean it will be bought. Pirates will just move on and not a single fuck would be given. Pirated copies do not equal lost sales.
>Implying there is anything that can be done to ever stop piracy
As far as I'm concerned, video game publishers that have such a big deal with piracy should just close shop and move on. Wait, you don't want to leave behind all that money you make anyway? YOU DON'T SAY.
Protip: If a game cannot be pirated, it does not mean it will be bought. Pirates will just move on and not a single fuck would be given. Pirated copies do not equal lost sales.
This only affects the people who decided to support ubisoft by purchasing their games. This is what happens if you choose to support a company? They take your money, slap you in your face and then spit in your mouth. Then some pirates walk by and laugh at me for being so fucking stupid as to have bought a game from these people..
This is like people going into a movie theater to watch a movie, you buy your ticket, and then the manager comes over and injects you with AIDS for having supported his business. Then he sees pirates with video cameras who are obviously there to steal the movie, and he waves them through like fucking VIP's. No purchase necessary.
Wow...
This is like people going into a movie theater to watch a movie, you buy your ticket, and then the manager comes over and injects you with AIDS for having supported his business. Then he sees pirates with video cameras who are obviously there to steal the movie, and he waves them through like fucking VIP's. No purchase necessary.
Wow...
I have a fix for the HOMM VI blackout that is quite simple.
Simply uninstall the entire game, then proceed to install HOMM III Complete; problem solved.
Simply uninstall the entire game, then proceed to install HOMM III Complete; problem solved.
The transition should be instantaneous, if they were smart that is.
The new servers should be up and running before the old ones even turn off.
The new servers should be up and running before the old ones even turn off.
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