Surf -- check out Persona 3, seriously. It may not be your thing 100%, but it pushes dungeon crawling forward by leaps and bounds.

60-70 hours of your life, gone they will be!

I hope it's a no-brainer that Atlus will bring this over! (Please...)

Okay, so Atlus can put Persona 4 out on the PS2, even though it's supposedly 1.5 times larger than Persona 3...but Nippon Ichi says they can't put Disgaea 3 on the PS2 because the sprites supposedly take more time to create?

Not saying I'll never buy a PS3 to play Disgaea 3...because I eventually will...I just didn't know 2-D sprites take more processing power than 3-D characters and surroundings.

Ah... Good times!

Is it me or does that main character look like Akihiko with bangs?

@Tragic Hero

Thanks, I'm not big on ham (half jewish) but love me some strip. I'll check it out after I finish the hard to find persisting adventure (my writing class encouraged the use of synonyms), and NMH.

I'm trying this thing where I make myself finish a game before I allow myself to buy another. It's saving me a lot of money.

I still need to get P3 FES when it comes out, so I wonder how long it'll take Atlus to bring the game over here.

God, there's so damned many PS2 and GC games I still need to get. Blasted parents going through a divorce during the best game generation. -_-

awesome. I just hope that they don't simply make the game just like P3 was. that's my biggest concern. P2 was very different from P3; so that's what I want too.

Hope they fix the mistakes of the first one.

I'm glad Atlus decided on the PS2 gamble for Persona 4. Since Atlus are talented, they remind of how Sqaure and Enix once were, making cool games that aren't pretentious, just solid experiences that are unique and well designed.

I think the decision to keep it on PS2 is a smart move, but Atlus should also begin porting the series to Wii and PSP. Persona 3 and 4 would be welcome on 360 too, where there's little rpg competition.

Disgaea is already on PSP and soon to grace DS, so why not back track and also release Persona 1 and 2 on DS and PSP (if they haven't been covered already) too. I'm sure many would love to play them too.

The change to PS2 is probably to keep things cheaper and these rpgs aren't graphic heavy. Disgaea 3 shows that sprites begin to hit their peak in HD. Perhaps Atlus saw this, as well as the high development costs of PS3, and changed their minds. A sensible move. The cheaper the costs, the more different games Atlus can spend money on.

All I need now is Trauma Center 3 on DS with co op play and I'd be in gaming nirvana.

@Cowboy TTop

That would make Atlus a smaller Square Enix.

Milking a franchise by rereleasing them on handhelds and such.

You are forgetting that Persona is also a Franchise. And Atlus is not changing to PS2, but staying where they feel safe.

I don't think they need to push PS3 hardware, but they need to move onto it for future titles, playing it safe will help them for now, but they won't get a full grasp of the PS3 hardware.

And sprites didn't show their peak in Disgaea 3 either. Thats laziness in NIS's pars. Atlus published a sleeper gem called Odin Sphere, which was a fully sprite based game. It showed that 2d sprites can be pushed much farther than any other 2d game that came before it. It pushed the PS2 to its limits, showing slowdown because the hardware couldn't push as hard as the game wanted. As I wrote earlier, the game runs ultra smooth on the PS3, so much so that I think its proper place would have been as a PS3 title.

I am pleased by this news.

RitualNet, if you want the Persona Design Works artbook, which is better than the one sold with Persona in the U.S, follow the link below where you can buy a copy. I have it and its a lovely art book.

http://www.otaku.com/cgi-bin/productlist.asp?catsearch=&sdsearch=Persona+3&x=0&y=0

Otaku have other game art books too. Hey Ritual, you a Linn Kurosawa/AvP arcade fan too? You are in good company then.

In reply on Persona 4 to Animat, I'm aware Persona is a franchise too, I wasn't born yesterday, but thirty years ago (with a lot of gaming knowledge and games thanks). Obviously good product brings acclaim and success, but when a developer is small they pay more attention to the fans. Sometimes I feel this is something I feel Square have forgotten over the years.

What I was trying to say, is that Atlus ofcourse will produce their popular titles, nothing wrong with that. But there's a point where overkill is surpassed and I feel Sqaure have long passed that point with the FF series, so much that I kind of tired of the sight of it now (even if the game are hit and miss). Square forget their other ips like Vagrant Story, a time when they had more variety and diversity. In short they should also pay attention to want gamers want sometimes (Crisis Core/PE3 etc withholded.

On the other side, Atlus, Nippon Ichi, Success Corps etc have always been small in comparison, not as well known but still producing good games that many miss out on. It makes me more glad that Persona 3 really shined because of this fact, making many look at Atlus in a different light.

Hey I miss the days of Square vs Enix, when competition drove the creation of some great games. Its just nice to see Atlus raising their game significantly.

despite it's somewhat repetitive gameplay in the latter 1/3 of the game, P3 beat out BioShock for my GOTY last year. last time i sunk 100+ hours into an RPG was Chrono Trigger - and back then i had a lot less games to play. so P3 did SOMETHING right.

very, very excited for P4. don't really mind that it's on the PS2 as that means we'll see it sooner (FFXIII anybody?) and it'll be at a lower price point ($40-50).

only thing that bothers me is that, while i love LOVE the art style of P3 and now P4, it almost looks like a reskin of P3 to me... oh, and there's only 1 cute girl. NEEDS MORE HOTTIES! where's the Yukari and Mitsuru of the countryside?

Well I would have liked to see this on the PS3 but at least it will save us some money since its a PS2 title

Persona 3 rocked my face off twice. I'll be picking up FES when it hits, without a doubt.

just make the damn thing support P-Scan and widescreen. Persona 3 is damn FUGLY on my new TV.

Nice...I juz start playin P3 and there r already P4 that are about to be released. I hope I don't have to wait too long for the english version to arrive