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Doom 4 won't be a 're-skinned' Rage, says id photo

Rage continues to look terrific, and also continues to be id's main focus, at least in terms of where the studio's marketing muscle is at. Following a few brief statements about Doom 4, which pin it as not a direct sequel to Doom 3 but not a series reboot either, Eurogamer has gotten new info.

id's design director Matt Hooper says the team on Doom 4 is going in its "own direction. They're doing something Doom fans will be happy with. We're separated enough to be able to go our own ways, but still connected where we can help facilitate both those directions."

Continuing, Hooper explains that the game "is distinct enough. It would be dangerous ... We don't want to make a re-skinned Doom [with Rage] and then Doom 4 be a re-skinned Rage. That would be bad."

"It's worked out really nicely where we have enough connection to take advantage of things like technology and talent, but enough separation to be able to go in a unique direction."

Doom fans "will be happy" with Doom 4 [Eurogamer]








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caramelzappa's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 19:40
caramelzappa
I'm more worried about it being Doom 3 in a new engine. As a huge fan of Doom and Doom II, 3 was a huge disappointment.
Wolfy-Boey's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 19:43
Wolfy-Boey
I´ll believe it when I see it. When do we get to see Doom 4 again?
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 19:50
PhilK3nS3bb3n
I liked 3, didn't know it got so much hate (obviously not on this thread, but in other doom 4 discussions I've seen).
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 19:52
PhilK3nS3bb3n
Also, any chance of a new Arena?
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 19:57
Max-
I'm excited for both games, and I trust that id will do just fine game-wise. The thing I'm thinking more about though is how id tech 5's gonna play out, how well is it gonna weigh against unreal engine 3/4? Will id release a dev kit in the same vain as UDK? Will we be seeing a Quake 5 Arena? (read: make arena shooters popular again now!)
Ilostmycookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 19:58
Ilostmycookie
There is going to be a doom 4? ...Wait, why do I even care? The last game sucked and I'll need a lot of convincing to believe that this one won't too.
Kaibun's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:01
Kaibun
With so many similar shooters nowadays, we still won't be able to tell the difference. What was even Doom in first place?
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:03
Cynical Gamer
Dear iD software, please include gibs in Doom 4. The lacy of gibs in your games lately has been disappointing espcially Rage.
HARVESTERFTW's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:04
HARVESTERFTW
I hope it stays in the vein of II, run and gun carnage with no reason to care other than fun. Screw story, there's a couple of bad things and they need a killin', dammit.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:05
Mr Andy Dixon
Doom 3 was great.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:06
Epic-Kx
What HarversterFTW said. Gimmie my shotgun and some steroids and send me to town.

Wait, Steroids? I meant Bezerk.
Goliathvv's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:13
Goliathvv
@Max-
Id stated some time ago that id Tech5 will be avaliable only to studios which belong to Zenimax Media. So I doubt we'll see something similar to UDK coming from id anytime soon...
youngskeletor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:33
youngskeletor
Doom 3 was the shit. Hell was batshit crazy, and at the end where you walk through those last columns and you realize that you've walked right between satan's legs and the motherfucker has a huge rocket launcher arm thing... Yeah. Doom 3 was the shit.

Also flashlight in the dark anyone?
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:40
Epic-Kx
*badass guitar riff*
DOOM.

ITS RELEVANT FOR THIS EXACT MOMENT.
Oven Fries's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:40
Oven Fries
Satan? Wasn't that dude at the end just a Cyber Demon?
youngskeletor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:49
youngskeletor
What the hell ever. The story has always been convoluted and somewhat secondary. All I know was my first thought was "fuuuckyeahhh!! Wait, Is that Tim curry from legend?"
LaMorteSicca's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 20:57
LaMorteSicca
would put money on them going the route of Bulletstorm to sell more copies of their Rage game.
brod's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 21:07
brod
Less brown please.
imDraxx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 21:15
imDraxx
Doom. Best games I've ever played. Looking forward to see how this direction of "not a sequel, and not a reboot at the same time." Either way I'm getting it and will most likely for sure...love it. As with all id games.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 21:25
jawshoeuh
Man i need to play through doom 3. I've never finished it.
Juwaan Armstrong's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 22:02
Juwaan Armstrong
Just include a "Classic Doom" mode.

Also, where's my damned QUAKE 5? I played the shit out of Quake 4's SP.

*Corrections, DOOM and RAGE. All caps.
lastdual's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 22:13
lastdual
Since teaming up with Bethesda, id sounds like they're really on the right track. They're doing what they want to do, and taking the time to do it right. I have little doubt that both Rage and Doom 4 will be quality releases.
Juwaan Armstrong's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 22:22
Juwaan Armstrong
Where are all the overthetop weapons in RAGE.

All I see is pseudo human weapons with stupid names.
That thing, in the screen shot, whatever they call it, is an AK.
Possibly an AKS-74U.
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 22:47
Gaidenrider
CHICK CHICK DOOM
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 22:57
PhilK3nS3bb3n
Gibs ahoy! Extra chewy please.
D-Nez's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/19/2011 23:32
D-Nez
Why the hate for Doom 3? Curious to what it lacked/didn't do as well as Doom 1/2.

I enjoyed it. It didn't revolutionize anything but for me it was more interesting than it's predecessors..
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 00:01
ikiryou
Doom 3 was fine until you ended up in Hell. I enjoyed the demon suprises jumping out at me from dark corners, but once in hell, it became very dull. "Oh look, a floating eyeball demon! *splat-yawn*".
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 02:18
MasterBalls
Okay so;
- Pumping rock music in the background
- A series of complex, varied levels both on Earth and in Hell
- HUGEEE demons. Seriously, I want a Mancubus the size of a skyscraper
- No lame attempts at scary. That's not what Doom's ever been about. By all means make it creepy, but not a Resident Evil game.

Doom practically came up with some of the biggest FPS standards ever, so let's see it invent some more. They could go completely retro and only let us aim left and right.
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 05:34
Max-
@goliathvv - in which case, id have lost out on a lot of potential and so have bethsoft/zenimax when it comes to bringing in revenue from licensing etc. Would've been nice to see another id tech vs. Unreal engine bout but yeah, seems the opportunity's long missed (plus John Carmack's past statements refusing to implement dx10/11 effects...OpenGL may be some hot shit but shit's still weak!)
Noir Trilby's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 07:51
Noir Trilby
@Jim Sterling

No, Doom 4.







KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 09:00
KingSigy
As long as they don't use spawn closets, I'll be fine.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 10:11
amtalx
Monster closets are kind of what Doom does though. I want enemies coming at me from every direction and weapons I don't have tp reload. I like more refined games just as well, but I play Doom to feel like space Rambo.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/20/2011 10:16
mix
Ahhhh I loves me some Doom games.
bluereaper75's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/03/2011 17:30
bluereaper75
Im so ready for Doom 4. If they have good multiplayer, and even a map editor (so it can take me back to the WAD days) then ID better shut up and take my money
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